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Originally Posted by ronaldmaurice
(Post 17593792)
Inverness to Edinburgh in 5-6 days drivingWhere to stop along the way for the night. Pitlochry/Perth??Thanks
Originally Posted by ronaldmaurice
(Post 17593795)
Add Aviemore as potential stop on route Inverness to Edinburgh 5-6 day driving trip/
OK -- please clarify. Is this just you needing to get from Inverness to Edinburgh and assuming down the A9 through Aviemore/PitlochryPerth is the best option? If I had 5 or 6 days free to travel from the north down to Edinburgh -- that is not the route I would take. Nice enough scenery but its sort of hard to explain . . . it is much of a muchness. Similar mountain scenery for most of the route. Perth is a nice city with Scone Palace. I personally avoid Pitlochry unless I'm attending the theatre. If it was me I'd go east -- Grantown-on-Spey > Ballater/Deeside/the Castle Trail/Balmoral > Crathes/Stonehaven/Dunnottar > Glamis Castle > Fife/St Andrews/the fishing villages > Edinbrugh. This is a total drive of only about 250 miles (plus various short detours) and would be a fabulous 5 or 6 days. I'd stay maybe 2 nights in Ballater, maybe one night near Glamis (Forfar perhaps) just for convenience, and 2 nights in Fife -- Crail or Anstruther. If you have 6 nights -- then add a night to either Ballater or Fife. Amazing castles, pretty rivers, Dunnottar which is worth the hike, Glamis, St Andrews and beautiful fishing villages like Crail, Falkland Palace. |
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This is the last leg of our trip from Inverness to Edinburgh.thank you Janis i had not really researched the options.we have 5-6 days to make the trip before 2-3 days in Edinburgh and our journey home to the west of Canada
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5 or 6 days would be a terrific/leisurely jaunt through Deeside (Ballater/Castle Trail), Dunnottar, Glamis and Fife and end with an easy drive back to EDI.
I'd drop the car at the airport and take the tram, airport coach, or a taxi depending on exactly where you are staying in Edinburgh. Much easier than driving IN Edinburgh proper. |
Have you thought at all about not going to Inverness initially, after Skye and say, heading to Torridon /Applecross for a few days? Different scenery again to Skye , more west coast splendour.Driving however involves single track roads in places and going over the Bealach na Ba hill pass (not essential) might be a mountain road too far.
Otherwise the eastern route works well if some stunning castles appeal...Crashes, Craigievar and Drum with gorgeous gardens/grounds.Dunnotar on the coast is a wow. Falkland Palace, Culross further south after or before the attractive fishing villages mentioned would be on my travel plan with that amount of time. I actually enjoy the sights on the A9 south...the Aviemore offers lovely Cairngorm scenery, short waterfall walks lie behind House of Bruar( Harrods of the Highlands),Blair Castle is a beauty. I like Pitlochry with its nice lochside walks, Dunkeld is a wee delight(possibly the best bakery in Scotland, the Aran Bakery). Tons of choice! |
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I( thought Inverness would be a good stop to see Culloden and Loch ness.Any advice
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i have added Torridon for a few days to our itinerary
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OK -- Loch Ness is just there . . . you can hardly miss it if you are in the general Skye / Inverness area. It is the 'famous' one that most visitors just assume is a 'must-see'. But it is FAR from the most scenic loch - probably not in the top 25 or 30. Does have a nice castle on the west shore (Urquhart) which is worth a stop. But no -- IMO Loch Ness isn't worth a focus of a leg of one's trip.
