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savy4 Feb 15th, 2010 04:27 AM

suggestions for planning an itenary
 
Hi,
I am new to this forum.Am planning a trip to europe from the middle of may to the end of may.I wish to visit amsterdam,prague and vienna and krakow.i want 5 days in amsterdam and 5 days in krakow.i have 10 more days,please advice where i can go.i am flexible about changing all the places except amsterdam and krakow.i have already seen switzerland and parts of germany.
thank you,

jamikins Feb 15th, 2010 04:47 AM

I'm not sure I understand. Why dont you spend them in Prague and Vienna?

You can go wherever you want to go...

britomart Feb 15th, 2010 04:54 AM

I've been to Prague, you could easily spend 5 out of the 10 days there seeing the sites and doing day trips out of the city. Budapest and Vienna could take up the remaining 5.

ira Feb 15th, 2010 06:13 AM

Hi S4,

>I wish to visit amsterdam,prague and vienna and krakow.i want 5 days in amsterdam and 5 days in krakow.i have 10 more days,please advice where i can go.<

How about 5 days in Prague and 5 in Vienna?

((i))

PS, the words are "itinerary" and "adviSe". Proper nouns are capitalized. One puts a space after a comma and two spaces after a period. A question ends with "?" not a eriod.

ellenem Feb 15th, 2010 07:19 AM

Amsterdam 5 days
Prague 5 days
Vienna 5 days
Krakow 5 days
Seems a straightforward solution.

("One puts a space after a comma and two spaces after a period."
Not any more, ira. That typing rule went out with typewriters that featured non-proportional type. Computer type is proportional and allows for appropriate spacing without having to type extra spaces. Only one space is needed after any end-punctuation. One space after a period is correct and would helpful to the readers of the original post here.)

Palenque Feb 15th, 2010 07:41 AM

savvy - going by train or car or plane?

offhand i would probably take a few days off Krakow and put them somewhere else- I have been to Krakow and personally would not want to spend five whole days there, even though it is incredibly quaint - not a whole lot to see or do in the city itself - unlike IME Prague or Vienna, Amsterdam, etc.

Palenque Feb 15th, 2010 01:13 PM

But Krakow does offer two compelling day trips -one goes to the nearby Wieliczka Salt Mines - a UNESCO World Heritage Site - really interesting tour conducted by miners

the other of course goes to Auschwitz-Birkenau (sp?), about an hour from Krakow.

Oh i suppose Zakopane could be a day trip as well but i do not know how long that would take.

ira Feb 16th, 2010 07:11 AM

Hey elnm
>("One puts a space after a comma and two spaces after a period."
Not any more, ira...............<

The OP had no spaces.

((I))

ellenem Feb 16th, 2010 07:52 AM

Yes, ira, thus my last sentence. But two spaces are no longer needed.

Palenque Feb 16th, 2010 12:42 PM

yada yada yada yada yada

savy4 Feb 17th, 2010 04:13 AM

thank you for the suggestions,(not for the english lessons though!!)
my revised plan --
Amsterdam--5 days
amsterdam to cologne
cologne -- 2 days
cologne to Prague
Prague -- 3 days
Prague to budapest
Budapest -- 2 days
Budapest to Krakow
Krakow -- 5 days
does this seem workable
regards,

adrienne Feb 17th, 2010 06:43 AM

Why don't you do Prague, Krakow, and then Budapest and fly home from Budapest. That will give you less time traveling between locations and a bit more time in the cities.

I also count more than 20 days as you'll need a half day for the transit from Amsterdam to Cologne, 1 day each for Cologne to Prague, Prague to Budapest, Budapest to Krakow. Perhaps you're thinking of 1.5 days in Cologne.

Luisah Feb 17th, 2010 07:09 AM

(not for the english lessons though!!)

He was doing it to help you. Spaces after words make reading easier; some people don't bother reading posts when all the words run together (or typed in all caps), so you might get fewer responses to your question.

savy4 Feb 17th, 2010 07:37 AM

thank you all.I need to go to Krakow for a meeting at a particular time and hence the schedule is so.But will try to see how to rework it if possible.
thanks again and have a good weekend,

Palenque Feb 17th, 2010 09:55 AM

hank you for the suggestions,(not for the english lessons though!!)
my revised plan --
Amsterdam--5 days
amsterdam to cologne
cologne -- 2 days
cologne to Prague
Prague -- 3 days
Prague to budapest
Budapest -- 2 days
Budapest to Krakow
Krakow -- 5 days

