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Macross Dec 23rd, 2017 05:23 AM

Tips on attending concert at Paris Zenith
We bought tickets for a concert in Feb here. The tickets are GA. I read a few reviews but confusing. It mentions tipping the person that shows you to your seat, getting there two hours ahead and being in the middle of nowhere. We don't want to get there two hours ahead and stand in the cold. Thinking maybe we should cab from the 2nd? At least going home late at night. It is located in the 19th. Most reviews were old. Has anyone been of late? This is Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Molly so will be a young and old crowd, maybe just old like ourselves. Thank you in advance for any recent concert tips.

kerouac Dec 23rd, 2017 09:47 PM

Doors generally open one hour before the event. The only real delay is security.

A taxi will not bring you any closer than the metro station at Porte de Pantin, which is <b>not</i> in the middle of nowhere. The Zénith is next to the Cité de la Musique and the Paris Philharmonic, so it is all a major cultural complex.

Southam Dec 24th, 2017 06:04 AM

This site (in French) says doors generally open 90 minutes before the show. Access by #5 Metro line to Porte de Pantin Metro stop, or #7 to Porte de la Villette. That one is a longer walk, 900 metres through the park to the Zenith, while Pantin is 600. Since it is general admission there probably won't be an usher to tip, nor a reason.

Envierges Dec 24th, 2017 09:18 AM

Maybe a silly technicality, but I'd take the Porte de Pantin metro stop. From La Villette one must cross the canal which can be out of the way and not so easy to see at night. If you arrive early, there are cafes on Ave Jean Juares.

fuzzbucket Dec 24th, 2017 09:59 AM

You should tip the "ouvreur" a one euro coin. They expect no less.

And you should not bring any backpacks, etc, which will slow up the Security line.

Macross Dec 24th, 2017 03:31 PM

Thank you all, that answers so many of our questions. Envierges, that is what I had read but was an old yelp review. Porte de Pantin will be our stop then.One euro tip. Just wearing my jacket. Not even bringing a purse.

Nikki Dec 24th, 2017 05:45 PM

I went to a concert here by myself a couple of years ago and was a bit concerned about walking through the park to the Port de Pantin metro stop late at night. It is a bit of a walk but there were about six thousand other people keeping me company, The metro stop is in the closest street location, so a taxi would not avoid the walk.

Belinda Dec 25th, 2017 01:39 AM

How many people would one ouvreur escort? Their pockets must get mighty heavy!

Nikki Dec 25th, 2017 05:05 AM

It’s not just at the Zenith that you tip the ushers. At all non-state sponsored theaters and concert halls they expect a tip. At the state sponsored venues they are not allowed to take them.

Until Kerouac gave me the explanation here a few years ago, I was very confused about when to tip them; I would always seem to be doing the wrong thing. People would either be looking at me expectantly with annoyance or refusing the tip I was trying to hand them.

I have never noticed anyone bent over from the weight of their tips.

xcountry Dec 25th, 2017 05:29 AM

This gives new meaning to “Tips on attending concert at Paris Zenith”

I thought there was no tipping in Europe. Maybe this is a wage.

kerouac Dec 25th, 2017 05:49 AM

I was at a small (private) theatre in Paris the other day which had a very visible notice saying "ushers are paid only through tips" but it was a show without numbered seating and I did not see a single person tipping the girl scanning the tickets, and she did not seem to expect anything anyway, since she was not an usher.

Tipping is slowly but surely fading away in theatres as the older generation of usherettes retires. Theatre-goers have always found tipping completely unpleasant and young ushers find it completely degrading, although there are still a few people who will accept an unpaid job. Interestingly enough, one of the major private theatres of Paris terminated 9 usherettes caught taking tips last year for still accepting them after the theatre had eliminated them and was paying them a salary.

xcountry Dec 25th, 2017 06:53 AM

We were in Amsterdam in 1984 and had read in Let’s Go Europe or something similar that we should tip the theatre usher. The theatre usher (young woman) looked at us like we were nuts.

There should be a Tipping Bible/Quran. Updated daily.

Macross Dec 25th, 2017 01:08 PM

Tips on Zenith. I know Xcounty. I read that and thought this was GA so why do we even need an usher. I don't want to be in the mosh pit so if they would take us to a good seat a tip is well worth it. Thanks Nikki for the info about walking back to metro. We might leave before the last song anyway to escape the crowds and grab a taxi.

kerouac Dec 27th, 2017 01:45 PM

If you leave early, you will be with about 200 other people who have the same idea. If you really want a taxi to go back, wear your running shoes.

1994 Dec 28th, 2017 02:54 AM

Have to agree with Kerouac about leaving early. We did that and it was hopeless finding a taxi. Ended up walking to the metro.

Nikki Dec 28th, 2017 07:51 AM

While you’re trying to flag down a taxi, you’ll be standing right in front of the metro, so it will be easy to change your mind if you need to.

rialtogrl Dec 28th, 2017 08:56 AM

If there are no taxis, try uber.

Macross Dec 28th, 2017 03:45 PM

Thank you all. Just thought 200 leaving early would be easier than 5000 leaving after the concert and all descending on the metro.

Nikki Dec 30th, 2017 04:59 PM

The time I went, the metro wasn’t that crowded. There are enough trains, and I walk pretty slowly, I guess. And not everyone is actually going into the metro, that’s just the way you have to walk to get out of the park.

Macross Mar 1st, 2018 04:49 PM

This was a great concert. We took the metro going and coming. We went through several layers of security including a full body pat down but hey we were safe. I never knew Paris had so many Dropkick Murphys fans. A crazy crowd and we were not the oldest. Glen Matlock opened the show for Flogging Molly. He has to be close to our age. There were no ushers so no tipping. We just sat where we wanted with GA tickets. The biggest crowd was on on the floor so not bad though it was sold out for two nights. Thank you all and what an interesting area.

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