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May 28th, 2018, 04:36 AM
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It doesn't help if you ask again and again whether 10 days are too much for Switzerland as long as you refuse to tell us what you plan to see and to do there and what are your interests.
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May 28th, 2018, 12:09 PM
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Do you want to experience the awesome high Alps or not - no hiking required as mountain trains and lifts in say the Jungfrau Region go off in all directions - do you want to see cities? What are your interests - I have given three wonderful IMO locations for anyone on a first trip to Switzerland but there are endless scenarios - again Lucerne, Jungfrau Region (Wengen is loved by everyone and said to be great for families- quiet - municipal pool - kids games, etc.

I'd say 8 days may be better and only two bases and do day trips from Paris and Amsterdam.
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May 29th, 2018, 06:17 AM
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i second that, forget Belgium for now. Take trains in Switzerland, always on time, easy to use.. See Wengen, child will love it, cows, mtn lifts, great hiking, lovely small village, do Zermatt if interested in area. interesting museum with HX of Zermatt and horrible accident, cemetery
with hikers pik axs on graves, , no cars in either village. Go up to Gornergot in Zermatt, great ride for all, See the Junfrau, Monch, part of Eiger over Wengen, really awesome. Fly in Amsterdam and back out of Zurich/Paris to make life easier. i love Zurich, some do not, very clean smaller city, chocholate shops on every corner, nice small boats on the Lake/use Swiss Rail for discounts and on mtn lifts, but be sure to get on correct boat, as we did not. Be sure o have fondue while there. Options are unlimited. Enjoy. Sue
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May 29th, 2018, 11:35 AM
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Sorry this may sound very lame to you . We haven’t decided anything on Switzerland that’s why asking for advice . In your opinion what are towns that are a must see with a 4 year old . Lucerne seems to the most suggested along with Oberland
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May 29th, 2018, 11:36 AM
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What do you think (OP - Original Poster)?
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May 29th, 2018, 01:03 PM
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You have received some excellent suggestions regarding time in Switzerland. I think you need to start your own research if you don't like the ideas above. Why not buy a guidebook and see what interests you most?
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May 29th, 2018, 01:13 PM
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It does, quite frankly, sound very lame, because you don't seem to have taken charge of your own travel plans and done any research to see what would suit YOU on this trip. It is entirely irrelevant what other people have enjoyed. The world is brimming over with guidebooks, maps, and websites. But youj have to actually get up in the morning and pore over them.

If you don't want to do any homework, that's fine. Hire a travel agent and take a bus tour or something.
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May 29th, 2018, 01:31 PM
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If it were me, I'd schedule 6 nights in each place. If you aren't going to hike and don't want to travel around Switzerland, Lucerne (or at least some place on Lake Lucerne) would be ideal, and 3 nights in the Berner Oberland or perhaps more easily Interlaken, from where a lot more places are easily reachable. Then go to Paris for 6 nights (doing day-trips, including Disneyland), and Amsterdam for 6 nights (doing day-trips). The nice thing about splitting your time more evenly is that you can do as much day-traveling as you wish and still only have to stay in 4 different hotels. Zurich is only an hour from Lucerne by train, so you can easily pop over and see what you want to see. There are also steamers that go all around the lake. Paris is about 5 to 6 hours by train from Interlaken, so if you spent 5 or 6 days in Paris, you would still have plenty of time. Then you can fly out of Amsterdam. While Interlaken isn't the most charming place, it is a convenient base for what you are doing.

If you do want to do these train trips, you really need to make up your mind immediately in order to get the best rates. The trains will be busy in July, but they are the best way to get from place to place where you're going. And since you won't be hiking, you'll probably want to head out for days of exploring, making a Swiss rail pass useful.
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May 29th, 2018, 04:06 PM
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In your opinion what are towns that are a must see with a 4 year old>

Again few if any Swiss towns are musts - but the country's Alpine Wonderland is - Lucerne as a city is so-so but rather it;s its location on a lovely fjord-like Lake Lucerne hemmed in by low Alps - boat trips are great as is taking mountain trains up Mt Rigi and Mt Pilatus - research those - no walking needed. Same for Jungfrau Region with say Wenegen a great base - again you muist reseach those areas to shear how wonderful trips into high Alps from Interlaken area can be.

And then for a cool smaller town head by the Golden Pass scenic train (with panormaic practcially all-glass Observation/Panoramic cars to see again the high Alps from the Alpine valley the train rolls thru.

Stay in Montreux where the GP train ends - lovely smaller town on lake and now in Frecnh Suisse culture and area - again Montreuxc a great base for neat day trips - like the famous Chocolate Train that goes from Montreux zigzagging up thru vineyards en route to Gruyeres - famous medieval wallked town with visit to cheese factory there - then train goes to Broc to let you take tours thru Willy Wankaesque tours thru a Nestle Chocolate Factory.

And, the fairy-take Chateau Chillon castle is just a few miles from Montreux - hop the bus or boat over there.

And of course lake boats on Lake Geneva - some go over to Evian-les-Bains, France for a taste of that country and the famous mineral water this spiffy resort is known for.

Etc - research those places and see why many consider them more highlights of Switzerland than big cities.

I'd suggest 3 nights in Lucernee
4 in Wengen or other Jungfrau town
3 in Montreux
take TGV from Lasuanne to Paris.

Can't be more prescriptive for how one who has never been to Switzerland before might find three really neat bases.

And I'd definitely look into some kind of Swiss Travel Pass if doing anything similar to suggested itinerary I give above.

