THINGS TO DO IN AND AROUND LISBON

Old Mar 10th, 2006, 03:39 AM
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okay Lobo, looking like me just me and you for dinner, so unless you call me I'll be there around 7.30. I'll leave home around 6.15 ish. If you are reading this hjboston, get a taxi to Trindade and meet with us for dinner if you wish.

See you later Lobo.

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Old Mar 10th, 2006, 04:34 AM
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I'll be there. 7.30 sharp. That's a good time, because I'm affraid it will become full after that. HJ, if you read this, please come and bring DH, don't be shy. I wish I had your mail, because I could mail you my telephone number.
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Old Mar 10th, 2006, 03:36 PM
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I hope the first dining club meeting was successful and you guys had a good time.

I have been working on completing reservations and reading, reading, reading.

Looked back at Matt's suggestion about the Serra de aire and found it to look very interesting. The caves and the dinosaur trails. Any one know anything about these? Maybe a good place for Sarasara with kids? And those of us who are kids at heart.

Have a good weekend. Why am I having a hard time replying? I keep trying over and over. Maybe it will finally go.

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Old Mar 10th, 2006, 03:41 PM
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First meeting of Lisbon Dining Club today was a big success Matt is preparing a complete report including pictures.
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Old Mar 10th, 2006, 04:28 PM
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oh, can't wait to hear and see how it went!
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Old Mar 10th, 2006, 05:05 PM
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Benfica is playing with Barcelona the final 8 playoff in 2 games. On 28th March (Lisbon) and 5th April (barcelona)
Matt, we have another reason to celebrate within a few weeks
Bad luck for Barcelona
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Old Mar 10th, 2006, 05:32 PM
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Okay so I'm having problems uploading photos to my webspace - already photoshopped them all to make me look better ;-) but now they are just taking up sace on my hard drive. But they are good...

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Old Mar 10th, 2006, 07:20 PM
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Remember, along with the restaurant names, we want a critique of the food.

We are all waiting.
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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 12:49 AM
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Matt, email me the photos. Next time we have to find an after diner activity. What about the Jazz club you mentioned?
Sher, don't worry, the report includes everything including a picture of the manager having a beer with us.
The cost was about 21 euros, it was not that bad, but our aim is to find places in the range 12 to 15 euros for the same quality.
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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 03:20 AM
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Okay so photos are now online.
Full report to follow...

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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 03:26 AM
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CERVJARIA DA TRINDADE review.

So having arranged to meet Lobo at 7.30 I caught the sunset ferry from Cacilhas to Cais do Sodre, here's the view I had:

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I wasnt't the only one enjoying the view:

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I got to the restaurant:

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And whilst waiting for Lobo had a beer in the bar:

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You wait to be seated, the first room is a large main hall with tiled walls and a vaulted ceiling:

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And so Lobo and I sat and got to know each other whilst choosing from the menu:

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We decided to start with Ameijoas Trindade (10.95 euros):

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...which are cooked in a garlic, butter and parsley sauce. (I personally found the sauce a little salty but the clams were fresh tender and the shells did not contain a hint of sand.)

Conversation flowed easily and it was an extension of the banter we share on this thread:

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(I blame having the camera in such close proximity to my face being the reason for my ugly mug!)

For the main meal we chose Bife Vazia Trindade (Steak in a thick onion sauce) topped with a fried egg. (9.70 euros).

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We chose for the steak to be medium but it came a little underdone, for us it was fine but others may want it "Bem Passado" - well done.

The wine we chose was Adega Vila - the house red at 4.95 euros - bot of us were driving so it didn't matter if we left some at the end. I hate paying for an expensive bottle and leaving some knowing I have to drive.

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For dessert we had Pudim Flan (1.75 euros):

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...which was okay but a little on the small side.

And to finish off we shared a drink with restaurant manager Ricardo Ferreira who was a gracious host:

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After which we had a couple of bicas and settled the bill which in total came to 41.75 euros plus a 2 euro tip.

A few notes made at the time...

