Through Naples to Sorrento or Pompei?
May 29th, 2012, 02:34 AM
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I've written about the Marozzi bus in a couple of other threads and I agree with Peter's suggestion. We took it instead of the train and it was extremely easy...and also very comfy. Book in advance though. We bought the first tickets on our bus early on and the day we went, the bus was full. We brought food with us to eat on the ride, but that wasn't necessary as the bus stopped at an autostop enroute and the food looked wonderful.
I included directions (although not as detailed as Peters above) to the station in a trip report:
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...m#last-comment
It's almost at the end of the report under the heading "July 13 – Pompeii and Naples"
I included directions (although not as detailed as Peters above) to the station in a trip report:
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...m#last-comment
It's almost at the end of the report under the heading "July 13 – Pompeii and Naples"
Jan 15th, 2013, 06:13 AM
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As the photos referenced in this thread's opening post still get a daily stream of "views", New Year seems an opportune time for a further update?
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Maybe the biggest change is the arrival of a serious competitor to Trenitalia on the Rome/Naples rail route - the "Italo" company - who run an equally-fast 70 minute service between the two cities with, sometimes, an earlier departure than the FrecciaRossa. Both companies routinely make a variety of discount and pre-purchase offers, so do make the comparison!
Note that, at the Rome end, Italo use only the Tiburtina station, not Termini (whereas Trenitalia have departures from both) although, for the present at least, they all arrive at Napoli Centrale, within a few platforms of each other.
Timetables for the new service can be found here:
http://www.italotreno.it/SiteCollect...Italotreno.pdf
For a round trip - if not on the same day as one's flying in - I'd recommend pre-buying a cheap ticket for an early fast train down to Naples and, so as to keep some flexibility, only make the return leg purchase once back at Napoli Centrale....
On this busy line departures are very frequent and, in 15 or more years of using it, I don't recollect ever not being able to catch the 'next' one!
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If visiting during the next few days, note that the Circumvesuviana strike planned for this coming Thursday (and other disruptions, likely to affect other lines until Jan 19th) shouldn't affect trains on the route between Naples and Ercolano (for Herculaneum), Pompei Scavi and Sorrento.
And whilst the good news is that fares haven't changed - so tickets from Naples to Pompei still cost only €2.80 - maybe that's part of the reason for the financial difficulties which have led to those engineering and staff difficulties!
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At Napoli Centrale, they've opened a pair of lifts (situated near the main station entrance, and labelled as going down to both the Metropolitana and the CV platforms), however neither was in operation either time we passed by last November - although the up and down escalators were!
If unable to cope with the moving stairways and/or actual stairs, it might be better to go to the nearby Porta Nolana station, the terminus of the CV rail lines, where they've another lift - the keys for which are held by the station staff there.
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Whilst the "PompeiViva" project ended some time ago - with the much-lamented end of its web presence - the location of the various Left Luggage facilities can be seen on the improved maps available from the (Italian-only) official website; each is marked with a yellow symbol that's intended to represent a suitcase!
Pompeii:
http://www.pompeiisites.org/allegati...0515053335.pdf
Herculaneum:
http://www.pompeiisites.org/allegati...0515053426.pdf
Also one for Oplontis (although there's no LLO at that site!)
http://www.pompeiisites.org/allegati...0515053531.pdf
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Peter
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Maybe the biggest change is the arrival of a serious competitor to Trenitalia on the Rome/Naples rail route - the "Italo" company - who run an equally-fast 70 minute service between the two cities with, sometimes, an earlier departure than the FrecciaRossa. Both companies routinely make a variety of discount and pre-purchase offers, so do make the comparison!
Note that, at the Rome end, Italo use only the Tiburtina station, not Termini (whereas Trenitalia have departures from both) although, for the present at least, they all arrive at Napoli Centrale, within a few platforms of each other.
Timetables for the new service can be found here:
http://www.italotreno.it/SiteCollect...Italotreno.pdf
For a round trip - if not on the same day as one's flying in - I'd recommend pre-buying a cheap ticket for an early fast train down to Naples and, so as to keep some flexibility, only make the return leg purchase once back at Napoli Centrale....
On this busy line departures are very frequent and, in 15 or more years of using it, I don't recollect ever not being able to catch the 'next' one!