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May 31st, 2018, 12:12 PM
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OP - What do you think?
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Jun 1st, 2018, 05:54 AM
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Personally I like Wengen more than Lucerne. For a 4 year old, Wengen is a small village, easy to walk around. There is a playground right near the lift up to the Mannlichen, which is in the center of the small village. I think you could bring a stroller up the lift (am I correct on this?) to use with the 4 yr old if he got tired walking. The hiking/walking paths are marked and it is a big flat plateau up there, and you can walk out to that restaruant /hotel out there. Check out if there is a childrens museum in Zurich /Paris or Amsterdam, seems to me that there is. Also for me, Rigi and Pilatus cannot compare to Wengen, as the mountains are spectacular in Wengen. Wengen is not a night life party town, so not good for that, . Hope you can figure it out. In Amsteram, there is so much to see/do i think I lost a reply that I wrote on this....Rijks Museum, Van Gogh Museum, canal boat ride/cheese/wine, Rembrandt House, Resistance Museum, HOuse boat museum, Church in the Attic, etc. . There were so many tourists in July in Amsterdam you could hardly walk on the streets, as a warning. This is why I like the villages, get out of Amsterdam, day trip to fishing villages, windmills, cheese factories, Delft is interesting, Haarlem has the Frans Hal small museum, lovely portraits, in a former alms house. You can purchase day trips at larger hotels in Amstedam. Do less and enjoy more.
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Jun 1st, 2018, 07:37 AM
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Yes every one with kids seems to love Wengen. OP does not want to hike and again in Jungfrau Region hardly have to lift a foot as toy-like trains and aerial cableways go everywhere. Child 4 always go free on them - may need to get a free Family Pass at any station for that or maybe just being 4 is OK without it?
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Jun 2nd, 2018, 05:37 AM
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OK, in Zermatt that is where the Matterhorn hovers over the village, it is awesome. Forget the hiking word and think "walking/riding" in gorgeous country, scenery. YOu control what you want to do, no Mountain climbing! There are mtn trains/lifts in Wengen/Zermatt and most of the mtn touristy places, READ. I am in my 80's with knee replacement and got all over the country. Is budget an issue? Health? Just do it and don't wait or you will get no hotel reservations. Most hotels have some meals with half or full fare, often a very good idea to purchase the meals with the room I think, esp BF and dinner, if you can.
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Jun 2nd, 2018, 06:10 AM
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Hi, I just noted that you are flying into zurich, from where? US? Personally I'd spend a night or two in Zurich, plenty to do if you read, get over jet lag, then get train down to some area of interest, maybe Wengen, just about 3 or 4 hours, get Swiss Rail pass, child free, good on lifts, mtn trains, or at least a percentage discount, and on boats too. Then Wengen to somewhere else, working your way down to Paris perhaps. Zermatt is about the same distance. Palen knows the trains well. look at Swiss Rail site for cost/benefits, etc. Swiss Rail is very responsive in answering questions too on Internet.
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Jun 2nd, 2018, 05:11 PM
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If enough time Lucerne IMO is great too - with lots of day trips by boat on lovely Lake Lucerne, to neat places. I'd stay there instead of Zurich if I had to chose only short train ride from Zurich Airport- if time do both. But, Wengen yes everyone loves it seems - only passed thru it and walked around but never stayed - a quiet family-friendly dreamy car-free village in the midst of awesome surroundings. And easy to reach by train from Interlaken. And like sue says a great base for easy-peasy day trips by lifts and trains without having to 'hike' at all.
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Jun 2nd, 2018, 07:36 PM
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If you are looking for hotels in certain places in Switzerland, ask on this site, some live in country, others have good ideas and have stayed in certain spots. Give an idea of if "money is no object" OR need a hostel type, less expensive.....lots of info among the people on this forum. I took notes and followed their suggestions and had an incredible trip, so ASK.
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Jun 8th, 2018, 11:01 AM
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Thinking of doing Wengen , Lucerne and Montreux with a 4 year old . Landing in Zurich pls can you suggest how to get to these destinations .
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Jun 8th, 2018, 12:31 PM
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Zurich
Lucerne (can go right from Zurich airport in about an hour)
Wengen (train to Interlaken-Ost and then train to Lauterbrunnen and change there for Wengen
Wengen-Lauterbrunnen-Interlaken-Ost Spiez take Golden Pass scenic train route if not the spiffy Golden Pass scneic train itself to Montreux.

Those trips will warrant a Swiss Travel Pass which covers in full all those trips. Plus can use on boats too. covers in full Golden Pass official scenic train but advise to make optional few-france reservations to get place in panoramic/observation cars.
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Jun 8th, 2018, 04:36 PM
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Ok, you do not say where you are flying from to Zurich.....how many hours with a 4 year old? Personally, I would not want to get on another train off to somewhere else.I'd crash in Zurich, enjoy the city, get over jet lag, take little boat on the lake, go to chocolate shops, and then set out for the other places THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO. I get jet lag pretty bad, so maybe you may not, but my first day is not very enjoyable when I land from the US, until I get some rest. However, that is up to you. YOu may have a very cranky 4 yr old if you head out for a second jaunt on a train right away. Wengen is about 3 and 1/2 to 4 hrs from Zurich as I recall, a train change or two which is no big deal, real easy with time to do it, and the trains are ON Time in Switzerland.
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Jun 9th, 2018, 09:12 AM
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Yes it is a long train trip to Wengen with changes usually in Bern, Interlaken-Ost and Lauterbrunnen - all simple but if jet lagged...
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