Tram 28 safe to travel with kids?

Apr 18th, 2014, 06:17 AM
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Tram 28 safe to travel with kids?

Is Tram 28 safe to travel with kids and stroller/pram?
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Apr 18th, 2014, 06:55 AM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=lisb...=1600&bih=1075

I've ridden it several times and I do not see why not - especially if you board where the tram starts from - boarding a crowded tram....???
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Apr 18th, 2014, 06:58 AM
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WHY would it be unsafe?
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Apr 18th, 2014, 07:01 AM
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WHY would it be unsafe?>

look at the pix of the tram - these are old antique hill-climbing trams - very small compared to modern Lisbon trams - meant to negotiates the notorious hills of the Alfama - I guess you have not been to Lisbon and ridden the famous hill-climbing trams - line 28.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 07:04 AM
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This is our first time to lisbon with 2 small boys aged 3 and 1. I read somewhere that it gets very crowded and was wondering if its doable with boys and the stroller.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 07:04 AM
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Pics look great but do they allow strollers inside it when its not so crowded.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 07:21 AM
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I don't think anyone here will be able to definitely answer that question unless they have been in the exact same situation - unlikely and then if there were a no stroller policy it may be enforced haphazardly I suspect - I would be shocked if any public transport and this is not just a tourist tram would not allow baby prams inside - best to ask the source - Lisbon's public transit operator I guess when you get there or by email.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 07:30 AM
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OK, Pal, so they're old. What does that necessarily have to do with interior safety? You seem to be making quite a few assumptions these days.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 07:31 AM
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I have ridden these trams and they are small and can get very congested - would you want folks standing all around your pram - elbow to elbow - that is the concern. It's not that they are old but they are tiny with relatively few seats. Got it?
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Apr 18th, 2014, 08:09 AM
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It depends.

They reminded me a lot of cable cars in San Francisco, the interior parts, that is. People don't usually hang on the outside unless preparing to alight.

Two well-behaved small boys will not be a problem but a pram will be unless you are speaking of a pair of umbrella strollers that will fold when you are on board.

A big English pram or an American jogging stroller will be pretty useless most places, and side by side strollers will be the worst of all. I don't think they would come close to fitting on a tram or in many stores.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 09:48 AM
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The #28 trams that I've seen needed pushing and shoving to get on them, which I did not bother to do - I walked. Two adults, two very young children, and a stroller all shoving onto the tram - that's a mess waiting to happen. Look at the tram first and then make the decision - it's very simple.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 10:05 AM
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maybe it depends on the day of the week and time - maybe a Sunday afternoon would be more slack.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 10:20 AM
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I've only been on it once, rather late in the day, when it was almost empty. I've read that earlier in the day it's jammed with tourists, so the pram may be a problem. I can't imagine why the children would be a problem.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 10:39 AM
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<< maybe a Sunday afternoon would be more slack >>

That's when I looked at it. After that I looked no more.

What's so special about this tram that everyone is packed into it?
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Apr 18th, 2014, 11:04 AM
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Getting on might be a problem unless you can fold the strollers.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 11:38 AM
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I took the trams in Lisbon and for one of the rides the only place for me to stand was right next to the driver, and the only thing I could hold onto for balance was the fare meter. A small child would have been swamped and I'm not sure I could have held onto a baby and stayed upright around corners. I also would not have been happy to have a small child so close to the windshield.

So the advice to look at how much room there is before boarding is good advice.

I found taxis is Lisbon to be cheap -- and I mean really cheap. The drivers were not speed demons by any means. Sometimes there are rules about small children and car seats when it comes to taxis. Perhaps someone who lives in Lisbon or who has traveled there with small children can tell you if such rules exist for Lisbon taxis.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 11:41 AM
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The taxis are very cheap and prevalent. You only have to wait about 30 seconds after raising your hand for one to stop.

I have the impression that the OP only wanted to take the 28 tram. I think there are buses that are on the same route.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 12:09 PM
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Could be they only want that one tram. I actually find it rather refreshing that someone is asking about the safety of their small children in places they never have been.

The No. 28 zips around tight corners, descends steep inclines and -- like any moving vehichle -- could abruptly hit the brakes for safety reasons. Unsecured small children are at risk of injury in such circumstances, but otherwise should be okay if the parents are seated and have a firm grip on the kids.

I also think it is not unreasonable to wonder about safety (including safety about your belongings) if you have your hands full shepherding small children or are busy folding up strollers on a tram route where pickpockets are known to be active.

Kinda think that's what a travel message forum is for: Getting answers about the details when it comes to travel planning. I'm not sure I would attempt Tram 28 with very small children, unless the first tram I spotted was pretty much empty.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 02:22 PM
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The OP has been asking about staying in the Alfama, which is probably why s/he is now asking about the tram. With very small kids it would be more sensible to stay somewhere flatter and just vist the Alfama.
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Apr 18th, 2014, 03:18 PM
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No it is not a good idea - that is clear for all the reasons above.

Scratch that notion.
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