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Train or Drive from Prague/ Cesky Krumlov to Zurich

Old Feb 18th, 2011, 07:29 AM
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Thanks PalenQ ... I am checking with the shuttle service and readin up their reviews .. They claim that thye reach Linz by 10:15 and drop you in front of the main Linz train station..

Will I need a reservation from Linz to Zurich on the train or can we just buy at the station in Linz? Since this will be our first entry outised of Czech, if I have to pre-book, it will have to be done online from the US ...
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Old Feb 18th, 2011, 08:06 AM
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When I was planning our Prague/CK trip a few years ago, there was a trip report from someone who took the Lobo Hotel shuttle. The driver was new, got lost, and arrived several hours late. You might post a seperate thread about the reliability of this shuttle.

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Old Feb 18th, 2011, 08:34 AM
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As I mentioned above, I took the Lobo Shuttle from CK to Linz a few years ago and it worked well for me.
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Old Feb 18th, 2011, 09:20 AM
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To my knowledge no or very few trains in Austria and none in Switzerland (except special tourist trains, require reservations and with a ticket you can always board. If reservations were required on these fairly new Railjet trains then it would come with the ticket - to see which trains require reservations and that means they are capapcity controlled - you cannot board without a ticket with a seat reservation - go to www.bahn.de - the German Railways web site and put in the train you are thinking of - highlight 'details for the above' when the schdule pops up and if it says 'subject to complusory reservation' then it is a capacity-controlled train restricted to folks who have made reservations. (A good way to access the English page of the Wunderbar IMO German www.bahn.de site is to go to www.budgeeuropetravel.com and on their home page click on the link "Best All European online Railway Timetable" (or some such nomenclature) and it brings you to the English schedule page where you put in from (Linz Hbf - or hauptbahnhof, the main station in Linz) and Zurich Hbf and the date and time and you'll get all the trains around that time - anyway I reference this home page link because they also give you several valuable tips for fully using bahn.de that may not be apparent at first glance - like finding out which trains are subject to compulsory reservation or not. For sure the Zurich to Interlaken-Ost, where you change for Lauterbrunnen) does not require reservations nor does the train to Lauterbrunnen.
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Old Feb 18th, 2011, 12:10 PM
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But on trains where reservations are optional (on many Swiss trains they are not even possible, like the train to Lauterbrunnen) you may want to IME if traveling in second class and wishing seats together make a reservation when buying your ticket - seat reservations cost a few euros and then you have a train car number on the paper reservation ticket they give you and you look for that car number on the train car and then once inside the right seat numbers. That said IME of decades of riding Austrian trains I've rarely seen any that are chock full.
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Old Feb 19th, 2011, 06:32 AM
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Thanks joannyc ... Yes, we might use the lobo shuttle..

Thanks PalenQ for all the detailed information ... on the german website we have found the exact train that we need to take at 10:51 PM direct to Zurich, and that one does not need a reservation ... We are just nervous that if the shuttle gets delayed and if we do not have enough time to get a ticket, if we have a ticket ahead of time, we can go straight to the platform .. That is the only reason we are trying to see if we can get a ticket ahead of time ...
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Old Feb 19th, 2011, 08:05 AM
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ÖBB travel portalNews and offers. New for you · Self-service lines · Barrier-free travelling · Ticket purchase channels · Travelling in Austria ...
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Try the Austrian Railways web site above and you may even be able to score discounted online tickets - that said be sure they are changeable - with a full fare ticket I believe it would be valid on any train in case you arrive in Linz later than you think and need to hop a later train - and if all else fails in the U.S. I would heartily recommend the folks at budgeteuropetravel as I mention in the post above about the bahn.de site - I have boughty railpasses from them for years and can attest to their expertise and someone you can talk to (800-441-2387)- RailEurope agent and RE prices but sometimes RE prices can be in the ballpark of what you would pay there - and sometimes however they can be significantly higher so check it all out first. You IMO would have no problem buying that ticket in Linz but the time factor of having to do so could cause you to miss the train perhaps.
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Old Feb 19th, 2011, 09:32 AM
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Thanks PalenQ... this OBB website is very friendly ... We will be taking the Railjet 162 out of Linz ... In the ticket and prices it shows 87 euro or 49 euro with a VorteilSCard ... What is VorteilSCard? We are planning to buy a Swiss Pass, will that help any with this journey from Linz to Zurich?
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Old Feb 19th, 2011, 09:35 AM
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And yes, I will be making a call to the folks at BETS soon to see how they can help with the travel logistics ...
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Old Feb 19th, 2011, 10:31 AM
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Not sure what VorteilSCard is but could be a Senior Pass or some kind of pass that you must buy and could cost maybe more than the 38 euro difference in price if like passes in other countries.