........................
If visiting during the next few days, note that the Circumvesuviana strike planned for this coming Thursday (and other disruptions, likely to affect other lines until Jan 19th) shouldn't affect trains on the route between Naples and Ercolano (for Herculaneum), Pompei Scavi and Sorrento.
And whilst the good news is that fares haven't changed - so tickets from Naples to Pompei still cost only €2.80 - maybe that's part of the reason for the financial difficulties which have led to those engineering and staff difficulties!
........................
At Napoli Centrale, they've opened a pair of lifts (situated near the main station entrance, and labelled as going down to both the Metropolitana and the CV platforms), however neither was in operation either time we passed by last November - although the up and down escalators were!
If unable to cope with the moving stairways and/or actual stairs, it might be better to go to the nearby Porta Nolana station, the terminus of the CV rail lines, where they've another lift - the keys for which are held by the station staff there.
........................
Whilst the "PompeiViva" project ended some time ago - with the much-lamented end of its web presence - the location of the various Left Luggage facilities can be seen on the improved maps available from the (Italian-only) official website; each is marked with a yellow symbol that's intended to represent a suitcase!
Pompeii:
http://www.pompeiisites.org/allegati...0515053335.pdf
Herculaneum:
http://www.pompeiisites.org/allegati...0515053426.pdf
Also one for Oplontis (although there's no LLO at that site!)
http://www.pompeiisites.org/allegati...0515053531.pdf
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Peter
Jan 18th, 2013, 11:15 PM
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One addition to the above...
When seeking "News" of disruptions/changes to the Circumvesuviana service, note that they tend to post such stuff only on their Italian webpages.
Past experience has shown that even plans for foreseeable breaks such as Easter and Xmas don't appear until just a few days before time - so try to check here shortly prior to travelling...
http://www.vesuviana.com/web/it/news
.... and ask if uncertain whether any of the published items might affect your journey!
Peter
When seeking "News" of disruptions/changes to the Circumvesuviana service, note that they tend to post such stuff only on their Italian webpages.
Past experience has shown that even plans for foreseeable breaks such as Easter and Xmas don't appear until just a few days before time - so try to check here shortly prior to travelling...
http://www.vesuviana.com/web/it/news
.... and ask if uncertain whether any of the published items might affect your journey!
Peter
Jan 22nd, 2013, 03:00 AM
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Whilst on this this theme, something that may be of assistance if using Termini and/or Napoli Centrale....
From the GrandStazioni company, an offshoot of Trenitalia that runs 13 of Italy's largest rail stations, recently-improved websites for their main operations:
Termini: http://www.romatermini.com/en/
Select the "Info" section for travel stuff, as much of the site's dedicated to promoting the various retail opportunities!
Under that heading they've maps too, although those don't also include the associated Metro lines etc - but, for instance, for the layout of platforms etc on the ground floor, select "Piano Binari" from the dropdown list here:
http://www.romatermini.com/en/map/
(A quick look at that will also show how much more convenient the Fiumicino airport's Leonardo Express service is, now that it's changed to platforms 23/24 - rather than the outlying pair 25/26 ?)
A similar site for Napoli Centrale: http://www.napolicentrale.it/en/home
Maps http://www.napolicentrale.it/en/map/
(The Frecciarossas have a dedicated area there, positioned centrally, near platforms 13/18 - whereas 'ItaloTreno' services [sometimes coded NTV on departure boards] are generally be over towards platform 24)
At present the Italian versions of both sites appear to be getting more input, but hopefully the English ones will improve with the approach of the main visitor season?
Peter
From the GrandStazioni company, an offshoot of Trenitalia that runs 13 of Italy's largest rail stations, recently-improved websites for their main operations:
Termini: http://www.romatermini.com/en/
Select the "Info" section for travel stuff, as much of the site's dedicated to promoting the various retail opportunities!
Under that heading they've maps too, although those don't also include the associated Metro lines etc - but, for instance, for the layout of platforms etc on the ground floor, select "Piano Binari" from the dropdown list here:
http://www.romatermini.com/en/map/
(A quick look at that will also show how much more convenient the Fiumicino airport's Leonardo Express service is, now that it's changed to platforms 23/24 - rather than the outlying pair 25/26 ?)
