travel from dublin to paris and paris to london
Mar 23rd, 2015, 10:28 PM
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travel from dublin to paris and paris to london
Hi,
Three adults will be traveling from Dublin to Paris and then after 3 nights on to London. I'm wondering if the value of flying on Ryanair into Beauvais is worth the extra time and hassle of getting to the city center. We have no accommodations yet. Any recommendations? We'd like to do one day trip to a small medieval town nearby. Then we will fly(?) to London for 4 more nights before leaving at Heathrow. Any suggestions about how to travel cheaply but make the most of our time and also accommodations in both cities and a day trip outside Paris and or London? Mostly I'm confused about if it matters which airports we fly in and out of.
Thanks for the help.
Three adults will be traveling from Dublin to Paris and then after 3 nights on to London. I'm wondering if the value of flying on Ryanair into Beauvais is worth the extra time and hassle of getting to the city center. We have no accommodations yet. Any recommendations? We'd like to do one day trip to a small medieval town nearby. Then we will fly(?) to London for 4 more nights before leaving at Heathrow. Any suggestions about how to travel cheaply but make the most of our time and also accommodations in both cities and a day trip outside Paris and or London? Mostly I'm confused about if it matters which airports we fly in and out of.
Thanks for the help.
Mar 23rd, 2015, 10:53 PM
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Ok,, first off ,, if there is any other choice.. even if it means spending an extra 50 euros for the flight, I would not choose Beuavais for such a short visit ( someone coming for a week or longer maybe) . Commuting into Paris from there IS a bit of a hassle.
Secondly in many trips between London an Paris.. I have never flown.. its more expensive and more hassle.
Take the Eurostar.. Book WELL in advance and it can be cheap.( 40-50 euros) from city center to city center ( so no additional cost commuting from airports to cities.. time and money saved)
What is your hotel budget for Paris. I know a cheap, clean and air conditioned hotel in a truly excellent central location. Rooms are tiny and plainly decorated however.
Secondly in many trips between London an Paris.. I have never flown.. its more expensive and more hassle.
Take the Eurostar.. Book WELL in advance and it can be cheap.( 40-50 euros) from city center to city center ( so no additional cost commuting from airports to cities.. time and money saved)
What is your hotel budget for Paris. I know a cheap, clean and air conditioned hotel in a truly excellent central location. Rooms are tiny and plainly decorated however.
Mar 23rd, 2015, 11:03 PM
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You could go Dublin to London by SailRail, an interesting and traditional ferry then train journey in itself. The 08:05 ship connects at Holyhead with a train to London arriving London Euston 16:38. Fare 49 euros, book at http://www.irishferries.com/ie-en/offers/sail-rail
Then London to Paris at www.eurostar.com from £34.50, fare varies like air fares.
That saves back-tracking...
Then London to Paris at www.eurostar.com from £34.50, fare varies like air fares.
That saves back-tracking...
Mar 23rd, 2015, 11:32 PM
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"We'd like to do one day trip to a small medieval town nearby. "
How? Places like Senlis, Chantilly or Amiens (not small, but it's the most spectacular cathedral in that part of France) are at least as easily visited from central Paris as from Beauvais airport. Beauvais-based public transport is mediocre, so you've got to hire a car (which then has to be got rid of) and you're at the mercy of Ryanair timetables if you want to try to do the whole Dublin-Beauvais-Pretty place - Paris caboodle in a day.
The ONLY way it's really possible to do any pleasant sightseeing en route from the British Isles to Paris without overnighting somewhere in the Ile de France is to have your own car, get an early shuttle through the Tunnel, and drive to the attraction concerned fast enough to be there by at least late lunchtime. Even then, you've got to resign yourself to finding somewhere to park overnight in Paris.
From Dublin, it's VERY unlikely the saving on Ryanair (once you've paid to get into Paris, and possibly for your luggage) will be significant compared to the AF or Aer Lingus direct flights to CDG. The time-efficient strategy, though, is ALWAYS to get to Paris as fast as possible (ie to CDG from Dublin or to the Gare du Nord from London), then do any visiting of the countryside around from a Paris base.
Beauvais' one attraction is a cathedral Beauvisiens will tell you was once the world's tallest structure. Too tall to be worth looking at, in my view. For some holidays, though, the town might make a quieter base for a week tootling round the region than Paris.