Trindade is a large open plan restaurant though with seperate dining rooms for smokers. The walls are decorated with original medieval tiles and it has a high vaulted ceiling. As the night progresses it does become noisy and animated - we arrived at 7.30 and by eight there was a large queue of diners waiting to be seated.

The wine was nothing special, reflected in the price but with us driving it was good for a glass or two.

There isn't much cigarette smoke due to the high ceilings and seperate areas though by about nine it was becoming a little smoky.

So to sum up then with a quick tally out of ten:

Surroundings 9
Ambience 6.5
Company 10
Wine 4
Starter 7
Main 8
Dessert 5
Service 7

As a tourist restaurant it is perfect for the range of food and the decoration of the interior, however for those a little more daring or locals like ourselves there are smaller cheaper places to go just without the history. I think this makes a good locale for a large group or party, but suffers with lack of intimacy.

But I do like, and always take friends to eat here.

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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 04:03 AM
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Do you plan to stay overnight in Sintra? If the answer is yes, then don't return the car in Lisbon between Fatima and Sintra. Between Fatima and Sindra there is highway all the way (toll), it's easy to navigate and you'll enjoy much more Sintra if you have a car.
Sintra to Lisbon may be difficult, because of huge flow of traffic, into and out of Lisbon, but if you choose the hours, you won't have problems. As an example, dining in Sintra and coming to Lisbon by 9 pm or so, and delivering the car in the airport has no problems because most of traffic is flowing in opposite direction. Coming to Lisbon from Sintra early in the morning (8 to 10am) may be a problem.
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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 04:12 AM
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Thanks Matt. It's a perfect report. We have to start planing the second meeting. I'm leaning toward the Casa dos Passarinhos, for a least expensive meal, mixing fish and pork.
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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 04:16 AM
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WoW! I had to get right on to check the forum this morning to see if you had posted. Thank you so much Matt and lobo for the report and photos. You guys must be up all night! I can not wait to get there and try some of that wonderful food. Compared to places here it counts as a bargain.

Did you know that place is listed in Rick Steves' book? OK I admit I have the book. I find it useful for logistics of getting around.

You have discussed the wine a lot but now tell us about Portuguese beer. We like wine and hope to learn a lot about Port but my husband is a beer snob so what should we try?

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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 04:49 AM
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Who is Rick Steve's? ;-)
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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 05:06 AM
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Wow. I had to look this morning, also.

Barb. I have Rick Steves' Portugal book too. Last year I went to the New York Time's Travel Show and listened to him lecture. I found it very interesting.

Matt. Put Rick Steves in the search box and you will come up with a lot of information. Basically, he is a travel writer from Seattle, Washinton that has made a massive industry writing about the various places he visits. People either love or hate him.
He presents himself as an average guy and offers mostly budget ideas for the countries he visits. I find his ideas helpful for hotels and restaurants but his travelogues a little thin. For instance, his book on Portugal leaves all of the Alentejo out except Evora.

I think the restauant report was awesome. But I cannot eat egg on anything like that. I could never eat huevos rancheros in Mexico.

Many thanks.
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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 06:27 AM
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Sher - I know who Rick Steve is, I just think in some cases the best information one can have is from those who are from the place you are going to and don't require any reimbursement for the info they provide. He's not my cup of tea.

BTW didn't you know Evora is the only place in the Alentejo worth visiting...

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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 06:37 AM
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Lobo and Matt- I'm with Barb and Sher in that I couldn't wait to see/hear your report. I don't know what the likes of all of us would do without the two of you.
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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 06:54 AM
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Well Matt. We are going to be sorely disappointed as we will be in the Alentejo for about seven days and we are not spending it in Evora.

But that isn't changing my mind. I don't care nor do I expect to see many Americans where we are.

Again, a note of gratitude for you and Lobo_mau for taking time for us, even though I get the sense that the two of you are enjoying yourselves immensely.

I hope you guys can keep it up and other posters will jump in. Namanka and Barb are going in June, but we aren't going until October and that is a long way off.
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Old Mar 11th, 2006, 07:01 AM
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Thanks, Matt, for the terrific restaurant report with photos! And thanks to both of you for all the Portugal info you share with all of us.
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