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Switzerland 11 nights in September -- seeking recs

Switzerland 11 nights in September -- seeking recs

May 6th, 2019, 02:48 AM
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We are planning to take the Golden Pass train routes on the above itinerary where it's available. If I understand, it's split into 3 segments and along those segments, some of the trains are panoramic.
--How can I tell which ones are panoramic, so that I can rough out some specific departures times?
--And then I know we can just show up and hop on any 2nd class train car (with our 2nd class Pass), correct? Reservations are optional but not required?

Riding in those awesome front seats would be a great experience too.
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May 6th, 2019, 11:47 AM
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Load down the timetable 2018-2019 by mousclick and you will see which trains on which legs are Panoramic Expresses.
Timetable - GoldenPass
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May 6th, 2019, 11:57 AM
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there are a few apartments available in this building; looks to be twice as far from the train station as the Hotel Edelweiss. Price for the apartment is a bit less, and it includes a washer and dryer which would be a big plus. Any feedback on this apartment, building or location? (It's a 2-bedroom, but we only need one; however, I wasn't so keen on the 1-bedroom that's available for our dates)
https://www.e-domizil.com/vacation-h...-switzerland/#
I actually stayed in that apartment in 2016. Great apartment with a speactular view. Only downside is that there is a pretty good elevation change between the apartment and the station, and we found that it was sometimes worth the expense of calling a taxi (definitely if you have luggage; sometimes when the weather isn't ideal).

Here's a picture of the view from the balcony:



If you click on my profile, you can read my trip report.
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May 6th, 2019, 06:04 PM
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twk, your trip report is fantastic. I only had time right now for a quick look, but some of the information you shared will be really helpful in my planning. Regarding the front-row reservable seats on the panoramic train from Zweisimmen to Montreaux, does one's Travel Pass need to be 1st class? We were planning on getting a 2nd class Pass but are hoping to snag those front row seats too.
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May 7th, 2019, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by GinnyJo View Post
twk, your trip report is fantastic. I only had time right now for a quick look, but some of the information you shared will be really helpful in my planning. Regarding the front-row reservable seats on the panoramic train from Zweisimmen to Montreaux, does one's Travel Pass need to be 1st class? We were planning on getting a 2nd class Pass but are hoping to snag those front row seats too.
You can upgrade your ticket to first class for that specific journey, if you have a 2nd class pass. Ticket office at any station should be able to do that for you when you get to Switzerland.
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May 7th, 2019, 09:30 AM
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The front row VIP seats have to be booked months in advance since there are so few of them- book on official GP site even if don't have pass or ticket.
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May 7th, 2019, 02:29 PM
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The front row VIP seats have to be booked months in advance since there are so few of them- book on official GP site even if don't have pass or ticket.
Is it true that these front-row seats become available for booking about 90 days out? In that case, I have about 30 days to go before they are even available for booking. (I checked the MOB site today, and it only will let me reserve in what appears to be car 3 or 4. The image of the first car shown is grayed out.)
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May 7th, 2019, 02:37 PM
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VIP seats are sold separately and sell out quick - there are some at rear of train but front is much nice- you are in cabin next to driver's cabin so kind of like driving the train. Note first row of pictures - https://www.google.com/search?q=gold...w=1280&bih=625
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May 7th, 2019, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GinnyJo View Post
Is it true that these front-row seats become available for booking about 90 days out? In that case, I have about 30 days to go before they are even available for booking. (I checked the MOB site today, and it only will let me reserve in what appears to be car 3 or 4. The image of the first car shown is grayed out.)
Unless itís changed, they will go on sale about 90 days out.
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Jul 11th, 2019, 03:28 PM
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Hello again -- Based on the recent excellent TR by Adelaidean on the other thread, we are reconsidering the latter part of our Switzerland visit. In brief, also recapping from above, our new itinerary would be this:

Friday morning arrive Zurich non-stop from USA.

3 nights in Zurich, Fri-Sat-Sun: Hotel Rossli (includes breakfast). This is the third draft – originally I planned 3 nights in Luzern then switched the plan to 3 nights in Basel. But I feel convinced that Zurich is right for us given that it provides a base for an easy day trip to Basel on Sat or Sun. Basel is a priority for us.
In Zurich: walking tour(s), visit neighborhoods like Zurich West, Langestrasse & Im Viadukt, museums like Kuntsthaus Zurich &, churches (Fraumunster), etc depending on weather.


3 nights in Wengen, Mon-Tues-Wed: Hotel Edelweiss south-facing balcony (includes breakfast)
Monday morning -train to Bernese Oberland. Explore Luzern en route. Golden Pass to Wengen. Plan on scenery, hikes, scenery, hikes, scenery.


2 (not 3 )nights in Bern, Thu-Fri-: The Bristol Hotel (business room, no breakfast)
Walking tour, museums such as Klee & Kunstmuseum, maybe Historisches Museum tapestries, Einsteinhaus, Munster Stvinzenz. Saturday market at Munstergasse. Perhaps Thurn, Murten, Solothurn. Laundry at the train station.


3 (not 2) nights in Montreax (not Lausanne as above), Sat-Sun-Mon: (maybe double board at Golf Hotel Rene Capt)
explore Lausanne, plus Perhaps Olympic Museum or Chateau de Chillon,, Frieborg, Ouchy.

Do you think this would make for a more memorable Swiss experience??
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Jul 11th, 2019, 05:30 PM
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There's certainly more than enough to keep you busy in Zurich, but if Basel is a priority, I don't understand why you aren't giving it a night or two.

I hope your experience of the Edelweiss is better than mine -- my view was blocked by the neighbors' laundry.

Sounds like you only really have ab most 2 days in Wengen. Is that enough for your interests?

If you haven't already seen it, you might find some useful information in my trip report:
My delightful sampling of Switzerland’s gems, with many thanks
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