UK Fuel Crisis Deepening by the Hour

Sep 11th, 2000, 08:50 AM
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UK Fuel Crisis Deepening by the Hour

The fuel crisis in the UK is now getting serious. Farmers and truckers protesting at high fuel tax have been blockading the main oil refineries and fuel depots since the weekend, following some of the tactics used by their French counterparts over the last two weeks.

This has resulted in a wave of panic buying today, Monday. Driving from the east Midlands to Portsmouth today, I saw about 50% of petrol stations with no fuel, or very limited stocks. Those still open have huge queues of increasingly concerned motorists. The BBC are reporting the situation will get worse over the next few days.... more reports later.
 
Sep 11th, 2000, 09:51 AM
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I can confirm Local's report. Up here in North Yorkshire, the same thing was happening everywhere...panic petrol buying. MANY MANY stations here have run out of petrol, and lines at the stations that DO have petrol was sometimes a mile or more long. Many stations who still have petrol are rationing their customers to just 10.00 of gas per car. That's a little over 3 gallons per car.

Very tense situation here, although the Prime Minister has vowed not to give in to demands that the petrol taxes be lifted or reduced.
 
Sep 11th, 2000, 01:39 PM
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Problems worsening. Virtually no lead-free petrol left in North West (Liverpool/Manchester), Wales, Cornwall, Devon and Hampshire. Scotland also becoming serious.

Major roads being affected by "go-slow" protests.

Please make yourself aware of these problems if visiting the UK over the coming week - it will affect your travel plans.
 
Sep 11th, 2000, 01:49 PM
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Hello

Very distressing.

Supposed to be going to Devon and Cornwall for a week on the 16th.

Have rented a stunning manor house with 26 close friends, booked it almost 1.5 years ago (it is that popular).

How on earth are we going to get there.

Please dont tell me about the trains as we will need a lot of luggage for this one (dont ask) and it is in the middle of nowhere.

Very Very distressed now.


Kavey
 
Sep 11th, 2000, 02:16 PM
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There has been no effect upon rail services in Britain. These are frequent and efficient. For big luggage loads there are trolleys at Heathrow and at Paddington.

Ben Haines, London

 
Sep 11th, 2000, 02:26 PM
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90% of fuel for Scotland comes from BP's Grangemouth plant near Falkirk where I happen to work. BP announced no more deliveries today, picket line is there, many drivers refusing to refuel - there was no unleaded left in Fife this evening, my pump died on me as I filled up, Edinburgh is on the brink of running out too, a picture painted across the country. BP also announced that any fuel leaving their plant will go to England so looks as if nothing's going to be moving by wednesday. I have enough fuel to get to work for the next 2 days then that's it.

Blair has to capitulate or the government will fall.

If this continues then food will be the next thing to run short, then chaos/anarchy ensues....

anybody got any unleaded?
 
Sep 11th, 2000, 02:33 PM
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News has just come in through Associated Press, that Blair has indeed resigned. The government IS in chaos. Riots have begun in some areas of London and seem to be spreading. News broadcasts are advising to keep all doors and windows locked and a plentiful supply of baked beans for nutritional needs. (and perhaps fuel for emergency services if needed) . I believe that visitors are being adviced to change their travel plans as their safety cannot be guaranteed at this time.
 
Sep 11th, 2000, 04:50 PM
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irons pants is back at the helm, petrol is not available the world is coming to an end and regan is divorcing nancy and trying to unlock the iron. help!
 
Sep 12th, 2000, 01:09 AM
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This morning's newspaper reports nothing about trains nor aviation fuel. It does say that the Queen in Council has given the prime minister emergency powers to take any steps needed, including use of poluce and army, to maintain the running of the country. And, if I may say so, to impose the rule of democracy on selfish interest groups.

I've just phoned British Airways. There is no threat to supply of aviation fuel in Britain. If a pilot can't reach an airport B A will send a bus: their busses are running. They forsee no problem of any kind.

Also rail information. They say they have their own fuel supplies, and are unaffected. For electric lines the generators, too, have their own supplies, and no problems.

Ben Haines, London
 
Sep 12th, 2000, 02:00 AM
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The situation is worst here in the North West - I could not find a station that had unleaded petrol last night or this morning. Some of my colleagues are unable to come in to work & I shall be giving one a lift home this evening as his car is dry. Avoid the North West if possible 'till further notice.
 
Sep 12th, 2000, 04:14 AM
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Here's an update - Public Transport being hit now as well.....

( Pasted in from BBC Website )

Panic buying of fuel continued amid claims that there would be no fuel anywhere in the country within 48 hours.

Emergency services were reaching crisis point with non-emergency operations in many hospitals around Britain being cancelled.

Many ambulances and fire crews have also been put on emergency only duties.

Police entered the campaign for the first time when they moved in to clear a lorry blockade at the Wymondham oil terminal in Norfolk.

Public transport also began to feel the effects of the crisis on Tuesday as South West Trains curtailed its London Waterloo to Paignton, south Devon service and its service from Brighton to Reading service
 
Sep 12th, 2000, 04:15 AM
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OK,

So trains are not affected - nobody on this thread said they were. But there IS a very real problem to anyone travelling by car. The position today is that hire car companies are supplying vehicles with a full tank, but there may be delays at smaller pick-up points while the staff queue to fill up. Heathrow etc should be OK for the time being. The biggest problems for the visitor will be (a) trying to re-fuel and (b) avoiding wild-cat blockages on major routes.