Seems fine to me at least - my kind of itinerary - if you are going by train then with all those train trips by all means consider the Eurail Select Saver Pass - good in Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg as one unit), Germany, Czech Republic and Hungary - a 4 country Eurail Select Pass that lets you hop on practically any train anytime in these countries - if over 25 the pass only comes in first class and that IMO has huge benefits in making a leisurely trip - lots more empty seats, bigger setas, more room for luggage, etc. Compared to ordinary first-class tickets the pass should be a bargain - From Budapest to Krakow either fly - it's a long train trip or take the overnight train and just pay that fare out of pocket - trains in Poland are still rather cheap. Note a Saver Pass is for two people traveling together at all times - one pass with two names on it and about 20% savings over two individual passes. For loads on train travel in these countries and passes i always highlight these info-laden sites - www.budgeteuropetravel.com; www.ricksteves.com; www.seat61.com- a wealth of info to help anyone plan a rail trip and even lots of useful info for folks not going by rail.

savy4 Feb 17th, 2010 05:32 PM

thank you so much.hey by the way didnt mean to be rude about the english lessons.just attempted to be humorous!am browsing alongside working and hence need to hurry with my typing.
thanks anyways for all the tips and links.
Regards from India,
Have a good weekend,

Sassafrass Feb 17th, 2010 08:02 PM

Savy4, I am not meaning to be rude either. This really is well intended. It is very difficult to read and follow a train of thought when sentences run together with no spaces, and phrases run together with no commas. Unfortunately, it may also make a person look as if they are either not educated, or lazy and they just don't care. Since you have a job in which you travel, you must be educated. You are doing your homework, so you are not lazy. I am sure, when you think about it, you would like what you write to be clearly understood by your readers. It may sting (I know this from personal experience), but advice that can actually help you in some way is a good thing.

Have a wonderful trip.

Palenque Feb 18th, 2010 12:28 PM

savy4, being from India, IMO does really well for posting in a second language - how would you do in a second language?

Sassafrass Feb 18th, 2010 12:42 PM

Actually, I appreciate any help or corrections people give to me for my Spanish and Italian. Anything that improves my ability to communicate is welcomed.

yorkshire Feb 18th, 2010 01:01 PM

Plus, it has nothing to do with English to add spaces between sentences. I found the run-ins really hard to read as well.

savy4 Feb 20th, 2010 04:19 AM

Could you please tell me if the following itenary is sensible?
Austria(6 days)-- to cover Vienna,Salzburg and Innsbruck
Innsbruck to Budapest
Budapest and surrounding areas(5 days)
Budapest to Prague
Prague(3 days)
Prague to Krakow
Krakow(4 days)
back home!
THANK YOU,

Aramis Feb 20th, 2010 05:41 AM

To The Grammar Nazis - Give it a rest, please.

Savy4 - I answered your other thread which had the same essential itinerary proposed - see below. Like Palenque, I thank you for making the effort to communicate in my language;

Going from Vienna to Innsbruck, backtracking to Salzburg, then backtracking past Vienna to Budapest does not make good use of time or energy. Do you have to start in Vienna?

The most direct route (with driving times) would probably be;

Budapest - Vienna (2.5 hours) -> Salzburg (3 hours) -> Innsbruck (2 hours) -> Prague (6 hours) -> Krakow (6 hours)

If you leave out Innsbruck, its 5 hours from Salzburg to Prague.

Train times are likely to be a fair bit longer execpt for Budapest - Vienna - Salzburg ,as the Czech and Polish rail systems have fewer fast/direct trains.

Check www.bahn.de

annhig Feb 20th, 2010 06:42 AM

ditto me, Savy - if you don't mind my saying so it gets confusing if you post multiple threads about essentially the same query.

are you now going to amsterdam? how long do you actually have?

regards, ann

savy4 Feb 21st, 2010 01:26 AM

Sorry for the confusions.Have been working out various possibilities.Thank you for your inputs Aramis.
So in your opinion it would be good if I started with Budapest,but I do not have convinient flights to land there.I have flights that land in Vienna at a good rate and so am opting to land in Vienna.I will be using public transport and will go for individual country passes(since the east european pass is working out more expensive)So in the light of what I have said,does my itenary make sense?The one change that I could make is go to Innsbruck from Vienna, then come to Salzburg and then go Budapest.(?)
It is a long trip for me and am trying to make a sensible plan.Thank you for all your inputs.

Palenque Feb 22nd, 2010 08:01 AM

will be using public transport and will go for individual country passes(since the east european pass is working out more expensive)>

Have you checked out the new Central Europe Triangle Pass - cheqper than Eastern europe pass - a triangle pass with two options

1- Vienna-budapest-Prague

2- Vienna-Salzburg-Prague

and then supplement it with individual tickets - not sure if of use but since it is new in 2010 i'd thought i'd throw it into the mix. I have to track down some pricing so i could know if it were a great deal or not

Palenque Feb 22nd, 2010 08:11 AM

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Palenque Feb 22nd, 2010 12:14 PM

Sorry for the above mix-up with something i wanted to post on another thread and thought i was.

savy4 Feb 23rd, 2010 04:28 AM

thank you palenque.


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