How? Places like Senlis, Chantilly or Amiens (not small, but it's the most spectacular cathedral in that part of France) are at least as easily visited from central Paris as from Beauvais airport. Beauvais-based public transport is mediocre, so you've got to hire a car (which then has to be got rid of) and you're at the mercy of Ryanair timetables if you want to try to do the whole Dublin-Beauvais-Pretty place - Paris caboodle in a day.
The ONLY way it's really possible to do any pleasant sightseeing en route from the British Isles to Paris without overnighting somewhere in the Ile de France is to have your own car, get an early shuttle through the Tunnel, and drive to the attraction concerned fast enough to be there by at least late lunchtime. Even then, you've got to resign yourself to finding somewhere to park overnight in Paris.
From Dublin, it's VERY unlikely the saving on Ryanair (once you've paid to get into Paris, and possibly for your luggage) will be significant compared to the AF or Aer Lingus direct flights to CDG. The time-efficient strategy, though, is ALWAYS to get to Paris as fast as possible (ie to CDG from Dublin or to the Gare du Nord from London), then do any visiting of the countryside around from a Paris base.
Beauvais' one attraction is a cathedral Beauvisiens will tell you was once the world's tallest structure. Too tall to be worth looking at, in my view. For some holidays, though, the town might make a quieter base for a week tootling round the region than Paris.
Mar 24th, 2015, 06:55 AM
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justineparis, thanks. I was beginning to realize the Beauvais flight wasn't going to be worth the savings. And I had been looking at the Eurostar. I'm traveling with 2 college students so trying to make the plans as affordable for them as possible but not at the expense of being enjoyable.
I guess I'm considering the cost of a hostel vs. a hotel, so maybe our budget would be about $180-200 per night total. We don't mind plain and simple hotels as long as they are clean, safe and in a desirable location. Id be interested in hearing about your hotel recommendation.
flanneruck, I meant that we would be considering a day trip once we were in Paris. The reference to Beauvais was only because I was considering flying into there. I will look into the places that you mentioned. Thanks!
Is there a specific arrondissement we should look into? We would like to picnic on the Eiffel Tower lawn, see Notre Dame, walk along the Seine, and hang out at cafes with many, many silly 'photo shoot' type pictures along the way, I'm sure.
I guess I'm considering the cost of a hostel vs. a hotel, so maybe our budget would be about $180-200 per night total. We don't mind plain and simple hotels as long as they are clean, safe and in a desirable location. Id be interested in hearing about your hotel recommendation.
flanneruck, I meant that we would be considering a day trip once we were in Paris. The reference to Beauvais was only because I was considering flying into there. I will look into the places that you mentioned. Thanks!
Is there a specific arrondissement we should look into? We would like to picnic on the Eiffel Tower lawn, see Notre Dame, walk along the Seine, and hang out at cafes with many, many silly 'photo shoot' type pictures along the way, I'm sure.
Mar 24th, 2015, 07:36 AM
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>>Then we will fly(?) to London for 4 more nights <<
Definitely take the train instead -- when is your trip? Booked in advance the Eurostar won't cost any/much more than flying. And if you fly you have the extra cost/hassle getting out to CDG and in from LHR. The Eurostar is city center to city center - faster/easier/close to the same price as flying.
Definitely take the train instead -- when is your trip? Booked in advance the Eurostar won't cost any/much more than flying. And if you fly you have the extra cost/hassle getting out to CDG and in from LHR. The Eurostar is city center to city center - faster/easier/close to the same price as flying.
Mar 24th, 2015, 08:32 AM
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So I checked in to Eurostar. To save the most we can either spend 4 1/2 days in Paris then 2 1/2 days in London or we can spend basically 2 1/2 days in Paris then 4 1/2 in London. Which would you choose?
The girls are not too in to shopping. They are the romantic type and appreciate beautiful music and hanging out at cafes, not huge history buffs but would like to see castles, cathedrals, palaces and natural beauty. We will have spent a week in Ireland touring Belfast and Dublin and outlying areas and performing in a choir in churches and cathedrals.
I want to make sure they see a medieval town and maybe other small countryside areas.
The girls are not too in to shopping. They are the romantic type and appreciate beautiful music and hanging out at cafes, not huge history buffs but would like to see castles, cathedrals, palaces and natural beauty. We will have spent a week in Ireland touring Belfast and Dublin and outlying areas and performing in a choir in churches and cathedrals.
