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Turkish Culture Due to History, not Nature

Old Mar 16th, 2020, 03:39 PM
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I'm glad you were feeling well enough to go out exploring.
And I love the remains of the tree.
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Old Mar 18th, 2020, 08:33 AM
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Gorgeous mountains, shame about the eggs!
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Old Mar 25th, 2020, 06:32 AM
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Have been in self quarantine for almost two weeks, the first by spouse decree and second by governmental control due to age, in Iznik
at our gated community, Darka. Darka Evleri ?znik BURSA

Turkey seems to be a late arriver at the pandemic scene, but taking large strides to reach highly miserable levels.

This Summer does not seem to be the time for visiting Turkey.

However, f you are already in Turkey and cannot leave, then Darka is highly recommended. There may still be some rentals available for the Summer. Lots of nicely landscaped grounds to walk, lake, delivery by supermarket and pharmacy plus small grocer within the community. No news of any CV cases in Iznik town as of today, according to doctor and pharmacist neighbors.

The whole travel scene is going to have to gear up for the new world order. Safety now takes new meanings.

Good luck and the best of health to all.
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Old Mar 25th, 2020, 11:52 AM
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Thanks for the update, OC. Do i gather that you are both symptom free? That would be good news indeed. Darka sounds like a good place to be. How are the rest of your family doing?

Few governments are covering themselves in glory IMHO. The UK's government can't decide who it wants to stay at home [on Monday it was everyone except "key workers", now it's just those who can work at home or who aren't working] has woefully insufficient PPE equipment for health workers whether they be doctors or cleaners, and is testing a tiny % of the population, though strangely the Royal Family were tested and Prince Charles is positive. He will be in isolation at Balmoral which I suspect will be a relief to the rest of his family.

You're right that there is going to have to be a lot of rethinking of how we do things, and not just in the travel industry.

Good luck and good health to both of you too.
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Old Mar 25th, 2020, 04:23 PM
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Thanks for letting us know that you are safe, other. Wishing you and yours the best.
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Old Mar 25th, 2020, 11:50 PM
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Ann, thank you for your post. I hope your mother handles her situation well. No symptoms for Eser and I, although both feel like clearing our throats whenever we think of it. Any non-perishable items that are delivered or those bought by Eser at bi-weekly forays into town are kept outside the house for at least three days, their plastic bags immediately discarded and the items usually washed or disinfected before being placed on shelves or cupboards. Perishables even lettuce are washed immediately with soap. We will bring the potatoes and onions in tomorrow. Eser has been painting all our pots in the garden and porch before planting some new plants. It is getting warmer here again but we still use the fireplace a bit in the evenings because we have some chopped wood from pruned pines in the grounds, and it is fun to watch.

I feel very sorry for all the people who are losing jobs, will lose jobs and find a totally new environment when they leave their isolation.

kja, thank you for checking on us. It also allows us to have information about you. The more we hear from friends the better we feel that they are also in good health.

My schoolmate in the same community seems to be in good shape; no more fever. However, I will definitely not get close to him or his wife for at least two more weeks.


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Old Mar 26th, 2020, 05:24 PM
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kja, thank you for checking on us. It also allows us to have information about you. The more we hear from friends the better we feel that they are also in good health.

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Old Mar 27th, 2020, 02:12 PM
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Thanks for thinking of my mum, OC. I don't think that she is managing it too well; she sounds quite lonely which is only to be expected i suppose. I hope that the daily phone calls are helping and she now has a mobile phone as well as her landline so she can make calls to her friends from outside. honestly apart from bringing her here I'm not sure what else. we can do. At least she can go for a walk every day and it's not raining!

It sounds as if you are hunkering down for a long haul.
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Old Mar 28th, 2020, 12:35 AM
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My schoolmate came up with high fever and diarrhea, and so did his wife, a day after he rang us to tell he was fine. Apparently, yesterday morning, the local hospital checked on him and then required them to go to an Istanbul hospital near his home where they could be tested. I am really glad I kept him away from our house and avoided him every time he tried to walk closer to me.

Parks and seaside ( I guess also lake side) promenades are out of bounds in Turkey now. We are lucky because our gated community is not controlled by the municipality. Eser has been walking about five mile every day and I about two miles.

All flights to and from Turkey stopped, after the last one arrived frpm New York two days ago.

There is no mention in the news regarding the situation at Idlib, Northern Syria, where over twenty thousand Turkish soldiers are stationed without the benefit of field hospitals or any kind of military health personnel.

The refugees who had been sent to the noman's land between Turkey and Greece, are now being bused to deportation centers.
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Old Mar 28th, 2020, 04:22 AM
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Your instincts served you well, OC. i suspect that a lot of news will creep under the radar during the next weeks.
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Old Apr 5th, 2020, 05:06 AM
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My friend and his wife have almost recovered and will be sent home in a few days.

Turkey may not have reached a peak yet because number of cases, recoveries and deaths are still increasing.

All above sixties and under twenties are in lockdown in thirty one cities now. We are lucky to be in Iznik although latest news is that there are nine cases in our town, mostly among young hospital workers.

It did not do any good to appeal to the thoghts and compassion of people to recommend they follow common sense in avoiding and fighting the pandemic. Once bans and police control started, they now follow rules and regulations.

Because Eastern Mediterranean cultures love and need authority although they try to bend the rules whenever they can. Authority without responsibility is the most desired state at all levels of all organisations, family upwards.
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Old Apr 8th, 2020, 12:05 PM
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Cases have increased to twenty in Iznik town and neighboring villagesm according to our pharmacist neighbor.

Istanbul is in terrible shape with increasing numbers.

The best case forecast is three months for things to get to somewhat normal in Turkey.

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Old Apr 9th, 2020, 05:02 AM
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Kemal Ataturk was a true hero. When I was in Macedonia I was surprised (and pleased) to find that the museum in Bitola was in a building where he had been a military cadet. One room was set up as a memorial to him.

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