concern

Hello:<BR>I need to know if the guest room at Minerve hotel in Paris is equipped with a smoke detector or is it only at designated location?<BR>We are going to be staying there for the holidays with my two boys. My husband and I are planning to get up early and do the morning walk for couple of hours and let the boys sleep in and come back to have breakfast. <BR>If not equipped have you taken a battery operated one before? any suggestions?<BR>I appreciate the information.

XXX

You might contact the hotel with this question. They surely will know.

xxx

If your children are young you should not leave them alone in a hotel room without a babysitter. This is illegal in most countries, I don't know the age for France.

Tom

No matter what their age haul their little bods out of bed and get them out there to see the sights. You don't go to Paris to sleep in. You can leave the kids at home (with a smoke detector safely secured above their heads) if they are going to sleep away their trip.

Linda

Do a search for my post &quot;travel smoke detectors&quot;. Took me two hours of searching to find a place that sold them.

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Sue

I think you can find travel smoke alarms at www.magellans.com<BR><BR>I don't think the hotels I stay in over there have smoke alarms, and I try to deny the implications of that; probably a good idea to check it out and carry a portable, if not equipped.

Alice

My husband has spent a career in home and business security. We stay in 2** or 3*** star hotels. I just asked him if we needed a travel smoke detector - he answered that we have not yet stayed in a hotel with no smoke alarms, that he always checks. (8 trips, several cities, Paris often). But your hotel is the best place to get the information.

sorry

I had no idea there were such uptight people in the world. <BR><BR>Have you ever seen the &quot;Anal Retentive&quot; skits on SNL?<BR><BR>I'd gamble that the chances of injury due to hotel fire rank near those of injury due to train derailment.<BR><BR>Please go enjoy your holidays free of doom and gloom.

sstone

The sensible thing to do is not leave your children alone.<BR>The sensible thing to do is to take your own alarm if you are this worried about a fire in your hotel.<BR>While staying in a very good hotel in Mayfair, London, there was a small fire in the night. There were smoke alarms, and everyone had to leave their room and wait in the street until the fire department turned off the alarms and said we could go back in. With alarms or not, I would never leave children alone in a hotel in a strange country. <BR><BR>

Here

Dear sorry,<BR>Obviously, you do not read the newspapers or watch the news on television. An American family, felt safe and free from doom and gloom and died in a fire on a train in France. The reason being-No smoke detectors.<BR>Too bad the officials in France weren't more Anal about their fire safety.

sorry

Here,<BR>I'm aware of the tragedies in the world...I just choose not to let them impede my life.<BR>Next week there will be another story in the news that will get you good folks in a tizzy about another 1 in a billion possibility of harm.<BR>My point is, simply, don't lose your focus on reality. Enjoy your lives.

xxx

I may be a little confused, but I thought the people who just died in that train were in the two German cars. All the people in the French cars were safe.

Al Godon

I don't get this at all. Does concern travel with two fire bugs for kids?<BR>Or is she just too permissive to get their lazy butts out of bed? Or what?<BR>I mean, she goes off and leaves to kids alone? What kind of parenting is that?<BR>Typical American neglectful parents it sounds like to me.<BR><BR>I have stayed in many hotels in Europe over the years and I'll be darned if I know if they have a fire detector or not.<BR><BR>If the problem is that acute, perhaps concerned should ask if there is a fire escape. Most French hotels I have seen have nothing of the sort.<BR>There was one stair case in the hotel where I last stayed, and the one before that, and the one before that.<BR><BR>I don't know of a single hotel in Europe, except the London Tara, that had a fire escape.<BR>It did, but the door at the bottom was locked!! A grease fire in the kitchen started the darn alarm buzzing and my wife and son went down the fire escape stair well. When they got to the bottom, the door was bolted. Some fire escape. Fortunately there was no major fire involved.<BR>So perhaps concerned has another question or two to ask?

Patrick

I'm amazed by the &quot;poor parenting&quot; slams from people who don't know any of the facts. I'm picturing a couple with two teenage boys sharing a quad room. Perhaps the parents love to get up and walk from 6 to 8 AM, some well-deserved quality time together, touring the early morning markets and having some coffee together -- something the boys hate to do. Meanwhile the teenagers who are perhaps old enough to be on their own for a couple of hours enjoy the extra hour or so of sleep and also appreciate a little privacy of their own while showering and getting dressed. When the parents come back at 8, the whole family is ready to go out and do some sightseeing together. This is not what I call poor parenting, but good and logical traveling activity.<BR><BR>Of course, I have no more facts than the rest of you, but my idea is just as logical as yours. Wouldn't it be nice to assume that &quot;concern&quot; knows what she's doing with her own kids?

D'accord

Right on, Patrick; my thoughts exactly.

simple

But, Patrick, they are on a trip to Europe! So what if the kids are two lazy ass teens and the parents are up and raring to go! If they are dragging the kids to Europe with them, then they should all at least be able to get up and do things together. And if her &quot;concern&quot; is about fire, then don't leave the kids alone, asleep in a hotel room where they know no one and could be alone if there were a fire! <BR>These things seem so simple to some and such mindbenders for others. That is what I don't 'get'!

x

if concern had a clue she would not be asking about this on a travel forum.

Patrick

Well, what I don't get is how people can determine that if a kid wants to sleep a full 8 hours a night, that makes him a lazy ass -- no one said how long these kids are sleeping.<BR>And the other thing I don't get is why some think it is so awful for an adult couple to want a few minutes alone to enjoy their vacation. I'm not talking about fastening two year olds to the radiator here, I'm just assuming that if the kids are old enough, why shouldn't the parents be allowed to have a little private time?

simple

I guess it it something you have to have had the experience with Patrick.<BR> <BR>But, regardless of age, why take children with you, when you want to be alone? If they are taking two kids with them, then they should know that for that week, they will all be together and they might have to give up a few of their favorite things, like taking a walk without the kids. <BR>As in that train tragedy, you never know when something will happen, and I sure as hell would not leave two children alone, asleep in a hotel while I go for a walk.<BR>Of course, that is just me, but since this was posted on a public forum, there you have it.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR ><BR>