I want to make sure they see a medieval town and maybe other small countryside areas.
Mar 24th, 2015, 08:38 AM
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My budget pick is the Hotel St Pierre,, its on Rue de Ecole du Medicine, a quiet street, but just off Boulevard St Michel a main street.. 5 minute walk from Seine, Notre Dame, Cluny Museum.. another 15 minutes walk to either Louvre or Orsay ( depends which way you go ) ..
The hotel is right on border between the 5th and 6th, believe its technically in the 6th..Close to RER and Metro lines and stations..
Hotel rooms are clean, have tv and good airconditioning.. but do believe me when I say rooms are VERY small. I would not do a triple room there,, but a double and single room.
However.. for a bit more money I can recommend the Hotel Eugenie.. also in excellent location, 5 minutes from river,, ND etc.. Close to good transport hubs( RER and Metro) ,, and also clean, with good ac( I say that because some places have crappy ac) and this hotel has a mini fridge in room that I have used to stock with my own snacks and juices.. a triple room there would be fine.
For about same I can recommend Hotel Diana.. love this hotel also,, but it drives some folks nuts that they don't do online reservations but thru email.. its family run, clean, and rooms are quite nice for the price.. in the 5th, on quieter street.. but only a block and half from the busy Latin Quarter streets that most folks like to stroll around.
I have stayed at all these hotels.. and a few more .. but these are least expensive of my picks.. and as I said.. I can say they are clean and well run.. just not fancy.
The hotel is right on border between the 5th and 6th, believe its technically in the 6th..Close to RER and Metro lines and stations..
Hotel rooms are clean, have tv and good airconditioning.. but do believe me when I say rooms are VERY small. I would not do a triple room there,, but a double and single room.
However.. for a bit more money I can recommend the Hotel Eugenie.. also in excellent location, 5 minutes from river,, ND etc.. Close to good transport hubs( RER and Metro) ,, and also clean, with good ac( I say that because some places have crappy ac) and this hotel has a mini fridge in room that I have used to stock with my own snacks and juices.. a triple room there would be fine.
For about same I can recommend Hotel Diana.. love this hotel also,, but it drives some folks nuts that they don't do online reservations but thru email.. its family run, clean, and rooms are quite nice for the price.. in the 5th, on quieter street.. but only a block and half from the busy Latin Quarter streets that most folks like to stroll around.
I have stayed at all these hotels.. and a few more .. but these are least expensive of my picks.. and as I said.. I can say they are clean and well run.. just not fancy.
Mar 24th, 2015, 09:29 AM
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Great! Those are excellent suggestions. I'll look into them. Thanks so much.
Any thoughts on more time in Paris vs. London and whether it's a bad idea, as in not safe, to arrive in London around midnight by Eurostar?
Thanks Justineparis
Any thoughts on more time in Paris vs. London and whether it's a bad idea, as in not safe, to arrive in London around midnight by Eurostar?
Thanks Justineparis
Mar 24th, 2015, 10:31 AM
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OK -- Paris is beautiful and lots to see/do. London is HUGE (the largest city in western Europe by far) w/ tons to see/do.
You can see more of Paris in fewer days -- but maybe you want the more time in Paris. That is up to you. They are both amazing - some absolutely LOVE paris, some absolutely LOVE London.
But purely logistics and the number of sites - London takes more time than Paris.
It is fine arriving at any time of day/night.
You can see more of Paris in fewer days -- but maybe you want the more time in Paris. That is up to you. They are both amazing - some absolutely LOVE paris, some absolutely LOVE London.
But purely logistics and the number of sites - London takes more time than Paris.
It is fine arriving at any time of day/night.
Mar 24th, 2015, 05:46 PM
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Ok, it's coming together. So far I have a flight from Dublin to Paris (CDG). Staying 4 nights. I found a place to stay (Residence Sorbonne) in the 5th. It is a 1 bedroom apt, so we will be on our own for food/travel needs. purchased Eurostar tickets arriving late night in London for 3 nights. purchased tickets for Les Mis. Still need accommodations in London and then to figure travel to hotel and Heathrow. Any suggestions for London accommodations? Or can't miss day trips from Paris? Anyone familiar with the Residence Sorbonne? Hoping it was a good choice!!
Thanks for all the feedback. It's getting real!!
Thanks for all the feedback. It's getting real!!