Up to 1/3 of all the petrol stations in the UK now have no fuel. Huge queues this morning on the way to work around the last petrol station in my area with any fuel).

My advice would be to avoid motorways and try and obtain fuel from the out-of-town petrol stations you pass. Also try to use the train for day trips if possible.

Sorry if this sounds alarmist, but if I was visiting a foreign country, I would want to know the real situation on the ground from people who live there.
 
Sep 12th, 2000, 07:40 AM
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Motorists are again demonstrating their lack of maturity & total dependance on the car.
The shortages are caused by panic buying, not by picketing.
I hope this teaches them a lesson.
I expect to be flamed for this "lack of consideration" but frankly most motorists are too self obsessed to listen to reason - they are causing this themselves.
There will be no "chaos/anarchy" as predicted by an earlier poster, as most people in the UK don't drive & do not panic when there is no petrol.
Motorists don't understand this, they think they are in the majority, no matter how often you show them the figures.
If they persist, the gov will be forced to be heavy handed with the blockaders.
I travel a considerable distance to work by train - I chose to live near a station.I can walk to where I can shop.
The shops will be supplied.
Those who make themselves dependant on the car in the UK do so by their own choice.Unless you are a farmer or someone who needs (rather than wants) to live in the country, dependance is a matter of choice.
The UK should take this as a lesson & use railfreight more.The alternative is to put up with the hauliers' greed & the motorists panic.
 
Sep 12th, 2000, 08:53 AM
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Motoring organisation RAC Foundation says it expects the south west of England to run totally dry of fuel by tonight (12 Sep).

Police in Devon and Cornwall are advising motorists to make only necessary journeys as the fuel crisis deepens in the south west of England.

The force is also asking people to consider working from home if they can to conserve petrol and diesel supplies across the two counties.

"They should consider sharing their cars or using public transport if at all possible," said a police spokesman.

In Bristol, many garages are now completely closed and only a handful of petrol stations are continuing to sell unleaded fuel.

Large queues are forming at those with stocks. One line of vehicles is causing heavy congestion on the M32, the main artery into the city from the north.

Bristol City Council has cancelled transport services to eight schools in the city.

Avon ambulance service is continuing to scale down its non-urgent transport service with fuel supplies down to less than two days. But the fire and police services have reported no immediate problems.
 
Sep 12th, 2000, 08:59 AM
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"At the moment all our retailers say they have enough stocks of food to get through to the weekend," a spokesman for the British Retail Consortium said.

"There is plenty of stocks in the shop, but the first to be hit will be chilled and perishable, fresh foods, vegatables, meat and chicken, which are delivered daily or sometimes more than once a day. We will have problems towards the end of the week."

Although stores have not yet reported panic buying they have been busier than normal - with people buying more food - just in case.

"Stores have been busier, people are buying a lot more across the board and when asked why they say because they will not be able jump in the car and go to the supermarket more than once this week."


 
Sep 12th, 2000, 09:00 AM
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Guess who's in the middle of moving house ?

Guess who's going to Japan in 2 weeks ( Where they've just had the worst floods for 100 years.... ) ?

Sigh...........
 
Sep 12th, 2000, 09:02 AM
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I am glad train services are still running, however this wont help me get to our holoday destination which is miles from anywhere in Devon.

I wonder if there are any car trains (you know the ones where you drive the car onto the train) which do London to Devon?

As for food shortages.

Dear Frank.
Maybe I am thick, but you say food stores will be supplied. Most of the shops near me receive their supplies by trucks which need petrol. How will the shops get their supplies when there is no petrol?

I am in two minds, no make that 100 minds, about how I think the govt should proceed.

I dont want them to capitulate as that sends a horrendous message that people can blackmail to bypass democracy, and we will end up with the ridiculous situation in France. But I can also sympathise with truckers etc whose livelehoods depend on fuel.

FOr those of us that just use the car for socialising then we can pay high costs anyway so it isnt an issue.

But on the other hand (i need more hands) people quote congestion as an excuse for high fuel prices, when I think good public transport would be a better way to get people off the roads than high fuel prices...

OK enough verbal wondering...

Kavey
 
Sep 12th, 2000, 09:03 AM
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Yorkshire is expected to run totally dry of all petrol and diesel supplies by tonight, according to the motoring organisation RAC Foundation. The group also says supplies of fuel in the north east England are in a critical state.

Wednesday's go-slow protests will start on the M62 at Ferrybridge services near Pontefract and Woolley Edge near Wakefield at 4pm with hauliers from across the north expected to take part.

The majority of petrol stations between Huddersfield and Leeds are dry and traffic is slowing down at every garage as drivers checked if there was fuel for sale. At the Hartshead Moor Services on the M62 near Bradford, more than 100 cars are queuing back on to the motorway in search of fuel.

In north east England, many garages including larger supermarket filling stations and smaller retailers are either reported to be out of fuel, or with limited or rationed supplies only. Drivers are reporting difficulty finding fuel from Consett in Co Durham to Seahouses and Blyth in Northumberland.
 
Sep 12th, 2000, 10:09 AM
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Frank, if I hadn't panic bought on sunday as you put it, I wouldnt have been able to make it to work today.

Am I showing a lack of maturity? I need a car to get to and from work AND as part of my daily duties - you tell me what to do.
 
Sep 12th, 2000, 10:42 AM
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The lunchtime news on the wireless said that some busses are now not running in Devpn and Cornwall. Otherwise no change from my previous posting.

Ben Haines


 

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