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pgp4918 Jun 6th, 2017 03:50 PM

Train Route
 
We are spending 10 days between Geneva, Switzerland-Italy-Amsterdam, Netherlands:

1. Leave Geneva, Switzerland to Portofino, Italy
2. Portofino to Tuscany
3. Tuscany to Venice
4. Venice to Amsterdam, Netherlands
5. Amsterdam back to Geneva

We would like to do most of this traveling by train, if possible. The travel from Venice to Amsterdam and from Amsterdam to Geneva are pretty lengthy. Can either of these be traveled by night train. ALL help and suggestions would be wonderful.

janisj Jun 6th, 2017 03:56 PM

That itinerary is insanity in 10 days.

Or - are you just into long distance train rides and don't care about the destinations?

PalenQ Jun 6th, 2017 03:59 PM

The travel from Venice to Amsterdam and from Amsterdam to Geneva are pretty lengthy. Can either of these be traveled by night train>

Not directly-but there are I believe overnight trains between Basel and Zurich - both to Amsterdam

and Venice to Paris just about 3hrs by Thalys train from Amsterdam.

For loads of great info on train check www.seat61.com; www.budgeteuropetravel.com and www.ricksteves.com.

Where in Tuscany? Of course to Florence but also to Siena and some other hill towns (buses pick up the slack so you can get around Tuscany by public transport).

Dukey1 Jun 6th, 2017 03:59 PM

You can fly from Venice to Amsterdam AND Amsterdam back to Geneva using the discount airline Easyjet.

PalenQ Jun 6th, 2017 04:02 PM

On janis'point - If you left Amsterdam out it would be much nicer all in all and if you fly into one place and out of the other so you do not have to backtrack. fly into Milan and out of Venice or Rome.

janisj Jun 6th, 2017 04:18 PM

Even flying will eat up half a day each leg.

frencharmoire Jun 6th, 2017 11:56 PM

Be aware that there is no train station exactly in Portofino, even though there is a station called Santa Margherita Ligure-Portofino. From that station you will need to take a bus, a taxi or a boat to Portofino itself. However, very few people actually stay in Portofino because of the expense & and how tiny the town is. Staying in Santa Margherita Ligure is a good option, or Rapallo or Camogli.

hetismij2 Jun 7th, 2017 12:13 AM

There are no night trains to or from Amsterdam.
Cheap airlines killed night trains.

PalenQ Jun 7th, 2017 10:12 AM

There are no night trains to or from Amsterdam.>

but there are night trains a few hours away from Germany still I believe- like Duisburg or Cologne to Zurich I believe -can never be sure because as hetismij2 says more and more are being scrubbed.

Check www.bahn.de/en to see.

hetismij2 Jun 7th, 2017 10:22 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Night_Line
Austrian rail still runs some sleepers, but not many, and none useful to OP.

PalenQ Jun 8th, 2017 01:47 PM

right no overnight trains useful to OP's schedule - regular night trains that is - there are regular trains sometimes but changes required at odd hours, etc.

PalenQ Jun 8th, 2017 03:30 PM

Amsterdam anyway for a day or so is such a detour -if wanting to do it fly there and home from there. Drop Geneva.

menachem Jun 9th, 2017 08:55 AM

There are almost no overnight services by train left. PalenQ, I wish you'd read up on the current situation before giving your stock advice on train travel. Venice - Amsterdam is just not doable by train within a realistic timeframe. Better to fly.

PalenQ Jun 9th, 2017 11:16 AM

Venice - Amsterdam is just not doable by train within a realistic timeframe. Better to fly.>

Venice to Paris overnight - 3.5 hrs to Amsterdam?

But you're right nearly no night trains - at least not for the OP's plans.

PalenQ Jun 9th, 2017 02:04 PM

To be clear to others the statement nearly no night trains pertains to Amsterdam and Germany - there are plenty still around (but dwindling in number) in other areas of Europe -like UK, Italy, France (though only couchettes and 1st cl seats); eastern Europe.


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