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May 18th, 2006, 06:05 PM
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Am I missing something? I tried to pay a deposit on a Paris apartment rental by my Visa card using their Paypal service for the deposit. Paypal requires me to set up an account then proceeded to ask for banking information. Is this standard procedure with Paypal? I was under the impression all that was necessary was my Visa account number and expiry date.

I followed up by a telephone call to the owner of the apartment who was under the same impression that all that was necessary was the Visa number.

I`m not the most keen on Paypal owing to some stories I`ve heard whether they are justified or not I am certainly not sure of......just leary. And I am not passing on any banking information to them or do I wish to open an account with Paypal.

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May 18th, 2006, 07:36 PM
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Very surprised to hear negative comments on Paypal. We have done over 250 transactions with them with no problems at all. Yes we gave all our banking information, as Paypal prefers that monies come directly from one's bank account, but they always offer the option of using a credit card. When folks pay me via Paypal, I have no way of knowing whether they used their checking account money, or their credit card. When I pay others use Paypal, I always choose the "other payment options" button so that I can use my FF miles credit card.

I work with a brother and sister than have done thousands of Paypal transactions on Ebay and they have had no problems. It is a surprise to me that anyone has had these problems.

Could said problems be from the phoney emails people get from faux "Paypal" asking for their information? Such stings can happen with any number of online banking services. Paypal warns all their users about these scams.
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May 19th, 2006, 03:47 AM
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Tuscanlifeedit: Thank you for your comments but I am still bewildered as to the Paypal requirement for a bank account to be established if all you are trying to do is pay the apartment owner in Paris by a Visa card. This apartment owner as I said thought all one did was sign up to pay using the credit card.

Visa assumes the responsibility that I will pay my debts not Paypal. Are they not just forwarding this info because the apartment owner in Paris is not considered a business and cannot accept a Visa number on his own?

I have never used Paypal before and am aware of the e-Bay connection and I can understand why they would want a bank account to back up any purchases I would make. But I am just paying by Visa.

What have other apartment renters done when Paypal was the choice?
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May 21st, 2006, 06:26 AM
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to MVOR:
hey - the apt. is clean ,very comfy beds -the noise on the Place is incredible all nite- but, they have fans and AC- so you can close the windows-- the kitchen has everything you need for when you get things at the market right across the street- it is set up twice a week ! the bakery on the Place is very good- we heard that it has changed hands in the last year or so-- we never ate on the Place- but, we would go down and have wine at nite and people watch! the Apt. has many up to date tour books and loads of suggestions from visitors- have a great time- you will enjoy this location-
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May 21st, 2006, 08:37 AM
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I have a Paypal account which I have rarely used -- just to buy a couple items on ebay with a credit card.

I did not give Paypal my bank information, I wouldn't do that, as I didn't intend to ever give them or anyone access to my bank account.

So, you don't have to. However, I do seem to recall some funny business about how if you didn't give them a bank account, you had to wait a little or pay some small fee for them to authorize your credit card. I think the fee was refundable later by using Paypal or something, I don't recall. I just remember I thought it was a ripoff in many ways just to use a credit card (and they didn't really explain it very well on their website), but I did end up doing what they required out of necessity.

It's been a while and I may have gotten some of these details wrong, maybe someone else can explain. But I don't think you have to give them a bank account number if you don't intend to use it for payment, but if you don't, there may be some additional rigmarole.
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May 21st, 2006, 02:52 PM
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Thank you Christina......and you are right about the bank account. I did not want to set up an account in order to simply use my Visa so was directed to apply for an authorization and a fee would be charged to enable me to use that card. I went no further on the apartment owner`s website.

I ended up calling the owner in Paris and we have agreed to another arrangement to pay the deposit. All in all a lot simpler.

And you are so right when you say it is not very well explained on their Paypal website either. I have sent an e-mail to them asking just what the reasoning is for the set up of an account. Shall post here when I received a reply. Thanks again for your comments.

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May 22nd, 2006, 08:02 AM
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Hi Overton, thanks for the feedback on the Bienvenue apartment, especially about the noise. I'll be sure to bring my sound machine!
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May 22nd, 2006, 08:28 AM
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Glad I'm not the only one to find paypal a bit weird wanting my bank details when I'm only going to pay by credit card. In the end, I decided not to give my bank details, so we had to take a lot of euros with us to pay for the apartment.
As an owner and a renter, I can say that we've been very lucky with our renters; perhaps because we are only 50 yards away, and they know we'll be checking before they go? Also we don't use an agency so we have personal contact before they arrive. And we aim to fix any problems immediately - so long as they tell us about them of course.
as to instructions on how to use things, I find myself in a quandry - if I have just arrrived, I am not in the right state of mind to absorb lots of instructions for washer, d/washer, dryer etc. On the other hand, when I am struggling with the dishwasher in my rented roman apartment for 40 minutes, I wish I had paid attention.
We get round that at home by providing the instruction manual [and they can always ask] but I doubt the italian instruction manual would be any use to me. What do other people think?
Generally, as both owners and renters we've been very lucky - the only bad experience was with a dirty apartment in the UK, where the agents completely ignored my pleas for it to be cleaned.
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Aug 10th, 2006, 10:13 AM
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In reference to my posting of 21st of May........I am still waiting for PayPal to respond to my query.
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Aug 10th, 2006, 12:27 PM
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WE have started to use a service called "moneybookers" so that non-UK renters can pay us without a UK cheque a/c. In theory, it means that UK renters can pay us by credit card too, without us having to set up a credit card facility. It seems to work really, really, well! [sorry, any Linda Barker fans out there, i couldn't resist it].
not surprised that Goldwyn never heard drom Paypal re her query - I never did either.
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Jul 21st, 2010, 02:36 AM
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I was using Vrbo too, 15 years ago, but the business changed a lot, and there are plenty websites now where you can submit your ad page and see if it gonna work, before paying a dime. With 16 pictures, VRBO costed me more than 600 USD per year!! Some new websites like viarentals.com or romorama.com or housetrip.com are free to use!

Time changed and VRBO is very old-school.
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Mar 25th, 2011, 02:56 PM
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Mar 25th, 2011, 07:38 PM
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I've rented three apartments in Europe, but most recently went back to a hotel instead. I think I'm leaning toward the boutique hotel for some very simple reasons 1)more reasonable cancellation policies 2) don't have to mess with the whole key exchange thing which can be a total pain 3)don't have to show up with a wad of Euros to hand over on arrival 4)there's someone around to help me do things like get a taxi at 4:30 in the morning

I always thought that the full kitchen was useful, but found that eating out really is one of the joys of travel and we really didn't use it that much.

However, the above being said, the best apartment we have stayed in was in Amsterdam and I liked it for the following reasons: 1) the washer/dryer. Makes traveling with a 22 in carryon much easier. 2) On site management(they had a B&B next door so were easily accesible to get the key and show us how to run the washer/dryer and convection oven) 3) a well equipped kitchen. I found that I did use that one a bit more because they supplied some pantry staples like salt, pepper, olive oil, tea. It was nice.

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