get away from the glue pot PQ - <i>&quot;the sheep dotted hills - the awesome bridge over the river at Newcastle </i>&quot; Did you not read where I said &lt;&lt;You get a bit of nice scenery on the northern 1/3 of the Edinburgh &gt; London route.&gt;&gt; The Newcastle bridge is right there in that northern 1/3 of the journey . . . .

The parts of Kent one rides through is just countryside - not scenic countryside - just general run-of-the-mill countryside. London to Paris by train is a <u>terrififc</u> way to travel -- just don't mislead folks that they will see beautiful scenery.

And you can't be serious that from the Channel to Paris along the Eurostar route is a scenic part of France.

All parts of France IMO are scenic, to me; England no, especially along the rail lines which have an unbelievable amount of ugly detritus along them - yet the countryside the train does go thru is pastoral until just before London. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - and someone's eyes who have never seen the countryside in England or France will enjoy it very much

no not awesomely scenic but scenic in a way to someone never having seen what England or France looks like

what i'm saying is someone never having been there will enjoy the scenes out the window and will go home at least having said yes i know what England and France look like - not so if flying

But Janis is right about perhaps not being scenic in the awesome sense but interesting and very pleasant

I love Eurostar and always use it in preference to flying, even though I'm only 10 mins from Stansted - but then I live in South East England and can get to St Pancras in about 45-50 mins.

I would never recommend it over flying to someone coming down from Scotland - unless you were actually combining it with a citibreak in London or visiting people in the vicinity, which I suspect you aren't OP.

Visit Kent | Official Kent Tourism &amp; Travel Website For Kent Tourists
Kent Tourism Website - The garden of England, English countryside at its best
www.visitkent.co.uk/

Well Janis the Chunnel train slices right thru the heart of Kent, called the 'English countryside at its best' - i guess you are saying then that England as a whole is bland and just not worth the look?

PQ - &quot;<i>Visit Kent | Official Kent Tourism &amp; Travel Website For Kent Tourists Kent Tourism Website - The garden of England, English countryside at its best
www.visitkent.co.uk/</i>&quot;

you have posted the same thing verbatim on other threads. That copy/paste command really works.

Kent is a LARGE county w/ some truly lovely things spread about. However, none of those lovely things happen to be located along the train tracks . . . . .

I enjoyed the Kent scenery of the old (slower) Eurostar route. Now it looks rather similar to the French side. (Not that that's a bad thing.) Partly its the French-style overhead wires that make me feel like I am in France before the tunnel.

As others have said, it's a lot of train in one day. Do a visit to London on the way and the train itinerary makes sense.

Regardless of how scenicx the journey is or is not, it uses up an entire day as opposed to a couple of hours by air - time I'd rather spend IN Paris (rather than viewing the likes of Doncaster).

thanks for all the responses. We have both been to Paris many times and we will be spending ten days there so adding another day in Paris is not the point. I HATE Heathrow but not as much as I hate cheap airlines that nickel and dime you. The whole point was to take the train and avoid the BS of flying. Again, thanks for all the input.

2 out of the 3 airlines which fly this route are traditional full service airlines, BA and Air France.

P.s. 1) Heathrow doesn't come into it - all 3 airlines fly direct from Edinburgh to Paris. 2) Do you hate Heathrow &amp; cheap airlines more than the possibility of standing in a crowded train for 5 hours ?

I am considering taking the Eurostar from Paris to London next year. I too am finding the site a little daunting. So far it keeps telling me that there are no trains within the time frame I have chosen. ie May 21st next year. Am I trying too far in advance? I was under the impression the early bird caught the worm, price wise. Can someone who has tried to do a similar thing please advise.

many thanks, Schnauzer

I suggest you start a separate thread with a more relevant title, schnauzer.

janisj

I chuckled over the sheep-dotted hills and wonder if you have come across
&quot;Balham, gateway to the South&quot;

It's at http://www.balham.com/balhamtv/index.htm

IMHO, the original radio version is much funnier than the video.

Schaunzer - you can not book that far in advance at eurostar.com i believe but not sure

but am sure that in the U.S. you can definitely book nine months in advance and get a great fare as well - esp if you are 60 or over (or under 26) - fares in U.S. indeed can be cheaper than eurostar.com at times so always check both sources IMO.