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Matt_from_England Jun 5th, 2006 09:41 AM

Welcome to this third instalment of the Lisbon and Portugal thread/blog: the two previous can be found at...



Again I wish to thank all the previous contributors for making it such a success and look forward to meeting more of you in the future.

I'll be coming up with some interesting fresh ideas for Part III and I am excited as you are to see where this takes us all.

So the red ribbon is cut, the drum role is over - I declare the new blog oficially open!

Happy travels, Matt.

Matt_from_England Jun 5th, 2006 09:48 AM

kenderina - there's always one isn't there... ;-)

kenderina Jun 5th, 2006 09:49 AM

;) I'm sorry Matt, your post should be the last..I just couldn't resist to say it !!!

lobo_mau Jun 5th, 2006 10:15 AM

Kenderina, the next time you are coming to Portugal to see your "old man", please let us know and Matt and I will organize for sure a LDC meeting with you as a guest of honour. Right Matt?
After we had the pleasure of meeting so many Portuguese and Americans, it will be great to have one fine Spanish Lady joining us.

kenderina Jun 5th, 2006 10:21 AM

Sure I will do !! And I hope it to be soon..maybe for the autumn :) I got really envious when I read that you went to see Dulce Pontes at the Castle..I love her voice !!

Nikki Jun 5th, 2006 10:27 AM

There is a possibility I might be in Portugal in July. I tried to read the first two threads in this series but it is a daunting task! So forgive me in advance if I ask questions that have been covered before.

lobo_mau Jun 5th, 2006 10:30 AM

And the Galician singer Uxía Senlle was on stage singing some songs along with Dulce Pontes and some of her own. Uxia performed in Portuguese, with lyrics from 16th century epic poet Camoes. It was a high moment included in a magnificent show.

kenderina Jun 5th, 2006 10:35 AM

I don't know Uxía Senlle but I know Camoes, my mom even knows to say a poem from him by heart :) It has to be beautiful !

lobo_mau Jun 5th, 2006 10:37 AM

Nikki, Portugal is waiting for you. Please feel free to ask anything you like. If already answered, we are happy to copy and paste (we do this quite well) :-)
When and when in July?
Matt, I think we'd better to set up LDC meeting dates in advance. Maybe once a month. I don't know if you noticed but I'm getting fat, and I think I should blame Fodors for this situation.

kenderina Jun 5th, 2006 10:40 AM

Joao..the Sogra's Inn has nothing to do ? :P

dwsnyder Jun 5th, 2006 11:03 AM

Lobo, Matt, et al:

(Partial repost from previous thread)

I check the thread soon after waking, just before work, at lunchtime, just before I leave work and (sometimes) before going to bed. - At least it's not an obsession!

Changed our plans so we fly out of PIT instead of NYC, into Lisbon and out of Porto. We end up with a full day (layover) in Madrid, which I hope will prove to be exciting also.

Is anyone familiar with Moimenta Da Beira ? The parents of a 'sorta half sister' live there and we're thinking of visiting.

Current thoughts on itinerary -
Lisbon - 3 days/nights
Peniche/Obidos 1 day/night
Meandering drive to Moimenta Da Beira (ideas on places to eat/stay along the way ?)
Porto (sister of 'sorta half sister') 1 or 2 days - maybe spend a day on the train.

I'm very eager to learn what people have found about renting cars. Current plan is rent in Lisbon and drop off in Porto.


Matt_from_England Jun 5th, 2006 11:57 AM

So with this new thread I wish to propose a couple of ideas:

Lisbon Dining Club reports to be contained within a new dedicated thread and links posted from here thus to keep the size down.

Trip reports, both mine and from other posters, (eg Lyn's) to be hosted again under a dedicated thread with links posted again within this thread.

It is to keep the actual size of the thread itself reduced to a more managable size and even though there may be 500 posts at the end it won't take as long to scroll through.

What say the members of the board?

And can anyone else come up with other ideas - perhaps some cutting and pasting of relevant material from the last two blogs?

(And a better spell checking procedure from myself ;-))

Anyway, welcome aboard once again.


Matt_from_England Jun 5th, 2006 01:07 PM


I have posted a report about Saturday's historic steam train journey through Lisbon here:-


It's a long report and I though it be better placed within its own thread, and plus it will be easier to locate when I send the links to the responsible persons at C.P. I have a number of other photos taken during this event should you wish to see them.

And yes, I did actually get to interview the Portuguese Secretary of State for Transport.

Hope you like it, feedback appreciated.


Sher Jun 5th, 2006 01:35 PM

I am renting our car in October from:

Now, I have rented in Portugal before from I was very happy with them and the price last year. The car was from Budget at the Lisbon airport.

This year, the price is not as good as Economy, so I am willing to try someone new.

I rent an automatic so if you rent a manual you can find good deals just about everywhere. It is much harder with an automatic.

sarasara is going to be the test case as she will attempt to pick up a car at the Lisbon airport from Economy. I hope all goes well with her. I am sure she will post. She is renting this month.

Pittsburgh is our home airport. I hope you enjoy your experience there. I would be glad to answer any questions about the airport if you haven't been through before.

isabel Jun 5th, 2006 01:41 PM

Hi guys. We will be in Portugal in July - in Lisbon from the 15th to the 20th (after 6 days of driving around the countryside). Do you have any LDC plans for that time?

Nikki - when are you going to be there?

Matt_from_England Jun 5th, 2006 01:45 PM

Isabel we always have plans for a LDC meeting. Consider one scheduled for one night during those dates ;-)


Matt_from_England Jun 5th, 2006 01:47 PM

Okay so I'm filling in my diary, can the following posters confirm their dates for me please:


Thanks in advance, hope I haven't missed anybody out.


Sher Jun 5th, 2006 03:52 PM

We will be in Portugal Oct-15- Oct 28 but only in Lisbon from Oct.24-28.

I will have my cell phone with me. Right now I am planning to use the International SIM that I purchased.

But I could change that to a Portuguese SIM, haven't really decided.

Also, will post our address as soon as we decide. We are waiting for Namaka to report on the apartment.

kenderina Jun 5th, 2006 04:02 PM

Matt, I find your ideas to keep the thread size very very useful.
Maybe you can do the cutting and pasting from the other two blogs not here in fodors but in a permanent website and then add the link here. I really think a website (even a little one) with practical info on Lisbon and Portugal(to say, the one that is in the other blogs) would be great too , what do you think ? :)

ladylyn915 Jun 5th, 2006 04:03 PM

Ok Matt, Good idea. I will copy and paste trip report parts one and two along with the posts of pictures from Sintra and add some new ones of Evora. Eventually, I will get to part three Cascais and Lisbon.

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