one more thought...the non-planner NEVER knows what they're missing. I guess that is the beauty.

I, on the other hand, never want to miss anything...

laurela - I love how you said the planning process actually extends your trip from one week to 18 months, true for me as well

gracejoan - I too like to plan and secure the details of housing, transportation and potential activities/restaurants ahead of time and then I can be spontaneous and loosely scheduled while there

adventureseeker - to avoid burnout I let myself go crazy with research at the early stage of planning and then back-off a bit and revisit the information closer to the trip to fill in the blanks and rev up the excitement

Flounder, you're preaching to the choir here. Most everybody on Fodors is there because they like to research. And I do too. But I'm with artsnletters. I don't do daily itineraries. I have a list (sometimes written, sometimes mental) of possibilities. We see how we feel, what the weather is, etc, and decide on the day. (Of course, there are some things that must be reserved ahead of time.)

Count me among those who consider reading and planning to be at least half the fun. It's possible to over-do it, of course. But gaining a better understanding of the place you will be visiting is a very important part of any adventure... and an enriching endeavor in its own right.

I don't do daily itineraries, either, except for the few places where we must have reservations (the Vatican Museums, for example). I try to group possibilities together based on geography, and have copious information on all the possibilities. Yes, I end up having information that we don't need/use, but on the other hand, I also have a lot of information that is hugely helpful.

Sometimes I get burnout, or tired of researching/planning. I tend to go in waves, depending on the time frame and my mood. So I'll do a lot for a couple of weeks, then nothing for a couple of weeks.

And yes, my family makes fun of me for all the planning and research. But they also benefit greatly from my notes and ideas (we came up with some great restaurants on our last trip that we never would have just wandered into). And they mostly recognize that. And at some point in the planning process, when they've had enough, I get limited to 15 minutes a day of talking about "trip stuff."

You know, I NEVER have felt like I know a place already - it's always just a little bit different than I envisioned from reading about it, or pictures I've seen.

when I found fodors I was in the rather less than more camp when it came to planning - I'd know roughly what I wanted to do, but not much more then that.

now I'm a converted planner, much to the disgust of my DH -even though he realises how much more we have seen and how much time [and money] we have saved because of the planning!

I'm not actually sure that you can do "too much" planning, though it has certainly been suggested that i spend too much time doing it - that's another thing of course.

at the moment I'm planning our trip to Rome in February; whenever I'm "caught", my excuse is that I'm practising my italian!

I'm another traveler for whom part of the fun is doing the pre-trip planning -- love the research, drawing up itineraries, determining travel connections on side trips, and such. I say no apologies needed if you love this part of things.

if i am not planning a trip, i am miserable. period...

As some of you have already said - we Fodor's posters are most definitely in the planner's camp!

jetsetj -- absolutely true for me as well (and I'm miserable right now)...:-(

I love my planning! Most of the other travelers I go with are happy to let me do the work, and I enjoy it immensely. What I tend to do is this:

First, set out an itinerary - when, where, and for how long. Moving around? Then I ask each traveler what they really want to see on this trip, and what they would like to see, but not a must. I get everyone's must-see items, and try to get most of the others in, make a 'plan', and send it to them for approval.

Once I've got the basic plan, I start researching each area, finding all the possible interesting spots and things to explore. Abbeys, castles, shopping, folk parks, museums, etc. I keep this list, but realize that I will probably only check out half of them, if that many. We usually decide once we get to the area what we want to do... but we have the list of all the possiblities. We usually ask the locals for advice, as well, as we normally stay at B&Bs.

For the months before the trip, I usually email my traveling companions with tidbits about the trip. I set up the itinerary on a website for their reference, as well as cost estimates, and other details. For instance, we went to Scotland for 3 weeks in 2008. We stayed at 7 different places for 3 nights each. For the 7 months prior to the trip, I would send tidbits about each area (one for each month). November was 'Edinburgh' month, so I sent popular tourist spots, places to eat, museums, history bits, photos of different areas, etc. Same for each subsequent area.

This does several things - lets me plan maniacally, but also helps to inform my travel companions of the area. They don't have to read all the emails, but they are there if they want them.

I love planning trips; it's great fun finding good local restaurants, getting the tips that let us act like locals, knowing that a special museum or attraction is closed on the second Thursday, etc. Planning helps limit disappointments and decide what we think is most important for us to see and do. I do lots of research, but when I leave I try to enjoy the "being" rather than the "doing". The most treasured parts of a trip are often the serendipitous encounters and sights - the wedding party in the square, the child imitating a sculpture, a conversation with a shopkeeper, etc. - that can't be planned. But planning helps put me in a place where the unexpected can happen.

So many of you could be writing about me. I LOVE trip planning, absolutely adore it. I love the first bit of deciding on a country or area then narrowing it down. Then checking things like the weather at that time of year, trawling through Trip Advisor and other sites looking for places we can afford, then mapping it all on Google to make sure the hotel is in a central location. Gosh how we'd all miss the internet if it suddenly disappeared.

When we lived in Australia I'd spend between 6 and 12 months planning a month long trip. When we moved to the UK, about 4 years ago, suddenly I had Europe at the ends of my fingertips - online booking fingertips - and we went a bit crazy because we could. It was all on our doorstep instead of a 24 hour flight away. Just the thought that we could be in Amsterdam or Lisbon or Budapest for a weekend trip blew my mind.

We've done over 60 trips since arriving here, either weekends or a week or sometimes longer. I've had to learn to cope when, instead of having the luxury of 6 months to research, I was cramming it into a few days before we'd be off again. It's tough but someone's got to do it :-)

Kay

Kay, I would be the same way if I were ever able to move to Europe. Growing up in south Florida, where it is a 6 hour drive just to get out of the state, much less country, I was not used to being able to get somewhere quickly. I would go crazy if I lived in Europe, where a 6 hour drive could take you to 4 different countries!

I love planning and dreaming about my next trip.

If I'm traveling with someone else I give them guidebooks and ask them to at least pick their must-see sights. Sometimes they follow thru, sometimes not. It really bugs me when travel buddies don't give me at least an idea of what they want to see and I feel that I have to read their minds. That's why I am now planning my first solo trip. I can plan to my heart's content without having any constraints other than time and money.

Hi GreenDragon, I know just what you mean. In Australia, if I flew in a plane for 4 hours I'd still be in Australia. There are so many different countries within a couple of hours of London, it's fabulous.

Kay

Love planning, especially comparing sites to get the best hotel at the best value. My trips are usually short becasue I don't like to leave my cat for too long (she has a sitter), so I do have to plan rather well.Not minute by minute but if doing day trips like my last trip to Switzerland, which day to which town. don't do well at pre planning restaurants - never seem to make it to the ones i've picked!

I am never so happy as when planning a trip. It really makes it seem close to happening