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Old Jan 22nd, 2008, 08:37 PM
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Spain it is! Mother & daughter need fodor's Spain experts to help us with our last minute trip. We're just a little confused

My daughter and I are trying to plan a last minute trip--I leave this Saturday, DD is already in Brussels. After a little waffling between Spain and Italy we've decided on Spain.

We'll be in Paris for 8 - 9 days. Then we have another 13 - 14 days to spend in Spain. Then back in Paris for 2. I think we may be arriving at a crazy itinerary because of course, we want to see it all. We need our fodor friends to save us from ourselves!

February:
4 - night sleeper train to Barcelona (has anyone done this & did you like it?)
5 - Barcelona
6 - Barcelona
7 - Barcelona (Montserrat)
8 - Girona (rent a car)
9 - Tarragona
10 - return car, fly to Grenada
11 - Grenada
12 - (rent car, wander) Ubeda
13 - Sevilla
14 - Sevilla
15 - Sevilla
16 - Madrid
17 - Madrid
18 - fly to Paris
19 - Paris
20 - home

Please rearrange, cut and make suggestions. We had a change of plans - Kenya ... so this is unavoidably a last minute trip with little time to do my favorite thing - plan a trip. (But on the plus side, we have a good idea what the weather will be like.) Truly, we will welcome your help. Be as detailed as you like.

Oh - DD is 25, I'm very young , we like wandering around, seeing great art, interesting small towns, cathedrals, cafes, walking/hiking a lot. One of us likes night life. Usually we like to rent an apartment and stay a week to get to know a place.

Your advice so far has been terrific - now we need to figure out the details.

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Old Jan 22nd, 2008, 09:08 PM
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I would take a budget flight (Paris Orly to Girona) and start your trip on Girona. From there you can travel to Barcelona ( I think bus is used here). You can train easily to Tarragona from Barcelona. I guess I don't see the point of a car for one day in Girona and one day in Tarragona.

See www.whichbudget.com or www.skyscanner.net for budget flights.
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Old Jan 22nd, 2008, 09:16 PM
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Thanks kybourbon - Very helpful advice. And I see it's just under 50 eu Paris to Girona. Wow.

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Not sure when you are dropping off the car after Granada but it is unneeded in Sevilla. Please note Grenada is an island while Granada is in Spain.
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Old Jan 23rd, 2008, 01:44 AM
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try vueling.com for that budget flight cos ryanair will add on their own fees, and then you have to add the transport costs getting from girona-barcelona (20 euro return).
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also way2stay.com for Barcelona apartment
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Old Jan 23rd, 2008, 05:11 AM
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Hi all,

Yes, we'd definitely drop the car off at Seville. Do you think we need to rent a car for that portion or would a bus be just fine?

Is this the right number of days in various places?
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Old Jan 23rd, 2008, 06:13 AM
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The budget airlines have strict check-in and luggage policies. Be sure you are in compliance.
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Old Jan 23rd, 2008, 08:43 AM
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What are they strict about?
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Old Jan 23rd, 2008, 09:14 AM
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You definitely do not need a car for Sevilla, it is a great city to walk around and plus I would never, in a million years, want to navigate a car around the narrow, confusing streets. We stayed in Sevilla a few nights and then picked up our car at the train station. Take the AVE to Madrid from Sevilla, nice, relaxing, and only 2-3 hours.
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Old Jan 23rd, 2008, 04:28 PM
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bubblywine,
They're very strict about weight--DD had to pay overcharges that were more than her ticket for her luggage:-<
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Old Jan 23rd, 2008, 06:31 PM
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I would fly Paris - Barcelona on Vueling.
stay in Barcelona at least 4 days
fly to Granada ( Vueling again)
for 2 days , if you wish to rent a car for a drive to Seville ( stop in
Ubeda)
3 days in Seville . AVE train to Madrid
4 days in Madrid ( maybe a day trip to Toledo)

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Old Jan 23rd, 2008, 08:01 PM
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Thanks Danon - that's really helpful. So you'd recommend the 2 days we were thinking about in Tarragona and Girona in favor of Madrid and Andalucia?

I am very excited about the Prado.
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hi,
we found so much to see in both Barcelona and Madrid
Prado and other museums in Madrid are great so is the Palace , beatuful park Retiro, elegant district Salamanca etc.
Barcelona , to me, is like a mix of Paris and Nice with a twist .
We stayed 8 days and never left the city.
Granada is small but interesting - reserve tickets for Alhambra ahead of time .
I visited Seville long time ago , so I don't remember much except that I wish to go back ( next year) .
Sorry, I have never visited Tarragona and Girona so I cannot comment, but you may be rushing it a bit. Every time you change cities you lose half a day .(packing, checking out, getting to the airport,traveling, getting to the hotel.... you get the picture)
Some people don't mind moving around a lot and just getting a taste of different places.
It is your choice of course.

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Old Jan 23rd, 2008, 09:30 PM
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Hi Danon - thanks for the tip about the Alhambra. We'll do that.

The 10 day weather forecast looks very good.
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Make sure that you do a day trip from Seville to Cordoba, you really do not want to miss the Mesquita ( or the great food there) and it is easy to do from Seville.

Don't miss the flamenco in Seville and Granada.
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Another great side trip from Sevilla is Ronda. It has a huge gorge running through the city and is breathtaking. There's no train to the city, but there are buses (http://www.movelia.es). We've always driven. If you're looking for interesting hotels to stay in try a Parador (http://www.parador.es/english/). They are castles, monasteries and historical buildings turned into very nice hotels and restaurants. There's a beautiful one in Ronda. Make sure to check out the incredible discount they offer for people ages 20-30 (http://www.paradores-spain.com/offers/youngpersons.html). Only one guest needs to be under 30 for the discount. They also have a wonderful buffet breakfast included with the discount. Enjoy Spain. We love the country!
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Old Jan 24th, 2008, 02:49 AM
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There is train to Ronda, but not direct to Seville, you must change trains at Bobadilla. It is incomvenient and a waste of time, better to use the Bus.
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Old Jan 24th, 2008, 06:00 AM
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The Paradors do look lovely. The one I'd love to stay at - Granada - doesn't offer the young person rate. I'll keep looking - thanks for the information.

WTNow - Thanks. I've been wondering about Cordoba. I've also wanted to tell you how much I like your blog. I think we're going to Spain in part because of your reminders that Anadalucia is really lovely in winter. We traveled a lot when DD was 5 - spent a summer traveling through Mexico for instance - and your daughter reminds me of mine at that age.
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Old Jan 24th, 2008, 06:17 AM
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Hotel Girona in Barcelona looks very reasonable. They have 'interior' twin rooms and 'exterior' twin rooms. The difference is 12 eu. Does anyone know what that means? Does one have a street view and one an alley or something?
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