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We are thinking of going to Switzerland in November for about 3 days. Would you recommend Zurich or Geneva? We are traveling with three people in their 50's and one person in their early 20's. We like to do a variety of different things, museums, old churches and food. . We are open to anything. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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Neither.
Zurich is a business city and Geneva is dominated by a variety of UN agencies.
I would head for the mountains - either Lucerne or Interlaken - so you can see some of the outdoors (depending which trams and cable cars are not down for seasonal service).
Also charming towns with a variety of churchs, castles, lakes etc: Brienz, Thun, Gruyere, Bern, etc.
Zurich is a business city and Geneva is dominated by a variety of UN agencies.
I would head for the mountains - either Lucerne or Interlaken - so you can see some of the outdoors (depending which trams and cable cars are not down for seasonal service).
Also charming towns with a variety of churchs, castles, lakes etc: Brienz, Thun, Gruyere, Bern, etc.
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Zurich is more than a business city: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mksfca/...th/4207010064/
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There are more than 50 different museums in Zurich alone. With only three days and given the interests noted I think some sort of urban area might end up being better. Hard to fit everything in in such a short period but if I had to choose between Geneva and Zurich, I would pick Zurich. There is always the possibility of a long day trip to somewhere such as Lucerne.
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The mountains in November can be a really dreary place in the oft foul weather and dark days - Lucerne would be a good place to include with Zurich - to me Zurich has much much more to offer than Geneva as a city though Geneva as a base from which to hop to Montreux, Vevey, Lausanne, Gruyers, etc can be nice for a short spell.
If going by train check out these IMO fantastic sites - www.swisstravelsystem.com; www.ricksteves.com; www.seat61.com and http://www.budgeteuropetravel.com/id3.html.
If going by train check out these IMO fantastic sites - www.swisstravelsystem.com; www.ricksteves.com; www.seat61.com and http://www.budgeteuropetravel.com/id3.html.
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We were in Adelboden the last week of November in 2012 and found it delightful, not dreary at all!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pug_gir...7633185238329/
But yes, very expensive!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pug_gir...7633185238329/
But yes, very expensive!
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I've been to all parts of Switzerland. Yes, food in particular can be very expensive; accommodations expense obviously depends on where you stay and at what star level. But "expensive" obviously depends, also, on what you feel you can afford.
Dreary? I have yet to find the country dreary but I realize that not everyone shares my values.
Dreary? I have yet to find the country dreary but I realize that not everyone shares my values.
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Even in wet weather Switzerland is anything but 'meh' to me - but it can be dreary if up in the mountains - but otherwise it is just like the rest of Europe - wet cool weather makes it dreary no matter where you are.
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With the train system they have in Switzerland, You have easy access to anywhere.
Give some thought to Lucern, Bern & Interlaken.
If you are there in late November you can attend one of more of the Christmas markets.
Give some thought to Lucern, Bern & Interlaken.
If you are there in late November you can attend one of more of the Christmas markets.
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In millie's defense, the weather over the past few days really has been blecch -- a different meaning to "50 shades of grey" ;-)
That said, overall, we love Switzerland and don't find it dreary at all.
In November, I would suggest OP and family base themselves in Bern, Lugano or Basel. Bern is a very handsome city that isn't as tourist oriented as Luzern, has beautiful arcaded streets to wander under in case the weather is awful, some good museums, lots of cafes, etc. It's easy to get to the mountains or to daytrip to places like Solothurn, Murten, even Luzern (take the longer, but much more scenic train through the Emmental).
Lugano is Switzerland with an Italian flair -- a scenic lakeside city, and like Bern, will still be lively in November. Lugano also has arcaded streets and a few interesting museums. If so motivated, you can easily daytrip to Milan.
Basel, where we live, doesn't have the mountain vistas that Bern, Luzern, and Lugano do (sadly). But it does have the Rhine, beautiful old churches, more than enough museums to keep anyone occupied for 3 days, an attractive old town. And between October 26 and November 10, it also has the Herbstmesse (autumn fair).
http://www.basel.com/en/event/basler-herbstmesse
November is simply not the time to visit the alpine resorts --most hotels and restaurants will be closed. The proprietors are either taking a holiday or sprucing up their properties for the start of the winter season.
