Should we cut Venice out of our itinerary??
Oct 1st, 2012, 09:44 PM
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Should we cut Venice out of our itinerary??
Considering cutting Venice out of our honeymoon itinerary for October 2013...
We only have 9 nights between Switzerland, Milan (both which can't be taken out of the itinerary) and Venice and although I would like to go to Venice, would it be better we stay in 2 rather than 3 locations (start of a 4 week honeymoon after a long haul flight).
Although I would like to go, because of the uniqueness of Venice and because it is meant to be romantic, I am worried it will just be tiring!
Will we regret cutting it out?
We only have 9 nights between Switzerland, Milan (both which can't be taken out of the itinerary) and Venice and although I would like to go to Venice, would it be better we stay in 2 rather than 3 locations (start of a 4 week honeymoon after a long haul flight).
Although I would like to go, because of the uniqueness of Venice and because it is meant to be romantic, I am worried it will just be tiring!
Will we regret cutting it out?
Oct 1st, 2012, 11:34 PM
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It is, IMHO, the most unique, beautiful and romantic place I've ever been, and still feel that way after six visits. Keep in mind it is a personal bias and others may not see it that way. Why it would be the last thing I would cut is because no words are adequate to describe Venice. The whole little city is a masterpeice. It would be my first place to keep. Choice between Milan and Venice - no competition: four days Venice - one day Milan or just skip Milan, but you said it was locked in. I guess what I am trying to say about the four weeks is that I can't imagine having four weeks in Europe and actually being Italy, and leaving out Venice, yet seeing Milan, especially on your honemoon and if it is your first trip to Italy.
Luckily, you have plenty of time to think and re-think your plans and come up with what is perfect for you.
Luckily, you have plenty of time to think and re-think your plans and come up with what is perfect for you.
Oct 2nd, 2012, 02:47 AM
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I think it is funny that people are telling you how you will feel and what you should do.
You can read up on Venice. There are, in fact, "words to describe it" which will give you a very good idea of whether you will regret going there when you are exhausted or would rather see it no matter what. A great many people do not enjoy Venice and are even disappointed by their visit there. (Obviously, the same is true of Switzerland and Milan.) I certainly don't find it romantic, or a place where I would simply want to relax and enjoy intimacy with one other person. The place has become like a theme park.
Like Sassafrass says, the answers you get will be personal bias, based on other people's idiosyncratic reactions. And Venice is one of the few destinations where people will actually pressure you to go, even after you've raised legitimate worries about whether you will have their experience of Venice. Don't ask me why they do this, but they do it repeatedly, and they are less concerned about your honeymoon and how you and your wife will feel than they are about getting a chance to be go into a swoon about Venice on the internet.
Find another way to make your decision based on another discussion with your fiancee about the things you like to do. Switzerland and Venice are very different places, and many people who go to Venice six or seven times would NEVER go to Switzerland. Nothing about Switzerland attracts them. So maybe they don't understand you and your wife-to-be. You can always go back to Europe and see Venice. You can't have another honeymoon, so pick for yourselves.
Have a great honeymoon!
You can read up on Venice. There are, in fact, "words to describe it" which will give you a very good idea of whether you will regret going there when you are exhausted or would rather see it no matter what. A great many people do not enjoy Venice and are even disappointed by their visit there. (Obviously, the same is true of Switzerland and Milan.) I certainly don't find it romantic, or a place where I would simply want to relax and enjoy intimacy with one other person. The place has become like a theme park.
Like Sassafrass says, the answers you get will be personal bias, based on other people's idiosyncratic reactions. And Venice is one of the few destinations where people will actually pressure you to go, even after you've raised legitimate worries about whether you will have their experience of Venice. Don't ask me why they do this, but they do it repeatedly, and they are less concerned about your honeymoon and how you and your wife will feel than they are about getting a chance to be go into a swoon about Venice on the internet.
Find another way to make your decision based on another discussion with your fiancee about the things you like to do. Switzerland and Venice are very different places, and many people who go to Venice six or seven times would NEVER go to Switzerland. Nothing about Switzerland attracts them. So maybe they don't understand you and your wife-to-be. You can always go back to Europe and see Venice. You can't have another honeymoon, so pick for yourselves.
Have a great honeymoon!
Oct 2nd, 2012, 03:00 AM
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Sorry! I just realized I was assuming you were a man. Not asking you to tell which. (I'm a woman, in case you'd like to know the gender of people giving you advice.)
