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nytraveler Jul 26th, 2013 09:50 AM

There are reports that the same engineer posted online previously about how fast he loved to drive and how exciting it was. And he wanted to outrun the police cars.

Assume he will be charged with multiple counts of negligent homicide - and spend rest of life in jail.

But of course that can;t begin to make it up to the families of those lost and those who were injured.

It also makes you wonder what sort of background and psych checks they do on someone running a vehicle like this??/

ribeirasacra Jul 26th, 2013 10:01 AM

Some of those comments/speculation posted here I find offensive to those who were involved some way in this accident. Especially those comments aimed, at those who cannot answer for themselves.
This is not a place for speculation, it is a place for tourist information.

lincasanova Jul 26th, 2013 12:33 PM

The conductor is refusing to declare at police inquiry. I guess he needs to talk to his lawyers first or THINK of something. THIS I just do not understand.. THIS upsets me.

..or maybe that news I just read is false. If it is TRUE.. then I really wonder about it all.
A pity for all.

emily71 Jul 26th, 2013 12:54 PM

I still don't understand why the fail safe failed. I thought most modern trains have something like that. I do wonder if the driver could have been texting. There has been a number of train and subway crashes where drivers have been on their phones & not paying attention.

Just sad. The Renfe has state of the art trains and the safety and promptness of the trains I took in Spain were second to none.

Sadly, an American woman from my area was killed in the crash. Her daughter and husband were injured. They were visiting her son who was studying at a local university. Luckily he wasn't onboard. Just such a tragedy for all involved.

danon Jul 26th, 2013 01:18 PM

I have just read ( in El Pais) what Lin posted about the conductor.
This tragedy reminds me of the Concordia disaster:
.....the person in command " flirting" with danger for his own ego.

BigAleinstein Jul 28th, 2013 06:11 PM

Sunday the driver of the train was charged with 79 counts of homicide by professional recklessness and an undetermined number of counts of causing injury by professional recklessness.

BigAleinstein Jul 30th, 2013 09:46 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013...-.html?hp&_r=0

Sorry, I thought he might be high. He was texting and speeding that led to over 70 deaths.

lincasanova Jul 30th, 2013 10:59 AM

Texting? I have read he was consulting a map or piece of paper while talking to an employee who called him on the work phone in the cabin. But what was he doing several minutes earlier when he was "distracted"?

BigAleinstein Jul 30th, 2013 11:46 AM

Sorry, he was going twice the allowed speed when he was on the phone and shuffling papers.

lincasanova Jul 30th, 2013 01:23 PM

He must have been distracted for quite awhile ... such a shame for all.

BigAleinstein Jul 30th, 2013 02:34 PM

It is a great tragedy.

kimhe Jul 30th, 2013 02:56 PM

It seems to be obvious that the tragedy was caused by a conductor who didn't knew where he were. This has caused many accidents before, both on land and in the air. The problems regarding "Situational awareness" is today on the top of the list of aviation security. Therefore it has been developed routines where both the pilotes double-check and cross-check all travel information simultaniously so to elimainate that the pilot is desorientated. In this case the conductor was on his own and there were no ERTMS security - as in the Alta Velocidad-high speed lines elsewhere in Spain - on this line which would have taken control of the speed. In the last 80 km into Santiago the train from Madrid goes in monotony through some 30 tunnels and over some 30 bridges. The conductor was called up by the railway company a couple of minutes before the disaster about the further trajectory and had his nose in the papers when he realized the coming catastrophe. He only managed to reduce the speed from 192 km/h to 153 km/h when the curve came. His immediate reaction was that of a man in total despair who knew perfectly well what he had caused and who didn't want to live another day.

ribeirasacra Jul 31st, 2013 12:29 AM

You know one should not read the press who translate the news from the Spanish press. There is more to this than is begin reported in the English speaking press is writing about.
The whole of yesterdays front page of my local news paper was full of information about the miss-information that is begin put around. It seems the English speaking press is only interested in adding flames to the miss-information. Also in the Spanish press are asking some thought proving questions, which also do not appear to be reported in the English speaking press.

BigAleinstein Jul 31st, 2013 04:39 AM

Or how about the English translation by the Spanish.

http://elpais.com/elpais/inenglish.html


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