Culloden on the other hand is a must iMO -- especially if one is interested in the '45 (which was really 1745 and 1746). I took a couple of friends on a 5 week trip around Scotland - for one it was all about the golf -- the other was a MacDonald and for him it was 50% the golf and 50% sightseeing. When I got them to Culloden the one was bored silly. The other . . . after viewing the film in the visitors centre (which I think has been changed since my last visit) and then 'accidentally' coming across the MacDonald headstone out on the battlefield he sat down and cried. |
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Finally got our provisional itinerary together 27 nights in total
GLASGOW 3 nights arriving 3pm from Canada via london OBAN 1-2 nights MULL 3 nights IONA GLENCOE 1 night MALAIG one night ferry to ARMADALE SKYE 3 nights in PORTREE road bridge off SKYE PLOCKTON 2 nights TORRIDON 2 nights GRANTOWN ON SPEY ONE NIGHT BALLATER 2 nights FORFAR one night CRAIL OR ANSTRUTHER 2 NIGHTS CULROSS 1 night EDINBURGH 3 nights WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS ITINERARY/ IDEALLY WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO GO TO HARRIS AND LEWIS AS WELL BUT NOT THIS TIME |
I haven't analyzed the full plan -- but it generally looks good. One thing that jumps out at me though . . . there is no reason (at all) to stay a night in Mallaig. That would be a sort of 'throw away'. You could add that extra night to either Skye or to Grantown-on-Spey.
And instead of a night in Culross . . . I'd stay 3 nights in Crail (there is a LOT to see and do in Fife) and visit Culross on the easy drive to Edinburgh. |
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I will drop mallaig and culross stay an extra night in crail although anstruther gets a better recommendation and take one night in stirling before getting to edinburgh
that gives me my 27 night trip |
Either Anstrurher or Crail would be absolutely fine. Crail has the prettier harbor - Anstruther has an iconic fish & chips shop, the Fisheries Museum, and boat trips out to the Isle of May (Puffins! :) )
Surprising you say Anstruther has the better recommendations though -- which website are you checking ?? Crail is the one you see in every coffee table photo book or on Fife post cards. Anstruher is more than twice the size of Crail and does get a bit more congested just because of the street layout. Any of the fishing villages including Pittenweem, Cellardyke, St Monans, etc would be OK too. I'd just go with whichever property you find appealing. Crail is the more 'popular' of the villages but all are fine. OK -- instead of up and moving hotels again consider this idea. Check out and leave Anstruther or Crail or wherever right after breakfast - and 45 miles/about 1 hour later you are in Culross. Spend a couple of hours exploring the village. Then from Culross it is less than 20 miles/30 minutes and you are parking in the Stirling Castle car park. Spend all afternoon exploring the castle. Then 30 miles/45 minutes later you are dropping the car at EDI (by far the easiest place to drop a rental car) and take the tram or a taxi into Edinburgh. |
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Thanks Janis for the update good advice.What/where is EDI??
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Originally Posted by ronaldmaurice
(Post 17594250)
Thanks Janis for the update good advice.What/where is EDI??
Oh - sorry. EDI is the code for Edinburgh Airport which is a bit west of Edinburgh. It would be the easiest place to drop a car and has good transit options into the central city. Driving IN Edinburgh itself is best avoided if possible |
Lewis and Harris! The latter in particular is stunning as are some parts of Lewis which also excels in superb archaeological sites.In a future visit, these islands combine well with the Stornoway- Ullapool crossing , allowing you to go on to explore the magnificent NW Highlands.
Next year’s itinerary however is looking good.Just some points: Not sure what your plans are with two nights in Plockton.Lovely wee place and well worth a stop but unless the plan is to venture from there as a base and explore further afield ( eg up Glen Shiel for a look, perhaps over the Mam Ratagan pass to Glenelg and right down to Corran) the village can easily be visited as you head for Torridon. It’s very near Skye, 5 miles of winding detour after the Skye Bridge. Forfar- I was going to ask whether there was a particular interest re its inclusion but see it’s linked to Janisj’s Glamis recommendation.Wonderful castle.Lot of Pictish sites (if of interest) not too far away from there (as there are in Aberdeenshire too.) Agree with saving a night in Mallaig and adding it elsewhere. Falkland Palace may be of interest too within the very pretty old village of the same name. Culross is quite something but easily explored(it’s tiny) en route as suggested rather than devoting a whole overnight to it. Torridon is out of this world for scenery…get booking re accommodation asap.I can comment on accommodation if that helps once you have selected some as I know the area very well. |
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some information on accomodation in torridon or nearby would be useful.I see the torridon hotel looks impressive but above our budget.Thanks
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Check booking.com and Airbnb, Ronald and see what's available that suits your budget in the little villages of Torridon, Shieldaig, Applecross.I would add that the latter is a good 1hr - 90 min drive away from Torridon itself.It's a glorious situation ( it all is round that wider area) with an excellent pub and also a Walled Garden restaurant.
