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mmcgriff Jul 28th, 2013 09:13 AM

Switzerland
 
We are coming to Switzerland the first week of September and have an extra night to spare before heading out of Geneva to Paris. We are wondering if we should stay an extra night in Lucerne or in Montreux. Any thoughts? Thank you ahead of time!

swandav2000 Jul 28th, 2013 09:42 AM

Hi mmcgriff,

Our suggestions will be more helpful if you could give us some more information, such as --

Your complete itinerary, including how many days currently in Luzern and Montreux. Will you be visiting any other mountain destinations?

Who is travelling -- ages?

What are your interests -- walking, hiking, sight-seeing, wine tasting, gourmet dining?

Hope to hear more!

s

simpsonc510 Jul 28th, 2013 09:59 AM

I'd stay in Lucerne. It's one of my favorites!

mmcgriff Jul 28th, 2013 12:20 PM

swandav2000/. We're are staying in Wengen for 3 days, currently Lucerne 2 days and Monteux 2 days. 2 adults. We love walking/hiking/ wine. However we wil also be staying in Beaune France so if we don't get much wine in the Montreux area we'll be okay!

joannyc Jul 28th, 2013 01:00 PM

Based on your current itinerary, I'd add the extra night to Lucerne.

But, then again, if you add another night to Montreux, you could go to Yvoire for the day.

PalenQ Jul 28th, 2013 02:12 PM

marking for later comment

swandav2000 Jul 28th, 2013 08:52 PM

Hi again,

Well, I'd add that day to Montreux -- with 3 days for Wengen and 2 days for Luzern, that's 5 mountain days.

And if you like wine, having an extra day to wander the vineyards of the Lavaux (between Montreux and Lausanne) is a great idea. The Lavaux is at its best in the fall, too. You can take the train to Lutry and go on the signposted walk of its medieval buildings. After that, walk through the vineyards to Cully or Rivaz (2 or 3 hours), and go to the Vinorama in Rivaz, where you can taste wine from all over the region. End the day in Vevey, exploring the wonderful streets and nooks and crannies of its old town right next to the lake.

Then you still have two full days to explore Montreux and its promenade, Villeneuve, Chillon, Montreux's old town, and take the Chocolate Train if you want.

Have fun as you plan!

s

PalenQ Jul 29th, 2013 11:37 AM

with 3 days for Wengen and 2 days for Luzern, that's 5 mountain days.>

No that is 3 mountain days - Lucerne being anything but in the mountains.

I'd add the extra day to Wengen as they are so so many varied things to do from that base - like do a lake boat ride on either lake bookending Interlaken or do the fantastic Schilthorn/Murren/Gimmelwald excursion, or go to the famous Ballenberg Open-Air museum or Brienz to take the vintage steam train up the mountain and perhaps do a gentle stroll back down as I did.

For lots of great info on Swiss trains and lake boats check out these fine sights - http://www.budgeteuropetravel.com/id3.html; www.swisstravelsystem.com and www.ricksteves.com and www.seat61.com. You are traveling around enough to warrant a Swiss Pass - an 8-consecutive-day pass would be great - covering all your travels indicated - including in full to remote Wengen and Murren, boats on either lakes and also on Lake Lucerne and in full up Mt Rigi from the lake and also free entry to 400+ Swiss museums - about a $25 value in the case of Ballenberg.

swandav2000 Jul 29th, 2013 09:27 PM

Luzern is a base from which one can very easily ascend the mountains.

Jeromef Jul 30th, 2013 02:39 AM

May I ask, if one should base his stay in luzern or murren/wengen?

PalenQ Jul 30th, 2013 04:47 AM

For Alpine wonderland scenery by all means in the Jungfrau Region - and there are other bases in the hills that are no so remote as Murren or Wengen - many like Grindelwald and Lauterbrunnen - especially folks looking for a more lively atmosphere than somnolent Murren or Wengen though for folks who like solitude those can be great.

PalenQ Jul 30th, 2013 12:54 PM

Luzern is a base from which one can very easily ascend the mountains>

a few mountains like at Engelberg and Mt Pilatus - but for the real Alpine wonderland where you can spend several days only places like Zermatt and the Jungfrua Region will fulfill that picture of Switzerland perhaps etched in your minds eyes - plus staying in the mountains is a key and Lucerne is in no way in the mountains even though some low Alps can be seen from it perhaps.

Two very different bases - Lucerne is great but for the Alpine aspect of Switzerland you have to IMO stay right up in the mountains not merely day trip in for a few hours.

swandav2000 Jul 30th, 2013 01:05 PM

Pal, the OP is doing both, not either/or. This was a question about where to stay in addition to Wengen & Luzern. So, I think the extra day should be spent in Montreux, which provides a greater contrast.

s

Jeromef Jul 30th, 2013 07:54 PM

2 nights based in luzern covering Zurich/bern/luzern


3 nights based in either murren/wengen or grindelwald/Lautenbrunnen, covering the oberland area and the alpines.

2 nights based in Zermatt.

Im a singaporean planning for my honeymoon and theres practically nothing to see in my concrete jungle country. I'll like a mix of quiet swiss life blending with lively atmosphere on the other, similar to what PalenQ mentioned.

My mind was fixed on murren until I saw your reply. Personally I do not know where to stay. Seems like a theres many good options to choose from. :)

Am currently doing some research on Montreux like what swandav2000 mentioned too. :)

PalenQ Jul 31st, 2013 12:37 PM

Pal, the OP is doing both, not either/or. This was a question about where to stay in addition to Wengen & Luzern. So, I think the extra day should be spent in Montreux, which provides a greater contrast.>

OK thanks for putting me straight but in that case with only 3 days in Wengen and already 2 in Lucerne and Montreux then I would definitely say Wengen as there is so so much more varied things to do in the Jungfrau Region than in either of the other two where for the average traveler two days is enough (though each is a pleasant base from which to hop to nearby places, just places not as awesome IMO as in the Jungfrau Region - say doing the fantastic Schilthorn excursion that also incorporates Murren and Gimmelwald in it.

greg Jul 31st, 2013 01:01 PM

I would not downplay wines from Switzerland. They are not as known as the wines from France because hardly none of the Swiss wines are exported. If you find one you like, it is unlikely to be available once you are outside Switzerland.

PalenQ Aug 1st, 2013 08:09 AM

Agree with greg on Swiss wines - they are a good value and taste good to me - they have not marketed them much probably because of the daunting advantage German, French and Italian wines already have in the area. But yes do not downplay Swiss wines especially those from the Rhone valley like around Sion and Visp.

PalenQ Aug 1st, 2013 11:16 AM

If adding extra day to Montreux then consider taking the Chocolate Train or regular trains up to Gruyeres - the walled medieval looking city of your dreams where you can also tour a cheese factory and then onto Broc-Factory train station where you can do a Willy Wonkaesque visit to the Nestle Chocolate factory - Chocolate Train departs from Montreux.

aliced Aug 1st, 2013 11:32 AM

In September, Chocolate train only runs Mon/Thurs/Fri; but we have decided it is not good use of full day in Montreux -- 8am-6pm. Plus, the reservation for same will cost you PLENTY (50chf) even though it is 'covered' with the Swiss Pass. Suppose you could try & get on without resv. We'd rather explore areas mentioned above, plus have a full day in Lausanne. And, you're going to love Beaune and the Hospice and all the Burgundian cuisine and wines!

We are set w/nights as follows: 2-Lucerne, 3-Interlaken, 2-Zermatt, 2-Montreux, 1-Geneva for early departure.

suze Aug 1st, 2013 12:02 PM

My vote goes to Montreux (or Vevey or Lausanne).


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