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Old Oct 3rd, 2016, 03:46 AM
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US citizen moving to Ireland

Hello,
I would like to have some information about moving to Ireland. My boyfriend is an American citizen with Irish roots (Great grandparents). We were considering moving to Ireland for 1-2 years. I am European, so there won’t be any problem for me to work and live there but he’s an non-eu resident, a plumber/carpenter (I’ve seen that it’s included in the ineligible professions).
He’s interested in sound technicians jobs aswell…is there a way for us to move? Even taking advantage of my EU passport?

Thanks!
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Old Oct 3rd, 2016, 06:51 AM
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He can take advantage of your EU passport by marrying you !
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Old Oct 3rd, 2016, 08:44 AM
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Great-Grandparents don't count, he can't get Irish citizenship from that. You have to have at least one grandparent who was born in Ireland.


Why would some boyfriend be able to take advantage of your passport? no, he can't.

I gather you've checked and plumber/carpenter does not qualify for a temporary work visa as a skills category with a shortage (Atypical Working Scheme). Being interested in sound technician jobs is irrelevant, unfortunately, every young guy is (I've known several just myself) because they think it would be cool to just listen to music all the time and get paid for it, but there are many guys in Ireland who want to be one. That is a very difficult and competitive job to get, especially with no skills or credentials.

He'd have to be your spouse or at least civil partner (I don't know anyplace in the US where that is a status, but could be).

Maybe he could move there and not work, if you will support him. I don't know the requirements for that. I bet they are strict as they would suspect he'll try to work illegally, and I'm sure you don't want to support him anyway.
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Old Oct 3rd, 2016, 08:47 AM
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You should post this question on an expat forum.
You may have what you call an EU passport, but that does not exist. A passport from one of the 28 member states of the EU does not automatically give you the rights to move without meeting some criteria laid down.Maybe your answer could be found on any immigration website of the said country.
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Old Oct 3rd, 2016, 10:23 AM
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"A passport from one of the 28 member states of the EU does not automatically give you the rights to move without meeting some criteria laid down"

you sure...?
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Old Oct 3rd, 2016, 10:24 AM
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cause I know a bunch of Italians in the UK and they didn't have any criteria set. In fact freedom of movement is core to the EU treaties
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Old Oct 3rd, 2016, 10:37 AM
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If you've been living together for a couple of years, he can come with you now. Otherwise, get married.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en...y_members.html
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This is not what you asked, but my advice anyway. You would have to be married for him to move there with you. NOT a good reason to get married. You are young, so probably won't think so, but believe me. It is not a good idea! I suggest you go there and get a job. After you are thoroughly settled, let him come for the 90 days allowed and go home. Wait the required three months. Do it twice, and see where things stand then. If it is a good strong relationship, it still will be. Many people are apart for a year or more when one is in the military. Strong relationships survive.

If he can't work, that is also a big problem - for his own feeling of self-worth.

Also, living in Ireland is not always the lovely experience people think it will be. It can be depressing. How much time have you spent there?
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Old Oct 3rd, 2016, 12:03 PM
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Sassafrass as usual has good advice. I live in Europe because I have an Irish passport and own a house in France, and my husband gets to live here with me.

I sure wouldn't get married just to be able to live in Europe, but that is an option.

I'm plenty happy that I have Irish citizenship, but I sure wouldn't want to live there.
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Old Oct 3rd, 2016, 02:19 PM
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Irish citizenship by descent from Irish-born great-grandparent is only possible if their parent had already been placed on Irish Foreign Birth Register prior to their birth. So unless your boyfriend's parent is already an Irish citizen, he won't be eligible. Even if his parent puts their name on Foreign Birth Register, it will only be effective from the date of entry so won't be backdated to benefit your boyfriend (the law changed 30 years ago).
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There is some extraordinary ignorance being shown here about the rights the EU regards as fundamental for citizens of its member states.

1. A citizen of an EU member state (as well as Iceland, Norway and Switzerland) has an absolute right to live and work and receive public social benefits anywhere in the EU on the same basis as a citizen of the country she's in.

2. Such people also have an absolute right to a normal family life, so their children, spouses or civil partners can come as well, with the same rights to work and receive public benefits. If the poster is a citizen of a country with a system of civil partnership, it's just not true that marriage is required for the boyfriend to be allowed to work: a formal civil partnership will also give him that right.

The Irish Republic, of course, is in the Eurozone, so there are next to no jobs going, and there is a local tendency to favour other Irish people in hiring for such jobs as there are. Northern Ireland is now planned to leave the EU by spring 2019, and it's probable citizens of countries other than Ireland and the UK will lose their automatic rights of residence and employment in Northern Ireland at that point. They'll be treated with the same torrent of pointless bureaucracy Canadians have to confront in the United States.
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Old Oct 3rd, 2016, 10:18 PM
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Flanneruk is absolutely correct. I, for one, was mistaken, based on my DD's now outdated experience. Ireland does now have civil partnerships. The rest of my advice stands.
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If your boyfriend qualifies, there is a working holiday agreement between US and Ireland to enable a young person to live and work in each other's country for up to a year.
https://www.dfa.ie/travel/visas/us-i...-arrangements/
There are also other visas he may qualify for, such as internship or summer work travel.
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Old Oct 4th, 2016, 05:41 AM
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He could of course buy citizenship of an EU country (I understand Malta, Cyprus and Portugal are especially cheap) and then do as he wishes.
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If you working then, of course, you have freedom of movement. if you are not moving to work it is very different.
http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Movin...ry_holder.aspx
http://ec.europa.eu/justice/citizen/...e/index_en.htm
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Old Oct 5th, 2016, 03:23 PM
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see http://irelandmoveclub.com/
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