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Jakartaexpat Dec 7th, 2013 06:32 PM

Travel by train or bus
 
Hi I had posted about our trip to Europe, should we travel by train from Amsterdam to Paris to Tuscany or bus. Just like to have an idea which will be more comfortable and easy,thanks

dulciusexasperis Dec 7th, 2013 07:24 PM

Train.

michelhuebeli Dec 7th, 2013 09:35 PM

There may not be a bus anyway, but even if there is, a train is many times more comfortable - you can stand up stretch, walk around, there is a restaurant car and there is usually a cart with refreshments that comes by on long-distanc trains - no comparison!

See if they evn have the routes you need:

http://www.busabout.com
www.eurolines-travel.com/‎

kja Dec 7th, 2013 09:52 PM

There are no trains in many parts of Croatia.

Jakartaexpat Dec 8th, 2013 12:14 AM

Thanks every one

neckervd Dec 8th, 2013 02:25 AM

For Paris - Tuscany, you may use the night train (beds and couchettes) between Paris and Verona.
Paris dp 19.59 - Verona 7.52/8.50 - Florence ar 10.20

nytraveler Dec 8th, 2013 04:49 AM

Train is much more comfortable and usually much faster. Plus buses often do not duplicate train routes and so you may not have train options for longer trips - except by putting together a number of different shorter haul/local buses.

neckervd Dec 8th, 2013 05:49 AM

There are direct buses from Amsterdam to Paris, from Paris to Turin and Milan and from there to Tuscany, however
http://www.idbus.com/line/amsterdam-paris-bercy
http://www.idbus.com/line/paris-bercy-milan
http://www.idbus.com/line/paris-bercy-turin
https://boa.busbookingline.it/web/eu...89sjfb2ai9v3j6
http://www.sena.it/Autobus/Milano/Si...-234/49-1.html

thursdaysd Dec 8th, 2013 06:29 AM

As nyt says, the train will be more comfortable and faster for Amsterdam to Paris to Italy. For details on routes and how to book see seat61.com.

Man_in_seat_61 Dec 8th, 2013 06:51 AM

Buses are suitable for short distances, trains for long distances.

Amsterdam to Paris by highs-peed Thalys train in 3h10 from €35 www.thalys.com or www.b-europe.com

Paris to Milan by TGV train from €29, www.capitainetrain.com

Milan to Florence from €20 at www.italotreno.it

PalenQ Dec 8th, 2013 07:42 AM

Train for sure - check out Man in seat 61 who posts above his commercial site www.seat61.com for lots of great info on European trains - two other fine sites for planning a rail trip are www.ricksteves.com and www.budgeteuropetravel.com.

Once in Tuscany if you want to visit the iconic Tuscan hill towns then buses are a good option where trains don't go. To save money check out the sites Man in Seat 61 above recommends to score discounted tickets but note that those cheaper discounted tickets are train-specific and cannot generally be refunded or changed and as they are sold in limited numbers must be booked often in stone weeks or months in advance.

michelhuebeli Dec 8th, 2013 09:10 AM

"...There are no trains in many parts of Croatia..." Huh?
The question was "should we travel by train from Amsterdam to Paris to Tuscany or bus."

PalenQ Dec 8th, 2013 09:38 AM

From Italy you can take overnight ferries to Croatia.

kja Dec 8th, 2013 12:22 PM

Whatever the question, the post is tagged for Croatia as well.

kybourbon Dec 8th, 2013 04:23 PM

Where in Tuscany? Budget flights might be a much better option than trains.

justineparis Dec 9th, 2013 06:47 AM

Train, as said, we paid 35 euros for a roughly 3 hour trip from Amsterdam to Paris. Buy ticket well in advance for best prices. . My vacation time is precious.. spending hours and hours more on a bus is not worth saving 10 euros or so.. and trains are comfortable, you can get up and walk around etc.

PalenQ Dec 9th, 2013 10:47 AM

buses just do not run regularly scheduled throughout the day hourly or more connections as do trains - check www.eurolines.com for the pan-European bus service and some even go overnight so you save on a hotel but have to sleep sitting up in a seat next to someone else, etc.

Europe - trains by far better than buses in most countries - the U K and Spain being exceptions in that they do have comprehensive inter-city buses that can be a better deal than trains - though never as comfy IMO as trains where you can get up and walk around, etc.

PalenQ Dec 10th, 2013 11:10 AM

Eurolines buses are I think used mainly buy younger folk so if in your early 20s or so you may find a convivial atmosphere aboard. Trains too however are a favorite with younger folk from all over the world. Great meeting place if traveling solo.

neckervd Dec 11th, 2013 09:36 AM

The fastest buses betwen Amsterdam - Paris - Turin - Milan - Siena have nothing to do with Eurolines, however.
But I agree that trains (Thalys, Thello, TGV, Frecciabianca, Frecciarossa, etc.) are much more comfortable.

PalenQ Dec 17th, 2013 09:46 AM

What are the fastest buses you talk about - what company - just want to know for future info - how can I find info on them.

Thanks


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