Using Navigo on Transilien P
 

In Paris now typing on my phone so excuse the brevity.

When using the trains with my Navago card do I swipe the card just like the metro or do I have to still obtain a paper ticket?

This will be in zone five so I shouldn't have to pay anything but I want to know if I need to allow a little more time at the station.

( going from Paris Est to Crecy-la-chapelle this afternoon)

A sander

The Navigo card works the same way anywhere it is valid, you swipe it.

Whether or not you pay anything depends upon your already having a valid zone 1-5 fare loaded onto the card.

Thanks... that answers my question.

I do have a one-week pass loaded onto it for all zones.

For the Transilien trains just get on the train, there is no place to "swipe", or isn't at Gare de Lyon. This from the man at the ticket counter when I had the same question going to Nemours (zone 5) 10 days ago.

There will be at least one post with a purple target on the platform at Crécy, so you are requested to validate your journey. Nothing will happen to you if you don't (and there is little chance of ticket checkers coming through the train anyway), but this helps the transport authorities to know how much a station is used and adjust schedules accordingly.

There is a place to swipe or insert your ticket just like when you enter a metro station in some train stations, before you get onto the quays for your train, as I've done it. There is at Gare de l'Est, for example, which is where I did that to go to zone 5. It appears that is where you are leaving from, also.

If you find the right quay for your train, it is obvious as that point, of course, as you have to do it to get through the gate. That part doesn't take any particular extra time, though, just like in a metro/RER station.

As you will have discovered, there are turnstiles for the suburban trains at Gare de l'Est. In fact, the only station that does not (yet) use turnstiles for the suburban lines is Saint Lazare.

But turnstiles are rare in the SNCF suburban stations, except for the biggest ones like Versailles or La Défense.

There were no turnstiles for my train to Nemours from Gare de Lyon, no barrier of any kind. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding "suburban".

Nemours is a main line train.

I specifically remember swiping my ND card at Gare de Lyon and at Crecy la Chapelle.

With or without turnstiles?

Well, I'm pretty expert at taking suburban trains from all the train stations in Paris except Gare d'Austerlitz. Gare de l'Est does have barriers to pass through and at Gare du Nord there are barriers at the tracks numbered higher than 21. But what you need to look for to validate your navigo pass is this machine in the photo below, and there will be only a few of these spread out along the length of the platforms. Scroll down to where it says Techniques and Fonctionnement and look at the photo that says "Un valideur Navigo sur le réseau Transilien SNCF":

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passe_Navigo

At most of the small train stations way outside of Paris there are no barriers of any kind to pass through so just look for this machine and swipe your pass in front of it before boarding the train.

I frequently take suburban trains from Gare du Nord, Gare de l'Est, Gare de Lyon, Gare Saint-Lazare, Gare Montparnasse and rarely I sometimes arrive at Gare de Bercy. Have yet to use Gare d'Austerlitz. Maybe at Gare Montparnasse there might be barriers but not for the trains I use on the line that serves Versailles to Chartres. To my knowledge it's just Gare de l'Est and tracks numbered higher than 21 at Gare du Nord that have barriers. If you are traveling within zone 5 from a main line train station and have no barriers to pass through (like at Gare de Lyon) then look for the machine in the above photo. Same goes if you are returning from within zone 5 back to Paris and there are no barriers to pass through.

MmePerdu - The man at Gare de Lyon didn't know what he was talking about as these machines are most definitely present at Gare de Lyon and every other train station.

I'm back...

There were, as stated, swiping barriers at G. Est. There was also a swiper (but not a gate) at Esbly (the connection station), as well as one at Crecy.

We remembered at Esbly but forgot at Crecy. I wasn't too worried, because our Navigos had a valid 1-week pass loaded.

There'll be more about our trip to Crecy-la-Chapelle in my trip report...which I will start today.

ssander

<i> I wasn't too worried, because our Navigos had a valid 1-week pass loaded.</i>

I believe that the fine for having a valid pass which is not validated or swiped is only 5€.

Sarastro...

Good to know for the future.

ssander