This just in: Arthur Frommer agrees with Robespierre!
Dec 29th, 2007, 05:51 AM
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<i>Author: CopperandJade
Date: 12/28/2007, 10:05 pm
Robespierre,
"Value is about the price. Its about you get what you pay for.".(Rob.)</i>
Crikey, I don't know where to start. I don't know what would motivate you to negate my quote to support what is basically <u>agreement</u> with my hypothesis. But I humbly suggest that, just as a rhetorical courtesy, you learn to cut and paste text so your citations are accurate, <i>then</i> add your glosses.
Date: 12/28/2007, 10:05 pm
Robespierre,
"Value is about the price. Its about you get what you pay for.".(Rob.)</i>
Crikey, I don't know where to start. I don't know what would motivate you to negate my quote to support what is basically <u>agreement</u> with my hypothesis. But I humbly suggest that, just as a rhetorical courtesy, you learn to cut and paste text so your citations are accurate, <i>then</i> add your glosses.
Dec 29th, 2007, 07:27 AM
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Out of curiosity, do people know how many the suite or the family room in Hotel Alixia sleeps?
It looks like the price is 82-89 euros.
But the cheapest room still starts at 69 euros?
I'll concede that I've no idea what sorts of rooms are available to a family of 5 in Paris since I've never researched that area. However that's not the subject that Frommer's article is about anyway. Frommer made no claims about families, as I mentioned.
69 euros doesn't strike me as awfully cheap for a single or a double. Why would this be preferable to an Ibis or some other chain hotel in the center? Now I'm curious.
It looks like the price is 82-89 euros.
But the cheapest room still starts at 69 euros?
I'll concede that I've no idea what sorts of rooms are available to a family of 5 in Paris since I've never researched that area. However that's not the subject that Frommer's article is about anyway. Frommer made no claims about families, as I mentioned.
69 euros doesn't strike me as awfully cheap for a single or a double. Why would this be preferable to an Ibis or some other chain hotel in the center? Now I'm curious.
Dec 29th, 2007, 07:41 AM
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I played around with the reservation system some. It looks like the 69 euro rate is for a single on Fri, Sat or Sun. So not much use for the putative family of five, which I still think would be better off in an apartment in the center. The place also seems to be booked up for dates in March and April.
Dec 29th, 2007, 07:45 AM
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Robespierre, I think you are flattering yourself by pretending this is some unique view. I doubt there is anyone here who doesn't believe that rents are cheaper away from the central core in big cities. But that isn't the issue. The question is which is more important to different travelers. Depending on the place, whether it is my first time there, and a dozen other issues, I may very well PREFER to pay more to be in a particular area. It isn't always just a matter of saving money. Some people prefer the grand suite in a hotel, while others are content with the cheapest room in the same hotel. Some insist on an outside cabin with a balcony on a cruise, others would prefer to save money by taking an inside cabin.
And to answer you final question, "is it worth a thousand dollars (on a typical family trip) to be able to do so?", the answer very often is YES. This is not unlike the question "is it worth $100 extra a night for a view of the Grand Canal or the Jungfrau when you can stay on the back side for less?" Again, different answers for different people, but no one will argue that there are savings if you give up certain things.
And to answer you final question, "is it worth a thousand dollars (on a typical family trip) to be able to do so?", the answer very often is YES. This is not unlike the question "is it worth $100 extra a night for a view of the Grand Canal or the Jungfrau when you can stay on the back side for less?" Again, different answers for different people, but no one will argue that there are savings if you give up certain things.
Dec 29th, 2007, 07:58 AM
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neo, I agree. The "key word " here seem to be : family .
The cost of traveling with 3 children must be considerable( starting with the airfare !)
Also, families often stay "in" at night so the location outside the city may be just fine.
The cost of traveling with 3 children must be considerable( starting with the airfare !)
Also, families often stay "in" at night so the location outside the city may be just fine.
Dec 29th, 2007, 08:26 AM
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Robes, I basically agree with you but I disagree with your <i>"I have zero interest in Ibis, Étap, or Mercure".</i> -- at least regarding Ibis and Mercure (and in a very few cases Etap). In city centers, the hotels of these chains are usually grand old classic hotels that have been retrofitted with the needs of the chain. Some of them are splendid (the Ibis in the center of Blois is an example, or the Terminus Nord across from Gare du Nord in Paris). I would agree that the suburban modern Ibis and Mercure are generally of no interest, except for convenience. Even some of the Etap hotels are old hotels with a lot of charm -- for example the one across from the Strasbourg train station, or the one in Le Puy-en-Velay.
Dec 29th, 2007, 08:35 AM
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I agree with Patrick, isn't it common sense that a less desirable location costs less money? If saving money on a trip is important to you then stay outside of the center, if not,then stay in the middle of the area.
I think I learned that when I was about eight years old and wanted to stay right in Yosemite Village instead of in Mariposa. I wasn't paying but the family agreed with me.
I think I learned that when I was about eight years old and wanted to stay right in Yosemite Village instead of in Mariposa. I wasn't paying but the family agreed with me.