A similar site for Napoli Centrale: http://www.napolicentrale.it/en/home
Maps http://www.napolicentrale.it/en/map/
(The Frecciarossas have a dedicated area there, positioned centrally, near platforms 13/18 - whereas 'ItaloTreno' services [sometimes coded NTV on departure boards] are generally be over towards platform 24)
At present the Italian versions of both sites appear to be getting more input, but hopefully the English ones will improve with the approach of the main visitor season?
Peter
Feb 23rd, 2013, 09:27 PM
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With Easter only a month or so away, a reminder for those who will be here that the Circumvesuviana usually observes the Sunday holiday!
First trains that day around 8AM, with the last setting off around lunchtime, 12:30 or so!
Then, on Easter Monday, they often add a few to the schedule - mostly on the Naples / Pompei / Sorrento line...
Peter
First trains that day around 8AM, with the last setting off around lunchtime, 12:30 or so!
Then, on Easter Monday, they often add a few to the schedule - mostly on the Naples / Pompei / Sorrento line...
Peter
Apr 26th, 2013, 10:54 PM
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Following the expansion of the EAV group... as of this month the place to look for timetables for the Circumvesuviana (and also several other local rail lines, not part of the Trenitalia system) is now...
http://www.eavcampania.it/web/node/95
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http://www.eavcampania.it/web/node/95
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May 22nd, 2013, 09:47 AM
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Just in case it's not been mentioned above, the LLO at Napoli Centrale appears to have new opening hours - with an earlier evening closure - after having been taken over by KiPoint.
For details, see:
http://www.napolicentrale.it/en/serv...l/left-luggage
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For details, see:
http://www.napolicentrale.it/en/serv...l/left-luggage
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May 22nd, 2013, 12:41 PM
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Requested clarification, please.
Planning trip to Pompeii perhaps this Sunday, May 26th. Do I book all the way through to Pompeii from Roma Termini on the Trenitalia site? Or do I just book to Napoli Centrale and buy tickets on the CV when we get there?
Thanks for clarifying!
Planning trip to Pompeii perhaps this Sunday, May 26th. Do I book all the way through to Pompeii from Roma Termini on the Trenitalia site? Or do I just book to Napoli Centrale and buy tickets on the CV when we get there?
Thanks for clarifying!
May 22nd, 2013, 12:53 PM
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You cannot book to Sorrento on trenitalia since that line is not a part of the Italian State Railways but a separate entity called the CircumVesuviana train line - so you have to buy a ticket once at the CircumVesuviana station - adjacent to Napole Centrale - in the new (in 10/10) ticket window A Brit in sichia describes in his original post.
The ticket to Sorrento or Ponpeii is all of 3 euros or less I believe - chump change - no seat reservations, single class. You get a great view of Mt Vesuvius as the train trundles by its base.
The ticket to Sorrento or Ponpeii is all of 3 euros or less I believe - chump change - no seat reservations, single class. You get a great view of Mt Vesuvius as the train trundles by its base.
May 22nd, 2013, 06:11 PM
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>>> so you have to buy a ticket once at the CircumVesuviana station - adjacent to Napole Centrale -<<<
Downstairs. The Circumvesuviana is the lower level and Pompeii Scavi is the stop you want on the Naples/Sorrento train.
Be sure to check the Italorail if no discount tickets are left on Trenitalia for Rome/Naples. Italorail departs Rome Tiburtina to Naples and tends to have discounts available even when Trenitalia doesn't.
http://www.italotreno.it/en/Pages/default.aspx
Downstairs. The Circumvesuviana is the lower level and Pompeii Scavi is the stop you want on the Naples/Sorrento train.
Be sure to check the Italorail if no discount tickets are left on Trenitalia for Rome/Naples. Italorail departs Rome Tiburtina to Naples and tends to have discounts available even when Trenitalia doesn't.
http://www.italotreno.it/en/Pages/default.aspx
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Sarge, now you're no longer a tourist...
If happier doing so, and coming from beyond Campania's borders, you could indeed book tickets through to the Trenitalia station in Pompei - from where it's then a slightly longer walk to the site... but with the reward of arriving at its Piazza Anfiteatro entrance, which is likely to be much quieter than the more-frequented one adjacent to the CV's "Pompei Scavi" station.