The Torridon has gone nuts re prices (though most places have) but does also offer smart accommodation in their converted Stables units rather than the main hotel itself.We usually take a self catering place for 3/4 days or a week.Self catering places are more commonly available though in peak season ,for at least 3/4 nights or most likely one week. Torridon House is a lovely property but it was taken over a few years back and now does B&B but it has never had great reviews so I'd avoid( as you probably would anyway.) |
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Thanks Scotland Mac I think we are considering Shieldaig as opposed to Torridon and staying at Shieldaig lodge any opinions.
Also looking at Mull seems there is limited choice for our budget already for June.Any recommendations?We are thinking of staying 3 nights with a day trip to Iona.. Another consideration before booking our accomodation is whether in some places we have to stay a minimum of 2 nights as it will determine our ongoing itinerary. Really looking forward to enjoying your beautiful country |
If they have availability I highly recommend this place in Fionnphort. Great breakfasts, views across to Iona Abbey, next door to the Keel Row pub and easy walk to the foot ferry and the Creel Seafood Bar which has fabulous food.
https://iona-bed-breakfast-mull.com |
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Thanks Janis the Seaview on Mull looks pretty inviting.
Another thought is could we leave the car in Oban take the ferry to Mull and stay at Seaview and take bus trips or a guided tour of Mull or are we better to take the car across?We cannot take the car to iona which was another possibilty.Thanks |
Shieldaig Lodge is actually about an hour away from Torridon itself and not in the small village of Shieldaig itself! However, it is in a lovely situation and also gives you the chance to explore around Gairloch as well as - with that hour's albeit beautiful drive - Applecross and Torridon.That said you can also drive through each of these places after Skye so you could enjoy them a little at that point, though I'd always recommend more time than that - if possible.Then you have your night outside Gairloch at the Lodge.
You have a couple of options re driving to Shieldaig Lodge from Skye/Lochcarron. From that accommodation you also have other options for heading back , eventually, to Grantown on Spey.Most direct is via Loch Maree and Achnasheen. Longer but offering a wonderful coastal drive is to head north via Dundonnell and Corrieshalloch Gorge/Braemore Junction.I'd just caution you however to consider - as I'm sure you will - your whole trip as that would involve a considerable add on to the areas you will be exploring, taking you further north and west. Mull - we have stayed in Caol Ila and found it excellent.It's a hop and a sip away from Seaview which looks really nice too. You'd be more flexible taking the car if you want to go on and explore more of Mull.There is a day trip from Oban which has you picking up the bus at Craignure where the ferry docks, being taken the 1 hour or so's journey to Fionnphort for the Iona ferry and giving you time on Iona itself before heading back. Fionnphort itself is in a beautiful part of Mull but it's a long way south and west and single track roads predominate on Mull so travel is slow.It could be that a night in Tobermory might be more comfortable after your night opposite Iona allowing you to slowly enjoy the wonderful scenery as you head to the pretty wee town, always buzzing.Two single night's accommodation, another consideration. |
No -- I personally would 100% (actually 10000000%) not leave the car in Oban and hope to visit Mull by public transport. I would only try to do Mull by bus if I simply couldn't drive.
