terminal 2E collapses at Paris DeGaul today
May 23rd, 2004, 04:15 AM
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terminal 2E collapses at Paris DeGaul today
Folks - check out international news. A portion of the roof in the new 2E terminal collapsed this AM. If you are travelling in the next few days, check with your airline. This tragedy will create havoc in the short term and will be a problem for Sumer travellers.
May 23rd, 2004, 04:59 AM
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Traffic is pretty much back to normal. Some flights were cancelled, but others have been moved around to other terminals. 2E wasn't totally up and running as part of it wasn't finished yet.
It shouldn't have any effect on summer travel.
PB
It shouldn't have any effect on summer travel.
PB
May 23rd, 2004, 05:28 AM
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The entire terminal did not collapse as your message header implies.
There is no "havoc"
I'm sure you are trying to be helpful but please be careful how you post "information" as there seem to be a lot of people who believe everything they read here.
There is no "havoc"
I'm sure you are trying to be helpful but please be careful how you post "information" as there seem to be a lot of people who believe everything they read here.
May 23rd, 2004, 06:35 AM
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Singletail: I don't thing seafox's headline is overexaggerated--especially if you compare it to msnbc.com's "roof collapses at Paris airport" or read the message. When six people are killed, hundreds of emergency workers are called in and you check out the pictures, I don's see how you would conclude that this headline was alarmist or misleading.
May 23rd, 2004, 12:55 PM
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Thank you very much, Seafox, for the information. As a world traveller, I am interested in such news.
Singletail, your rude criticism is not warranted. No havoc?? Tell that to the families of the dead.
Too many nutters on this forum.
Cheers, John G.
Singletail, your rude criticism is not warranted. No havoc?? Tell that to the families of the dead.
Too many nutters on this forum.
Cheers, John G.
May 23rd, 2004, 05:46 PM
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After looking at the slide show on the CDG disaster, I am struck by two impressions. The first one is that it is indeed a tragedy, and the innocent people who were killed should not be forgotten. The second impression I got in looking at that twisted pile of a former building is that people in the area were fortunate that more of it did not fall in. In terms of the whole structure, a relatively small section has collapsed so far.
Of course it calls into question the stability of the parts of the hall left upright. But I cringe when I imagine what could have happened if the whole structure from beginning to end had collapsed.
Can any of you structural engineers tell if it collapsed inwardly, or if it toppled over to one side? What got it?
Thermal stress? Poor structural welding? Incorrect load bearing on critical stress points?
Can the selectivity of the collapose be explained? Why just that section and not the whole structure?
Of course it calls into question the stability of the parts of the hall left upright. But I cringe when I imagine what could have happened if the whole structure from beginning to end had collapsed.
Can any of you structural engineers tell if it collapsed inwardly, or if it toppled over to one side? What got it?
Thermal stress? Poor structural welding? Incorrect load bearing on critical stress points?
Can the selectivity of the collapose be explained? Why just that section and not the whole structure?
May 23rd, 2004, 06:58 PM
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From what I heard, it was at 7 am, which is probably why more people weren't affected. I'm pretty sure that is the terminal my flight on Air France is (was) scheduled to land at from Washington DC in July, which sort of surprised me as I have always landed at 2B on this flight before. I didn't like that they moved it to begin with, as I was familiar with the other, and I sure don't now. Parts of new terminals collapsing isn't exactly reassuring for others who need to use a terminal.
May 23rd, 2004, 08:00 PM
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Please Francophile03, this was not directed at you or any recent posters but there are several posts about this awful event for the families of the dead and for those who travel and have maybe problems as a result.
May 24th, 2004, 03:10 AM
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Hi, the Times article can be found here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/24/in...pe/24pari.html
"A 120-foot section of a new terminal at the Charles de Gaulle international airport here collapsed early Sunday, killing at least five people, injuring seven and burying an unknown number of others."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/24/in...pe/24pari.html
"A 120-foot section of a new terminal at the Charles de Gaulle international airport here collapsed early Sunday, killing at least five people, injuring seven and burying an unknown number of others."
May 24th, 2004, 03:40 AM
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Yes, this is a terible blow for the people hurt and killed, thier family and friends, and France itself. Our thoughts and prayers should be with them.
However, life goes on and with it comes immediate problems to solve. They may have to level the entire terminal if it fails on-going safety checks. This is a huge issue as over 20,000 people pass through it every day.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...pse/index.html
However, life goes on and with it comes immediate problems to solve. They may have to level the entire terminal if it fails on-going safety checks. This is a huge issue as over 20,000 people pass through it every day.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...pse/index.html
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