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KidsToLondon Dec 14th, 2004 06:44 AM

Tube strikes for the holidays?
 
London's Underground is experiencing labor problems—that's not news.

But what is news is today's word on what the lastest strikes could be:

• December 24—Piccadilly line only
• December 31—Piccadilly and District lines (impacting planned all-night service through early New Year's Day)
• January 5—Piccadilly and District lines (continuing action possible thereafter)

David White
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Tallulah Dec 14th, 2004 06:53 AM

It won't happen, they just like threatening it because it makes them feel big and powerful. I wouldn't worry too much...

Intrepid1 Dec 14th, 2004 07:22 AM

Is this the same as "We have peace in our time"?????

adamhornets Dec 14th, 2004 07:48 AM

If you arriving or leaving Heathrow on the 24th you should take it seriously as you would have to make alternative plans like the Heathrow Express or an expensive taxi. Keep watching the skies as someone once said!

Tallulah Dec 14th, 2004 08:00 AM

Adam: I wouldn't recommend using the Piccadilly line with luggage anyway; it takes forever (which you don't need after a long flight) and there are too many stairs...

WillTravel Dec 14th, 2004 08:04 AM

I do recommend using the Piccadilly Line, if it's running, because it's the cheapest way and very easy. Of course you should only do this if you have reasonable luggage and fitness, but it's not painful if you meet those two requirements.

ron Dec 14th, 2004 08:11 AM

I too recommend Piccadilly line when it is running. I don't suddenly become feeble of mind and frail of body by sitting on an airplane for 7 hours.

There are other cheap options if the Piccadilly line is not operating. The 285 bus to Feltham train station is one. And I imagine TFL could increase the frequency of bus service to stations like Uxbridge, on the Metropolitan line.

Intrepid1 Dec 14th, 2004 08:45 AM

Tallulah:

Will you be there to schlep my luggage if the strike does happen after all???????

Tallulah Dec 14th, 2004 09:06 AM

Intrepid: I speak only as a person who lives in London and who is bombarded with strike threats throughout the year - they very rarely happen.

Clearly as someone who doesn't live here, however, you are FAR better qualified than I. :-)

janis Dec 14th, 2004 09:19 AM

Tallulah is pretty much right - the unions show lots of bluster but often cancel these strikes. But they still MIGHT stage one or more of these. And you usually wouldn't know for sure until just a few days before arriving. So if anyone is landing at LHR one of those dates - it would be prudent to book a car service NOW. Otherwise, the taxi queues will be huge and the HEX really, really crowded.

rj007 Dec 14th, 2004 08:55 PM

As one who uses the Piccadilly line to take me to my B&B I have to say this is the easiest part of the trip. In fact, it is enjoyable because I'm back in London. Both Tallulah and Janis are correct about the strike threats. In 10 years of regular travel there, I have read about them in the London papers all the time. I have yet to be affected by a strike.

Kayb95 Dec 15th, 2004 07:44 AM

We take the tube to/from Heathrow all the time. Yes, there are some stairs, but we just step aside to wait for the rush of passengers to clear and haul our luggage up the flight of stairs. One minute of physical exertion is worth the cost savings for us. :)

Regarding the tube strike, if planning to use the Piccadilly line those days, check the www.thetube.com website before leaving home to make sure there won't be service disruptions. If there are, have an alternate plan in mind.

adamhornets Dec 16th, 2004 07:20 AM

Or keep looking at this site!

KidsToLondon Dec 17th, 2004 06:29 AM

Latest media report:

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Friday December 17, 02:58 PM

Tube Christmas strike threat grows

LONDON (Reuters) - The threat of wider industrial action on the London Underground over Christmas and the New Year is growing after talks between signal workers and management broke down.

The two sides had tried to resolve a four-year dispute over pay, jobs and hours before the 330 RMT union members voted whether to strike.

The result of the vote will be announced next week and industrial action could be set for New Year's Eve.


Tallulah Dec 17th, 2004 07:34 AM

I'd still put money on it not happening! Greedy s*ds that they are...

adamhornets Dec 18th, 2004 09:21 AM

How much Tallullah?!

BTilke Dec 18th, 2004 09:33 AM

Tallulah, I hope you're right...we have matinee tickets to the Nutcracker on the 24th. However, even the proposed strike is better than service out here in the Maidenhead sticks...NO bus service on the 24th, 25th, 26th, and only limited service on the 27th-30th, then again no service on the 31st, 1st, and 2nd, with regular service not resuming until Jan. 4.

PalQ Dec 21st, 2004 12:59 PM

?

flanneruk Dec 21st, 2004 10:49 PM

If I were Tallulah, I'd change my offer before someone took me up on it.

The threats over New Year's Eve and later are too far off to call. But for Christmas Eve:
Present state is that it looks as if there will be a strike on Dec 24 on the Piccadilly line only.

NOT A COMPLETE STRIKE. It looks like no services eastbound from Kings Cross, and a reduced service between KIngs Cross and Heathrow.

Whether it goes ahead or not, BTilke's ability to get from Paddington to the Coliseum on the Bakerloo Line will be unaffected (and for crying out loud, it's only a half hour, glorious, walk anyway)

Even if she's planning to trek out to the Richmond Theatre, the District Line will NOT be affected by the Christmas Eve strike, though some sloppier reports muddle the now very likely Piccadilly Line strike with a separate threat on the District to strike later.

Incidentally, irritating though strikes are, anyone who's been on the Piccadilly Line on a Christmas Eve knows TFL could put all the day's passengers into a couple of taxis.

BTilke Dec 22nd, 2004 01:44 AM

Excuse me, FlannerUK, I happen to be taking my 77 yo mother, who is recovering from a stroke (and the recent death of my father). For her, the walk might not be so glorious. We will probably take a cab, but a tube strike generally means longer cab lines, so we need to be prepared.
For crying out loud, don't be so presumptuous!

molker Dec 23rd, 2004 03:17 AM

Just reported on Sky News-Union leaders have announced strikes on London Underground on New Years Eve and January 4.
The strikes will start at 12 noon on New Years Eve and finish at noon on New Years Day then again 21:00 on January 3 ending at 21:00 on January 4
Meanwhile , aspecial service will be run on the Piccadilly Line on Christmas Eve because of a strike by members of the drivers union Aslef.

Kate Dec 23rd, 2004 04:39 AM

whoa there - last minute talks take place today at 3pm GMT (1hr 2o mins from now)

adamhornets Dec 23rd, 2004 07:52 AM

Dealine extended for an hour so there is hope that heads will get bashed together. These are about the New Years Eve and Jan 3rd strikes by the signal workers.
The Piccadilly strike (about something else entirely) is still on although LT are saying they WILL run a limited service between Heathrow and Central London with trains every 8 minutes. We shall see.

Good luck evreybody!

KidsToLondon Dec 24th, 2004 08:45 AM

Not sure who won the bet on this, since the Christmas Eve limited strike took place, but the New Years Eve (and subsequent) wider strikes have been called off.

No matter, that is good news for New Year's revelers and others.


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