If your concern is this:
" I am worried it will just be tiring!"
then discuss with your fiance how you both react to jet lag. Are you doing this right after a big wedding? I know more than several honeymooning couples who rejected the idea of going to Paris or Venice or doing anything but a scenic destination after their wedding because they so much just wanted to relax, sleep in, and be someplace in nature, not around man-made things. And they don't want to switch hotels a lot.
Are you concerned that you will feel obliged to get out of bed and go sightsee all day in Venice? Get a gudebook or look at Wikitravel to see if you think you might feel that way. Some people go to Venice and take no interest in anything except taking pictuers and shopping and eating, and they just love "being" in the antique lagoon city.
If you were imagining your honeymoon as being secluded, Venice can get pretty crowded, but in October, it will be less bad. If you were picking Milan to go dancing, you've got the right idea. You won't find it in Venice, or anything very youthful there.
Also ask yourself and your fiance whether, if you decide to keep Venice in the plan, if you get there and it is raining heavily, you will regret it. Would you like your first trip to Venice to be about Venice, and your honeymoon to mainly be about each other?
You have time to decide between the two of you. Good practice working things out without involving other people when it comes to being married!
If your concern is this:
" I am worried it will just be tiring!"
then discuss with your fiance how you both react to jet lag. Are you doing this right after a big wedding? I know more than several honeymooning couples who rejected the idea of going to Paris or Venice or doing anything but a scenic destination after their wedding because they so much just wanted to relax, sleep in, and be someplace in nature, not around man-made things. And they don't want to switch hotels a lot.
Are you concerned that you will feel obliged to get out of bed and go sightsee all day in Venice? Get a gudebook or look at Wikitravel to see if you think you might feel that way. Some people go to Venice and take no interest in anything except taking pictuers and shopping and eating, and they just love "being" in the antique lagoon city.
If you were imagining your honeymoon as being secluded, Venice can get pretty crowded, but in October, it will be less bad. If you were picking Milan to go dancing, you've got the right idea. You won't find it in Venice, or anything very youthful there.
Also ask yourself and your fiance whether, if you decide to keep Venice in the plan, if you get there and it is raining heavily, you will regret it. Would you like your first trip to Venice to be about Venice, and your honeymoon to mainly be about each other?
You have time to decide between the two of you. Good practice working things out without involving other people when it comes to being married!
Oct 2nd, 2012, 03:51 AM
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Just to clarify my gender, I'm male.
I struggle to think of Milan as honeymoon material. I could think of Switzerland as honeymoon material if I could think of anywhere romantic in the country, possibly the countryside around Mont Blanc, straw farms etc. Venice on the other hand is a unique experience, with fine views, a constantly changing vista and apart from restaurants some of whom are rip-off merchants (but not all by any means).
Now this whole thing about finding Venice tiring. Well there can be a bit of walking, but what else were you going to do in Switzerland? And Venice has taxis and public transport just about everywhere, while Switzerland has a lower density of buses and trains.
I'm with foodor, though I don't claim to know what god dreams...
I struggle to think of Milan as honeymoon material. I could think of Switzerland as honeymoon material if I could think of anywhere romantic in the country, possibly the countryside around Mont Blanc, straw farms etc. Venice on the other hand is a unique experience, with fine views, a constantly changing vista and apart from restaurants some of whom are rip-off merchants (but not all by any means).
Now this whole thing about finding Venice tiring. Well there can be a bit of walking, but what else were you going to do in Switzerland? And Venice has taxis and public transport just about everywhere, while Switzerland has a lower density of buses and trains.
I'm with foodor, though I don't claim to know what god dreams...
Oct 2nd, 2012, 04:24 AM
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I,too, am mystified that you can't find time in a 4 week trip to include Venice for 3 or 4 days. You have explained that you have to be in Switzerland and Milan but having visited all 3 locations, I suggest considering minimizing time in Switzerland and Milan to fit in time for Venice.
As lorettajung so forcefully opines, it is funny that people are telling you what you should do. No, they aren't. They are telling you what they would do. As you requested. Only you can decide. Enjoy your honeymoon.
As lorettajung so forcefully opines, it is funny that people are telling you what you should do. No, they aren't. They are telling you what they would do. As you requested. Only you can decide. Enjoy your honeymoon.
