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US Airways Philadelphia to Paris (Europe?)--no more airbus

US Airways Philadelphia to Paris (Europe?)--no more airbus

Old Feb 18th, 2004, 09:02 AM
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US Airways Philadelphia to Paris (Europe?)--no more airbus

I booked a flight to Paris on USAirways for mid-May (early, I know, but I was excited). I received an email today that my itinerary had changed--when I looked I discovered that one of the changes was that they switched the aircraft to Paris from the Airbus 330 to the Boeing 767. This means no individual entertainment systems! I called to find out why, and if it might change, and the customer service rep. told me that US Airways was diverting all the Airbuses to their Caribbean routes. The Paris route, and it sounded like all the European routes, would be using the 767. I'm a bit puzzled by their logic, as these were popular flights and European routes are longer. I'm also disappointed about the entertainment system, as this was one of the reasons we booked the flight. Ah, well.

I thought others might like to know this information...
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Old Feb 18th, 2004, 09:28 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that; those Airbus 330s were pretty nice.

Don't fret too much about the 767s though. If the configuration is the same as we had flying into Paris on an Airbus 330 and out of London on a 767, the legroom was actually more comfortable on the London flight.

Have a great trip (Didn't the airlines used to insist "Getting there is half the fun!"?).
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Old Feb 18th, 2004, 09:36 AM
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Groan. I checked on CLT to LGW and the aircraft is still the A333 with a capacity of 345. But Philly to CDG is shown as you state.
And some of those 767 aircraft have what I would gently term "butt sprung" seats.
In other words, it is worse than the average government office desk chair, which was about the bottom of the barrel in my working career.

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Old Feb 18th, 2004, 09:43 AM
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Hi! From what I gather at the flyertalk board, US actually switches from one 330 flight per day to two 767 flights per day to Paris in the summer (ie, more capacity overall). The 330 is put on the Madrid route, which has a 767 in the winter...

Too bad! The entertainment system on the 330 is excellent!
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Old Feb 18th, 2004, 09:45 AM
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The logic for any airline is how much money a plane can make them. Apparently, Caribbean (or elsewhere) has higher demand than Paris, and the 330 seat more than the 767.
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Old Feb 18th, 2004, 04:54 PM
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I usually fly USAirways but got a better deal on Continental for early March; later learned that Cont. uses 777s which are even "worse" than 767s. Yep, those Airbuses sure were nice. And the non-stop from PIT was a real plus, another loss.

And then I think: if this is all I have to complain about . . .
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Old Feb 18th, 2004, 05:27 PM
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Just when I was ready to cash in my BA miles for a flight later this year so I could be rid of them and their awful customer service.. AND was going back to USAirways because I'd really liked the Airbus Phila-LGW.

Oh well, when I search for cheap flights and am happy to get them, I guess I can't complain too much about the "style" of travel.
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Old Feb 18th, 2004, 05:45 PM
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I live in Georgia. Is Bank of America a little slack on the customer service where you live, too?

The staff members at the Wachovia branch where I have another account greet me like they know who I am even when the don't.

BA staffers greet me like they don't know who I am even when they should.
They must have too many customers.
(I go in one specific branch half a mile from my driveway 90% of the time.)
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Old Feb 19th, 2004, 09:21 AM
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Grandmere,

Why don't you like the 777? It's our favorite configuration--roomier than most others and with that nifty map up on the screen so you can see the route as you fly it. Just curious.
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Old Feb 19th, 2004, 09:43 AM
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Underhill, I hope you are right; I've never flown on one, but I've read that it has the worst pitch of all the transatlantic aircrafts. A 777-200 with a 3-3-3 configuration? It would be a nice surprise to find I'm mistaken!
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It might depend on which airline--we fly American, and the 777 we were on had a very good pitch.
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Old Feb 19th, 2004, 10:15 AM
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I don't like 777s either, it is one of my least favorite aircraft. They are cramped, I don't like the seat setup (on any airline), and their overhead storage seems harder to get at and there is less of it. I just don't like 777s at all. I don't know if the pitch is worse on airlines that have both kinds of aircraft. I think it is on BA, for example, as I deliberately changed flights to get an inch more space on a different aircraft. TAheir 777s are worse than some of their other planes, I think.
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Old Feb 19th, 2004, 10:28 AM
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For a moment there I was feeling better about this flight!
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Old Feb 19th, 2004, 01:51 PM
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I'm flying on a 777 (Continental) in April... it is a 3-3-3 configuration. My strategy is to book the window and the aisle seats. If no one books the middle, fine. But if they do, I'd ask them if they'd like the window instead (hubby needs the aisle).

If you were the 'middle' passenger, would you object to this approach or happily accept it?
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Travelnut - What you describe has happened to me several times and I've always been happy to accept. My wife and I often use the same strategy and we've never had anyone opt to stay in the middle.
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I am with Christina. The 777 as configured by Delta and Air France is the most cramped aircraft I have flown other than a Delta MD-11 from Atlanta to Paris. On the MD-11m one man, about 6 feet 8 inches tall rode standing up by the galley almost the whole way because he literally could not fit in the seat.
I think from fatigue he finally sat on the floor and propped against the wall to get a little sleep.

The flight attendants told him that he had to be buckled in for take off and landing. Somehow he got himself wedged into an aisle seat and extended his legs into the aisle. That way he satisfied the safety requirements.
Good thing he was slender!

After that experience, I quit flying Delta and Air France to Europe.
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