That said, overall, we love Switzerland and don't find it dreary at all.
In November, I would suggest OP and family base themselves in Bern, Lugano or Basel. Bern is a very handsome city that isn't as tourist oriented as Luzern, has beautiful arcaded streets to wander under in case the weather is awful, some good museums, lots of cafes, etc. It's easy to get to the mountains or to daytrip to places like Solothurn, Murten, even Luzern (take the longer, but much more scenic train through the Emmental).
Lugano is Switzerland with an Italian flair -- a scenic lakeside city, and like Bern, will still be lively in November. Lugano also has arcaded streets and a few interesting museums. If so motivated, you can easily daytrip to Milan.
Basel, where we live, doesn't have the mountain vistas that Bern, Luzern, and Lugano do (sadly). But it does have the Rhine, beautiful old churches, more than enough museums to keep anyone occupied for 3 days, an attractive old town. And between October 26 and November 10, it also has the Herbstmesse (autumn fair).
http://www.basel.com/en/event/basler-herbstmesse
November is simply not the time to visit the alpine resorts --most hotels and restaurants will be closed. The proprietors are either taking a holiday or sprucing up their properties for the start of the winter season.
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many hotels in Alpine resorts close during November as nearly no one comes there and the proprietors take their own holdays - some cable cars are closed for maintenance - check things out before going to Alpine areas to see if the conveyance you want to take is running. Trains of course always run.
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I must admit that I don't understand why so many people seem to dislike Zurich.
I'm someone who likes museums, old churches, and food (among other things), and I thoroughly enjoyed my time in Zurich. Dukey1 noted that it has MANY museums; I would add that it has some very impressive ones, including the Kunsthaus Zurich (art) and the Landesmuseum Zurich (history, including medieval art), both of which I found quite impressive and well worth at least 1/2 day each. The Fraumunster has stunning Chagall and Giacometti stained glass; the Grossmunster has some very special bronze relief doors; both have interesting cloisters. As for food, my dinner at the Zunfthaus zur Waag was among the best of my recent 30-day trip through Switzerland. My one regret about my time in Zurich is that I gave it ONLY 2 days -- there were other museums that I think I would have really enjoyed.
If you want to spend a day or so outside of Zurich, you have tons of options. In addition to those already mentioned, Winterthur -- just 1/2 hour or so from Zurich -- has 5 different small art museums, each with a few exquisite pieces. WELL worth a day IMHO.
Hope that helps!
I'm someone who likes museums, old churches, and food (among other things), and I thoroughly enjoyed my time in Zurich. Dukey1 noted that it has MANY museums; I would add that it has some very impressive ones, including the Kunsthaus Zurich (art) and the Landesmuseum Zurich (history, including medieval art), both of which I found quite impressive and well worth at least 1/2 day each. The Fraumunster has stunning Chagall and Giacometti stained glass; the Grossmunster has some very special bronze relief doors; both have interesting cloisters. As for food, my dinner at the Zunfthaus zur Waag was among the best of my recent 30-day trip through Switzerland. My one regret about my time in Zurich is that I gave it ONLY 2 days -- there were other museums that I think I would have really enjoyed.
If you want to spend a day or so outside of Zurich, you have tons of options. In addition to those already mentioned, Winterthur -- just 1/2 hour or so from Zurich -- has 5 different small art museums, each with a few exquisite pieces. WELL worth a day IMHO.
Hope that helps!
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Einselden and its famous manastery that is still a mecca for pilgrims is a great short trip out of Zurich, a city where I also have spent days and thoroughly enjoyed it - the Bahnhofstrasse is often called the world's swankiest street but do not judge the whole city on it - a neat old town and neat lakeside walks and hill-climbing trams that take you into forests...
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On either lake - Lake Geneva or Lake Zurich you can take boat trips on the lakes - I've always found these to be lots of fun and relaxing. Get off at some town or place that seems interesting and board the next boat back.
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Zürich is boring city for tourists.
It is expensive and there really isn't any spectacular site to visit.
It certainly is no foodie destination.
Zürich is good for a day of sightseeing if you on your way to the BO or other parts of the country.
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It is expensive and there really isn't any spectacular site to visit.
It certainly is no foodie destination.
Zürich is good for a day of sightseeing if you on your way to the BO or other parts of the country.
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