Oct 2nd, 2012, 04:37 AM
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bilboburger,
They are flying into Milan. It's unavoidable. They need to rest.
I think all of you not only claim to know what "god" dreams, you have the even worse arrogance to pretend to know what somebody else should do on their honeymoon. I can think of plenty, plenty to do on a honeymoon than walk.
I guess none of you knowledgeable, well-traveled people have ever bumped into the people who were so disappointed in Venice, maybe just because it is so oversold. I wonder if you have even read all those posts by Venice lovers who swear up and down that the WORST introduction to Venice is a short visit, jet-lagged.
Rainy day in Venice jet-lagged? Give me the pristine air of the unspoiled Alps.
keedm02,
You've asked a question for which there is no factual answer. Such questions attract gurus -- so watch out!
They are flying into Milan. It's unavoidable. They need to rest.
I think all of you not only claim to know what "god" dreams, you have the even worse arrogance to pretend to know what somebody else should do on their honeymoon. I can think of plenty, plenty to do on a honeymoon than walk.
I guess none of you knowledgeable, well-traveled people have ever bumped into the people who were so disappointed in Venice, maybe just because it is so oversold. I wonder if you have even read all those posts by Venice lovers who swear up and down that the WORST introduction to Venice is a short visit, jet-lagged.
Rainy day in Venice jet-lagged? Give me the pristine air of the unspoiled Alps.
keedm02,
You've asked a question for which there is no factual answer. Such questions attract gurus -- so watch out!
Oct 2nd, 2012, 04:56 AM
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Lorettajung If you visited Venice with one those tour groups, being herded around like sheep for a few hours and then left the city, then yeah thats the impression you'd get
Some of us choose remote hotel and apartment far from San Marco or Rialto and stay for days or even weeks.
By the way, I'm in Venice right now for a week, my 4th visit here
Some of us choose remote hotel and apartment far from San Marco or Rialto and stay for days or even weeks.
By the way, I'm in Venice right now for a week, my 4th visit here
Oct 2nd, 2012, 06:03 AM
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Well, I like Venice AND Switzerland. And both more than Milan. I would take time from Milan, if possible, to have longer in Venice. And when I was IN Venice, I'd be wandering around the back streets and taking the boat to the islands, rather than fighting the crowds around St. Marks and the Rialto. There will be crowds there, there were crowds there in November, but it was whisper quiet elsewhere.
@Lorettajung - I see you are new here. Perhaps you could keep quiet and read for a while. Then you will discover that all anyone can post is their own opinion - aside from stuff about train times and hotel costs.
@Lorettajung - I see you are new here. Perhaps you could keep quiet and read for a while. Then you will discover that all anyone can post is their own opinion - aside from stuff about train times and hotel costs.
Oct 2nd, 2012, 06:18 AM
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October is not the best time for Switzerland. It's between seasons; no snow yet. Some hotels close; they do maintenance on the lifts, etc.
I'm on the Venice bandwagon. It's one of the most beautiful cities in the world. More beautiful than the photos. Venice itself is the main sight to see, and the most appropriate sight-seeing there is wandering around getting lost. Not too strenuous for exhausted honeymooners.
So I agree with the majority of posters. Minimize your time in Milan in particular (not a relaxing place) and don't omit Venice.
I'm on the Venice bandwagon. It's one of the most beautiful cities in the world. More beautiful than the photos. Venice itself is the main sight to see, and the most appropriate sight-seeing there is wandering around getting lost. Not too strenuous for exhausted honeymooners.
So I agree with the majority of posters. Minimize your time in Milan in particular (not a relaxing place) and don't omit Venice.
Oct 2nd, 2012, 07:06 AM
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thursdaysd, she is not a new poster, just using a new screen name. Perhaps the editors know why.
keedm002, what exactly is your itinerary in those first 9 days? Does your long-haul flight land in Milan, or are you transitting through Milan on the way to the next destination of your itinerary? Or is there another reason why Milan can't be removed?
FWIW, I like Milan more than most on this board and am not as crazy about Venice, but on a honeymoon I'd much rather be in Venice. No contest.
keedm002, what exactly is your itinerary in those first 9 days? Does your long-haul flight land in Milan, or are you transitting through Milan on the way to the next destination of your itinerary? Or is there another reason why Milan can't be removed?
FWIW, I like Milan more than most on this board and am not as crazy about Venice, but on a honeymoon I'd much rather be in Venice. No contest.
