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quokka Nov 21st, 2017 06:05 AM

I did, sla! The dodecagonal galleries may be considered a Huguenot element. But the transversal layout (not square but rectangular, a so-called Querkirche) with space for the Duke's box opposite the pulpit and communion table is very common in German protestant church architecture, where the territorial ruler has the function of the bishop and head of the church. Even though the Margrave of Brandenburg-Bayruth was actually Lutheran, he had this function, which lead to conflicts with the Huguenot community who were used to a synodal structure of the church. So at best, it mixes both!

Do spot a colleague here? ;-)

thursdaysd Nov 21st, 2017 06:25 AM

Glad to see that Georgia and Armenia are included, but what about Greek and Russian Orthodox churches? The Portuguese churches in Goa in India are pretty impressive, too.

sla019 Nov 22nd, 2017 10:44 AM

@quokka

>Do spot a colleague here? ;-)

Sorry, no. I'm just a historical linguist, who from time to time provides a bit of linguistic support to his friends among the art historians, the Latin and Greek skills of who are not always beyond the threshold of admiration nowadays. So I'm learning a lot while still remaining an amateur in the true sense of the word. ;)

sla019 Nov 22nd, 2017 10:48 AM

@Quokka

Do you happen to know a comprehensive inventory of Protestant church building in Germany and Europe? Thanks!

PalenQ Nov 22nd, 2017 10:54 AM

Malcolm Miller has been giving tours of Chartres since 1958!

And claims he is a Oxbrridge don or something? Anyway can't be many more opportunities to take in Malcolm's compelling spiel that brings the ancient stones and glass to life.

That don't make Chartres a great cathedral of course but if any cathedral is great it is Chartres, template for all Gothic cathedrals.

Chartres is a sweeet regional town too with things to ferret out besides just seeing the awesome church.

Dukey1 Nov 22nd, 2017 03:54 PM

Does the "gold of Ulm" still "rule the world?"

quokka Nov 23rd, 2017 01:04 AM

@sla: Europe-wide, that's exactly what the Wroclaw project is doing (see link above). Although the result won't be a complete inventory, which would be undoable in a lifetime, but a comparative overview using typical and extraordinary examples.

For protestant church architecture in Germany from the Reformation to our times, there is a handy little book with overview and background, but I am not allowed to promote it here because, errrmmm, I wrote it;-)

(Sorry to everyone else, but unfortunately this forum does not have a PM function.)

Sue_xx_yy Nov 23rd, 2017 04:51 PM

Wow, another interesting exchange.

Thursdaysd, lecture 5 is on a selection of Russian churches including St. Basil's and, argh, I have forgotten.

It is true there is nothing on Greek Orthodox, but there are Icelandic churches, Korean churches, and even American churches included. Remember, it's not meant to be an exhaustive collection, just a selection of one person's idea of churches that have particularly struck him as significant in some way.

I really liked Chartres, I'd love to come back and see it at different times of the day. (It helps to visit on a sunny day. On a November afternoon, the sun is low enough at 2:30 p.m to be pouring through the western facade windows.) We only had an afternoon, so I'm really glad we boned up ahead of time so as to maximize such opportunity as we had.

For what it's worth, I think the restoration has been very successful. I like the greater light reflectivity of the restored, light beige walls. Those who want to see the unrestored look on the other hand have still lots to see, the project didn't address the entire church.

sla019 Nov 24th, 2017 07:28 AM

@quokka

> but I am not allowed to promote it here because, errrmmm, I wrote it

What a pity! How about some loosely encrypted keywords? ;)
Thanks!

PalenQ Nov 24th, 2017 07:52 AM

quokka- can you name a book about Protestant churches in Germany that would be a good reference for us - just title would do.

If there is a web site, you could legally mention it in your Profile.

quokka Nov 24th, 2017 12:55 PM

Translate "Evangelical Church Building in Germany" into German and search for book titles, for example on Amazon.

*ducks and runs*

sla019 Nov 25th, 2017 02:17 AM

Found it in our OPAC - will pick up it this afternoon. Thanks a lot, I'm looking forward to read it!

annhig Nov 25th, 2017 04:22 AM

no need to duck and run, quokka. Mentioning a tome that you have written in the context of a thread like this is light years from the advertising we all hate.

Which has been a very interesting thread indeed - I will have to look out for these Great Courses.

quokka Nov 25th, 2017 09:59 AM

Enjoy reading. If you have questions... ;-)

Sue4 Nov 27th, 2017 01:18 PM

I’ve enjoyed many of the Great Courses, especially the courses on art and history.
I’ve watched the art courses many times in preparation for trips to Europe. The professors are all top knotch, in my opinion, and the courses are worth the money and time spent. I prefer the DVDs to the CDs (there was no streaming when I first discovered these courses). I hate to admit it, but I have some courses stashed away that I’ve never gotten around to watching, or listening to - as it does take some time and commitment. I got a little carried away, and the sales prices seemed to good to miss at the time! The “sales” prices come up frequently, so there was really no need to overdo. Anyway, thanks to this thread, I think I’ll start them again!


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