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We've been told to be nice...
Here I would propose to copy paste the best comments found on threads.
Here is the first, from an ongoing thread. No need to cite the author, I'd say :

'it hasn't been turned into what the ahistoric non-city Venice of twee preserved-for-tourist amusements that Venice has prostituted itself to become to please its groping, drooling fans.'

'Venice is sinking under the weight of tourism'

<i> 'it hasn't been turned into what the ahistoric non-city Venice of twee preserved-for-tourist amusements that Venice has prostituted itself to become to please its groping, drooling fans.' </i>

Could somebody parse that sentence for me?

Forget Venice.

Actually, you can be not that kind to newbie's--own up!! to your shortcomings.

I'm with bvlenci. We can all be sweet as pie but grammar girl is gonna have a field day...

That sentence choked google translate when I asked fro English.

Off-topic, Whathello, email address is on my profile.

>>Groping, drooling fans<<


Well I understood the message.

I am a traveller, who knows the <i>real</i> [wherever]

YOU are a visitor (to whom I shall give the benefit of the doubt as regards your capacity to appreciate the <i>real</i> [wherever] - but you're on probation)

THEY are groping, drooling fans who think overpriced tourist tat is not only the <i>real</i> [wherever], but are convinced that it's the <i>only</i> [wherever]- and they love it.

Patrick - a sort of travelling Nancy Mitford perhaps?

Yet another thread to make fun of your fellow posters? Really??

This is beginning to sound like the bunker in 1945.

When are the Russians coming?

A pity the Lounge isn't open, all these threads could, and should be taken there.

No kidding that! It's really too bad the Lounge is closed because it was made for exactly this purpose. To keep the meandering chit chat off the travel destination forums.

Hets

Have they closed it down?

Europe forum is becoming comical.

It isn't closed down, just closed to those who signed up after a certain date. They don't even see it in the forum listings.

TPAYT's thread was begun expression frustration about people's unwillingness to be nicer to NEW posters (despite the headline; the first post makes the issue clear). So it is disingenous to put up a post by me that I wrote in response to the insulting treatment a NEW poster was being given.

I type very fast and hit the button. Very often I go back and clean up my mistakes. I'm not bothering to re-check the thread to see if i clariified my remarks. I am just as unapologetic about my typos and garbles sentences as I am about telling you idiots off when you treat new posters badly and, worse, give them bad advice based on your extremely limiited experiences in Italy especially, and even more limited ideas on how other people enjoy traveling in Europe.

ah -- meant to type "begun expressing frustration" -- and just remembered I often do apologize for my typos. Just not doing it on a thread with as much mean spirited ill-intent as this one.

What a hell it must be to be what the hell--oh, fill in the blanks with whatever you need to believe about yourself, and I'm sure your equally mean Fodor frenemies with be eager to gush all over you. Who was it who said "people are never closer to one anotehr when they can find somebody to hate together" -- ?? - or something like that.

I'm with Yanis V. on this, feeling the contempt with pride.

Interesting that Whathello didn't include some of his/her more controversial comments.

Like his love for Rich.

Anyways, I am honored to be included with this group

without the OP. LOL

The world will not stop turning if new posters stop coming to Fodor's for advice. And certainly not worth all this DRAMA.

Maybe some of you should be writing soap operas instead of giving travel advice...

And what a shame, too, because some of you, including Sandra, have good advice to give, but emotion takes over from logic and makes a very uncomfortable arena for the public.

<The world will not stop turning if new posters stop coming to Fodor's for advice.>

No but it would eventually be the death of the forums.

Funny how people prefer to tell others how to behave than to be told that what they do/write is not in line with what they admonish us to do.

As for the lounge you can ask to reopen it for new posters.

Oh wow. What an amazing idea. Why didn't we think of that?

Nothing so needs reforming like other peoples habits...........Mark Twain

WTH is a "twee" as in Venice of twee???

'Interesting that Whathello didn't include some of his/her more controversial comments.

Like his love for Rich. '

You saw that, huh ... jealous guy ! ;-)

But you can feel free to post it here, obviously.

And his love for suze!!

I think Whathello is the best representative of the TPAYT thread, especially being a newbie.

Good for you??

"Whathello"

Who is the person behind the handle? Obviously not the newbie s/he pretends to be.

Won't say. Some big mystery I guess.

Sandra don't let Whathello get to you. He/she is just an a**hole!

Tsss

Watch your language Cafe. Never been told any manners ?

And Sandra is big enough to know how to defend herself.

Whathello, I apologize, no excuse for my behavior.

No prob. Thx.

Thanks, cafe. I already knew that Pariswat/Whathello/whatever was an a*hole, and won't apologize for saying so.