Now with a Swiss Pass you only want to buy a ticket to Buchs, Switzerland, the border station I believe (check bahn.de for the border station on that route - think Buchs - anyway at Buchs your Swiss Pass kicks in and normally you must activate the Swiss Pass at a train station ticket window in Switzerland a caveat for folks coming into Switzerland with a pass already on a train well in that case the conductor is supposed to validate the pass for you onboard - so you do not have to get off - you can check to see if that is still the current info from Byron or whoever answers at BETS to get the definitive current status but I believe that to be the case - not having to get off the train in Switzerland to activate your pass. A ticket Linz to Buchs should be of course much cheaper than one Linz to Zurich. Swiss Pass takes you 100% to Lauterbrunnen - just hop on any train anytime en route.
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Old Feb 20th, 2011, 12:09 PM
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Special cautionary note about the Interlaken-Ost to Lauterbrunnen train - this train - the B O B train or Berner Oberland Bahn I believe splits half-way to Lauterbrunnen, with one half going up a valley to Grindelwald and the other half going up a different valley to Lauterbrunnen. The split is at Zweilutchen (sp?) - and I have often seen when riding this train folks who were started when the front half of the train split and took off towards Grindelwald or Lauterbrunnen and they were left standing at Zweilutchen and figured out they were in the wrong half of the train to get to where they were going. Look for Lauterbrunnen on the train car you board - each car should either have Luaterbrunnen or Grindelwald on it when you board at Interlaken-Ost - again 100% covered bya Swiss Pass so just hop on - trains often are waiting when your mainline train from Zurich/Bern/spiez rolls in.
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Old Feb 20th, 2011, 07:09 PM
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Thanks a lot PalenQ ... You are very helpful!! Ticket till border town Buchs (ticket validation to be confirmed by BETS) and careful of train cars on trains from Interlaken -- Both noted!!
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Old Feb 21st, 2011, 08:08 AM
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Thanks ibhav - and of course in Interlaken you do not want to get off at the first and main station in the town center - Interlaken-West but keep on the train to its terminus at Interlaken-Ost, about a mile after West - where the BOB trains will usually be waiting on an adjacent platform - just follow the crowd off one train and onto the next and then head off into Valhalla Land!
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Old Feb 21st, 2011, 11:36 AM
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Thanks PalenQ ... Can I ask you for a special favor and ask for feedback on my separate post of the itinerary details ... I posted the detailed day by day itinerary and would really appreciate your feedback as you are very knowleadgeable about this area ... Just had to make the special request
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Old Feb 22nd, 2011, 08:27 AM
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vibhav - bien sur - yes of course - I will located it now!

thanks for your kind words.

and in Lauterbrunnen do not miss taking the dramatic aerial cableway up to Grutschalp and the train that rolls along the cliff edge overlooking the Lauterbrunnen Valley far below and the awsome Jungfrau ice=-bopund massif just acorss the valley and then look around Murren, where the train ends and perhaps take one of the Alp's longest aerial cable cars to the Schilthorn, the Piz Gloria of James Bond fame, and back to Murren and the either do an eay ramble down to Gimmelwald, a lost-in-time farming hamlet in simply stunning surroundings or take the aerial cableway there from Murren and from Gimmelwald plunge back down to the Lauterbrunnen Valley at Stechelberg - this cable car really seems to plunge to the valley floor - Nervous Nellies stand in the middle! and at Stechelberg do a gentle few-mile hike along a gurlging boork back to Lauterbrunnen or hop the postal bus there - en route you can visit Trummelbach Falls, a waterfall inside the mountain that is said to be the sole drain of the Jungfrau Massif on this side of the alps - catwalks leads visitors to fantastic views of the torrent inside the rocks! Enjy

and with a Swiss Pass all the transports except Murren to The Schilthorn are 100% covered and Murren to Schiilthorn 50% off! a great value for the pass so if have a flexipass use one of those 100% covered travel days here!
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Old Feb 22nd, 2011, 08:35 AM
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Thanks a lot PalenQ ... I do have a lot of this listed in my itinerary in the other post ... Waiting eagerly for your comments on that one ... Taking note of all that you mention above and making sure that it is included in my itinerary ...

For the Pass, we are planning to get the 15 day swiss pass ... Including the day that we travel from Linz-Zurich-Murren, we will be in Swiss for 10 days ... so taking the 15 days Saver pass for two of us, amounting to 401$ per person, is our best bet ... And from what I have read, our son travels free with us ... WOuld you know if the child travels free on Murren - Schilthorn even though we pay 50% with the pass?
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Old Feb 22nd, 2011, 12:27 PM
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Yes with the Swiss Family Pass that comes free with any adult Swiss Passes kids under 16 - they must be children of the adults - not grandkids, friends, etc - those kids never ever pay one Swiss centime on anything - free on Schilthorn and even Jungfrau if you go there. always free! and with the 15-straight day pass you are covered from get go to get gone - want to drop down to Interlaken, just 20 mins or so from Lauterbrunnen by train, to take a lake boat trip on Lake Thun in the afternoon sun when the Jungfrau Massif, all ice-bound, out in full glory - oh brings back fond memories. Will check your other thread soon.

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