You'd arrive on the line - and at the station - coloured red on this map of the town...
http://www.unicocampania.it/files/mappe/pompei.pdf
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However if this is to be a daytrip from Rome, and you're OK with buying your tickets now, here's what I'd do - given that TI's services for early morning weekend travel down aren't as good as those of Italo Treno!
1 - Train from your Trastevere station over to Roma Tiburtina.
2 - Italo Treno fast train to Napoli Centrale at 07:57 or 08:57 (each, 68 minutes travel time) - with tickets still available on either at only €20.
Bookings:
http://www.italotreno.it/EN/Pages/default.aspx
Current timetable - a fairly simple 2 page affair:
http://www.italotreno.it/SiteCollect...iugno_2013.pdf
(Your choice of how to get back, remembering of course that all those discount schemes are more or less non-transferable - so be sure not to miss whichever train you're booked on! Or maybe opt for one of the infrequent and slower Regionale services, at only €11.20... and have a snooze, and some sightseeing?)
3 - either the CV (as per the main drift of this thread) or, if you'd prefer the Piazza Anfiteatro route, for train times use the TI site:
http://www.trenitalia.com/cms/v/inde...0080a3e90aRCRD
... asking for those from "Napoli P.Za Garibaldi" to Pompei - you'd catch those shown as a "Metropolitana" from their platforms, just ONE level below ground... and I see, for example, train 21307 - which sets off at 09:30, to arrive at the "red" Pompei station at 10:06.
(If using the tutte le stazione option, there are also "Regionale" services, which set off from the ground level platforms - but very few of those run on Sundays!)
If coming down on an IT train, buy your Naples/Pompei tickets once in Naples - from any kiosk, news stand etc that you see at the station displaying the UnicoCampania logo... Zone U3, in its weekend allday version €4.60...
http://www.unicocampania.it/index.ph...ietti&action=1
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OK with all that?
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If happier doing so, and coming from beyond Campania's borders, you could indeed book tickets through to the Trenitalia station in Pompei - from where it's then a slightly longer walk to the site... but with the reward of arriving at its Piazza Anfiteatro entrance, which is likely to be much quieter than the more-frequented one adjacent to the CV's "Pompei Scavi" station.
You'd arrive on the line - and at the station - coloured red on this map of the town...
http://www.unicocampania.it/files/mappe/pompei.pdf
......................
However if this is to be a daytrip from Rome, and you're OK with buying your tickets now, here's what I'd do - given that TI's services for early morning weekend travel down aren't as good as those of Italo Treno!
1 - Train from your Trastevere station over to Roma Tiburtina.
2 - Italo Treno fast train to Napoli Centrale at 07:57 or 08:57 (each, 68 minutes travel time) - with tickets still available on either at only €20.
Bookings:
http://www.italotreno.it/EN/Pages/default.aspx
Current timetable - a fairly simple 2 page affair:
http://www.italotreno.it/SiteCollect...iugno_2013.pdf
(Your choice of how to get back, remembering of course that all those discount schemes are more or less non-transferable - so be sure not to miss whichever train you're booked on! Or maybe opt for one of the infrequent and slower Regionale services, at only €11.20... and have a snooze, and some sightseeing?)
3 - either the CV (as per the main drift of this thread) or, if you'd prefer the Piazza Anfiteatro route, for train times use the TI site:
http://www.trenitalia.com/cms/v/inde...0080a3e90aRCRD
... asking for those from "Napoli P.Za Garibaldi" to Pompei - you'd catch those shown as a "Metropolitana" from their platforms, just ONE level below ground... and I see, for example, train 21307 - which sets off at 09:30, to arrive at the "red" Pompei station at 10:06.
(If using the tutte le stazione option, there are also "Regionale" services, which set off from the ground level platforms - but very few of those run on Sundays!)
If coming down on an IT train, buy your Naples/Pompei tickets once in Naples - from any kiosk, news stand etc that you see at the station displaying the UnicoCampania logo... Zone U3, in its weekend allday version €4.60...
http://www.unicocampania.it/index.ph...ietti&action=1
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OK with all that?
Peter
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