Starbucks Comes to Italy...

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Sep 14th, 2018, 04:31 AM
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Very insightful posts from Walkinaround. A pleasure to read. With my tea.
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Sep 14th, 2018, 05:08 AM
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without comment (from Business Insider Italia) - https://it.businessinsider.com/nient...bere-il-caffe/

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Sep 14th, 2018, 08:04 AM
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McDonalds tries to use local meat in their hamburgers not American. They orient their offering to Italians and probably the Americanism part is one reason of the lure. Again Starbucks is probably a totally different creature than Italian caffes and don't compete with them. And the 'fact' that average Italian caffes can make better coffee is just a lot of hot air IMO. It's not rocket science to hold the little thing with ground coffee beans under hot water to make espresso.
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Sep 14th, 2018, 01:35 PM
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It's not rocket science to hold the little thing with ground coffee beans under hot water to make espresso.

Same goes about wine, whisky. Yet some people will pay 200 000 € for one bottle and I can pay 5€ for another. Maybe there is here more than meets the eye. Just maybe.
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Sep 14th, 2018, 02:07 PM
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Well that's not a good parallel IMO at all - assuming Starbucks and Italian caffes have similar beans and roasted just fine yes what more can there be - with each having experienced baristas? Wine is aged for years sometimes and whisk(e)y is an elaborate process. Espresso yes just hold the grounds over steaming water and voila! and wine can be made in limited batches yes all coffees served up should be the same.
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Sep 15th, 2018, 03:26 AM
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PalenQ - similar beans, similar grapes etc. Stop showing your lack of taste ...
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Sep 15th, 2018, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by thibaut View Post
Bottom line of this thread seems to be that only US coffee is good enough.
And the world would be so much better if us Europeans would drop all pretence of saying our coffee is better or even made differently. We should eat T-bones (I read another stupid great comment from a US guy saying he never had as good a piece of meat in Europe as he has in the US), KFC chicken wings, McDo Hamburgers etc.
God Bless America.
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Sep 15th, 2018, 07:06 AM
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PalenQ - similar beans, similar grapes etc. Stop showing your lack of taste ...>

Well nothing about grapes but why can't McStarbucks use the exact same beans as the ordinary Italian caffe and roasted the same. Wine has many more nuances than coffee so not an apt comparison.
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Sep 15th, 2018, 07:41 AM
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PalenQ - coffee also has huge nuances but perhaps you do not have the palate. When in a hole ...
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Sep 15th, 2018, 08:28 AM
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And do you not think Starbucks is as capable as ordinary Italian caffes in brewing a good cuppa? Any proof of that?
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Sep 15th, 2018, 08:45 AM
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brewing a good cuppa? Any proof of that?

Based on your English you must be English or at least British. Second, you do NOT brew coffee.

Nuff said!
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Sep 15th, 2018, 08:52 AM
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Well what you say could work in Starbucks interests - maybe with all their buying power and claims to buy great beans maybe Starbucks, under your theory, may well produce better coffee than the standard Italian caffe - blinded to possibilities - indeed I would expect the world's largest coffee maker for cafes to at least produce as good a cup as the ordinary Italian caffe - what proof do you have they don't. And to taint your post with slurs...well that is in line with what you always do. Stick to facts. What facts do you have that Milan's new Starbucks doesn't produce great coffee? None - just hot air. but again Starbucks with their prices don't compete with ordinary caffes where folks tend to gulp for energy and not sit and do whatever many do in Starbucks inviting places.
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Sep 15th, 2018, 09:16 AM
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Oh PalenQ - you are really grasping ... and digging ever deeper
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Sep 15th, 2018, 09:30 AM
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Nice! Any proof Milan Starbucks doesn't make good coffee? Or just insults? I don't know if they do or not nor can you. Why can't Starbucks make as good espresso as Italian caffes? Answer that?

exactly what is your argument?
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Sep 15th, 2018, 09:39 AM
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IMO the only time I go to Starbucks while traveling is to use their bathrooms.....
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Sep 15th, 2018, 09:40 AM
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oh dear. you sound just like a democrat trying to defend the abuses of Hillary Clinton or a socialist trying to defend Jeremy Corbin
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Sep 15th, 2018, 09:53 AM
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silly PalenQ - going down the rabbit hole
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Sep 15th, 2018, 12:03 PM
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Ah yeah...going down for some good frappuccino followed by a D.O.C. cup of coffee.
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