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hetismij2 Oct 30th, 2024 06:18 AM

Terrible flooding in Spain
 
If anyone is planning on visiting Spain soon you need to be aware of the terrible flooding around Valencia, which has cost at least 64 lives, and washed away infrastructure, and the potential for similar in Catalonia and south-west Spain.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...ia-latest-news

KTtravel Oct 30th, 2024 09:14 AM

The pictures look awful. My heart goes out to the people there.

SusanP Oct 30th, 2024 11:11 AM

I just saw pictures on the news. Awful! Already 72 dead and many missing.
Isn't that the area ekscrunchy is visiting soon?

amsdon Oct 30th, 2024 02:25 PM

I believe Scrunchy's trip is November.
I checked in with some friends traveling at the moment in the North and they have encountered some rain all week but nothing like what is happening today in the Valencia area. I hope and pray this gets resolved quickly.

bilboburgler Oct 30th, 2024 10:16 PM

Me too, but it will take generations.

Maribel Oct 30th, 2024 11:33 PM

Ekscrunchy´s trip begins to Valencia city, I believe, the second week of November.

The high speed rail line connecting Madrid and Valencia has been suspended until Monday, November 4, when IRYO and RENFE hope to be running trains again.

The major impact of the DANA was felt outside of Valencia city and in Castilla-La Mancha but it is a huge, terrible tragedy for the region. Rescue operations are still underway but it's just devastating.

In Spanish, people can keep abreast of the current situation at www.elpais.com

Sources in English---
https://murciatoday.com
https://www.surinenglish.com/
https://www.thelocal.es/20241030/13-...-eastern-spain

mikelg Oct 31st, 2024 03:26 AM

I´m visiting Valencia (city) from Nov 22 to Nov 25, on a family trip, driving from Bilbao. Do not plan to change plans, if they need some kind of support, I think this is the time to go.

cdnyul Oct 31st, 2024 05:11 AM

I am supposed to be there in 16 days.
Do you think, if I cancel, the apartment owner will make it available to locals whose houses were damaged by the flooding?
Will the people affected by the flooding benefit from my money if I go as planned?

danon Oct 31st, 2024 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Maribel (Post 17608339)
Ekscrunchy´s trip begins to Valencia city, I believe, the second week of November.

The high speed rail line connecting Madrid and Valencia has been suspended until Monday, November 4, when IRYO and RENFE hope to be running trains again.

The major impact of the DANA was felt outside of Valencia city and in Castilla-La Mancha but it is a huge, terrible tragedy for the region. Rescue operations are still underway but it's just devastating.

In Spanish, people can keep abreast of the current situation at www.elpais.com

Sources in English---
https://murciatoday.com
https://www.surinenglish.com/
https://www.thelocal.es/20241030/13-...-eastern-spain

thx Maribel. A great deal of information in El PAÍS.
So sad .

Maribel Oct 31st, 2024 07:37 AM

This is a major tragedy, simply heart breaking. The neighborhood of La Torre in the Valencian capital lost 8 victims to the flooding as the garage door where they were sheltered collapsed, allowing in a torrent of water. There are now over 150 dead in the Levante, Castilla-La Mancha and Andalucía, and the complete damage to these regions has yet to be assessed in these early hours. Rescue teams can't even reach many because the roads, bridges have been washed out in these fast floods. It's horrific the images that have been shown on TV today.

There has been major damage to the high speed rail line from Madrid to Valencia, and Renfe and Iryo now project that it will take 2 weeks at best or 3 weeks at worst to repair the damage.

https://english.elpais.com/spain/202...-in-spain.html

hetismij2 Oct 31st, 2024 07:54 AM

Death toll now over 150.

More photos and videos: https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...ga-latest-news

I seriously believe it will not be helping anyone by going there in the next month or more. Shortages of food, water and electricity in addition to the sheer destruction and grief will only be made worse by tourists determined to have their holiday no matter what.



Maribel Oct 31st, 2024 07:57 AM

The DGT (Dirección General de Tráfico) has just advised that during this long holiday weekend, beginning today, that no one should attempt to drive to the Valencian region. The entire regional road network is seriously damaged.

There have been 62 inhabitants in the village of Paiporta (ground zero of the DANA) who have died. A total as of the last count, 158 people have perished in this tragedy.

Those who read Spanish can follow the situation in the Comunitat Valenciana here.

https://www.lasprovincias.es

In today's NY Times (gifted)
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/31/w...smid=url-share


In English, more info here.
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-n...gory/valencia/

cdnyul Oct 31st, 2024 08:36 AM

"Those who read Spanish can follow the situation in the Comunitat Valenciana here.

https://www.lasprovincias.es"

If Chrome is your browser, right click and select "Translate to English".
The translation is quite good.

Maribel Oct 31st, 2024 08:41 AM

Thanks, cdnyul.

https://valenciasecreta.com/en/dana-transport-affectations/

danon Oct 31st, 2024 09:03 AM

In 1957, Valencia experienced a devastating flood that forever changed the city’s relationship with the Turia River. Nearly three quarters of the city was inundated by floodwater and over 60 people lost their lives. The following year, the city embraced a plan to divert the river around its western outskirts to the Mediterranean Sea.”

On our visit to Valencia we thought the transformation of the area where Turia used to flow a wonderful example of urban planning.
Who could have imagined a decision made so long ago probably saved the city itself from another disaster .

janisj Oct 31st, 2024 12:43 PM

for info: This is a quote today directed to a Brit who was asking about traveling there this weekend from a Valencia resident who posts regularly on FlyerTalk. The OP was wondering what to do since BA Holidays wouldn't allow them to change their booking.

"I live in Valencia. The city itself is wholly unaffected and there is no reason not to visit. It is unfortunate that loose terminology has been used. Parts of the Autonomous Community of Valencia (surface area about the same as Wales, for context) were very severely affected, with torrential rain and flash floods taking out bridges and roads, The city of Valencia itself was untouched (the river was diverted from the city about 60 years ago). In fact, apart from blustery winds on Tuesday, we didn't see anything untoward and only heard about the floods the following morning. ."

kja Oct 31st, 2024 01:28 PM

Heartbreaking. Utterly heartbreaking.

joduhl Nov 1st, 2024 06:04 AM

We are planning to return to Valencia in March, staying in the same house in El Cabanyl neighborhood where we stayed last year. I communicated with our VRBO host yesterday and he said the same thing that someone posted here - they had high winds but were otherwise untouched and the center city did not flood.

Maribel Nov 1st, 2024 06:30 AM

The storm has devastated 13 towns within the Valencia province and these hamlets ("pedanías"), technically belonging to the city but about a 30-minute drive south from the city center: Forn d'albedo, Castellar-Oliveral and La Torre along the Turia River bed.

José Andrés and his World Central Kitchen team arrived last night from Mexico and spent the entire night preparing sandwiches to distribute to these communities. He and his team are mobilizing city restaurants to help with this endeavor. The chefs of Restaurante Fierro have opened their baking facility to serve as the base of operations for preparing meals.

kleeblatt Nov 2nd, 2024 01:48 AM

I am so sorry to hear about the devastation in Spain and other hard-hit areas in France and Italy.

This begs the question of when should tourists cancel and when should they continue with their plans despite the damage caused by weather.


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