Most people stay in Tobermory if for no other reason, simply because that is where 80% of the accommodation on he island are . . . You would be driving those single track roads no matter where you stay. So neither is more convenient than the other time wise. I like Tobermory but of my 4 stays on Mull I've stayed there once and in Fionnphort twice (and once in another more remote place). I prefer Fionnphort mostly because of the foot ferry to Iona and being nearer / shorter boat trip to Staffa. Plus I really enjoyed Seaview. Either Tobermory or Fionnphort would be fine. The driving is slow to/from both places - no difference there. Tobermory is a shorter drive to the Craignure ferry and Calgary Bay but a longer drive to some of my favorite places on the island. |
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sCOTLAND MAC IS IT APPLECROSS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE PUB AND WALLED GARDEN??
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Scotland mac can you recommend some lodging around torridon please
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Is it worth spending a day going to Dornoch from Inverness and Tain for the Glenmorrangie distillery.How long does it take to get there from Inverness?
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Originally Posted by ronaldmaurice
(Post 17595164)
Is it worth spending a day going to Dornoch from Inverness and Tain for the Glenmorrangie distillery.How long does it take to get there from Inverness?
Dornoch Cathedral is interesting and the golf course is one of the best in the world. But on a semi-rushed itinerary (your month is rapidly filling up) maybe not worth the time investment. As for Glenmorangie . . . Honestly every distillery tour is pretty much like every other distillery tour. Unless Glenmorangie is the only single malt you drink -- I wouldn't. Visit any one distillery that is convenient during your touring -- Oban, or Tobermory, or Talisker, or Macallan or Glenfiddich or or or . . . and then to sample other single malts do it in pubs or at the Whisky centre in Edinburgh. |
You could try the Alltan Annexe in Shieldaig…never stayed but passed by it often.
Also Rechullin Cottage in Torridon/Inveralligin which I’ve stayed in several times.The owner usually looks for a minimum three nights but it’s worth checking if you put in the dates.Some places have not opened their bookings that far ahead and are showing unavailable at present. Have you check out The Stables accommodation which is part of the Torridon Hotel? (5 star luxury but these units are cheaper though still pricey.) You take breakfast in the hotel which is a major meal in itself.Fab location. The Taigh an Eilean Hotel in Shieldaig is very nice, again pricey but worth a look.Lovely location too right by the shore in the pretty village. |
Meant to add…my idea of Tobermory was as a second night stay.Travelling to Fionnphort on Day 1 from Oban, about an hour minimum on that single track road.Beautiful scenery.You could also stop before that once off the ferry at Craignure and have a coffee and home made cake (usually a great choice) in Arlene’s Coffee shop near the pier.
There is free parking at Fionnphort, signposted on the left.Spend what time you wish on Iona…seeing the Abbey, Nunnery, perhaps a stroll out to the dazzling white sands beaches of North End or simply check out some of the quite pretty wee shops /craft outlets along the quiet road.Lunch or a coffee/cake stop at the lovely Argyll Hotel, hopefully sitting out in it garden overlooking the turquoise Sound of Iona.There is also the Staffa trip potentially, absolutely wonderful , to see Fingal’s Cave(and possibly, puffins if you are up to the walk.) It would make for a relaxing day to spend that night in Fionnphort before next day, you slowly explore the route over to Loch na Keal and up the north western coast up to Calgary Beach.This area is formally designated as one of Scotland’s Top 40 ‘Most Scenic Areas.’ Then on to Tobermory for the night.Staying there means you are not backtracking the considerable distance to the far south west of the island at Fionnphort. |
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What about staying in Gairloch close to beautiful loch maree ? the loch maree hotel??
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Is it possible to get from Mull to fort William to pick up the steam train to Mallaig return trip in the morning and catch the afternoon train or should we stay in Fort William overnight??
Second question when hotels/b and bs show unavailable for dates next June is it because they are booked already or that they have not posted availability? |
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How long does it take to drive from Fionnphort on Mull up to Calgary on to Tobermory and down to Craignure for the ferry and from Oban to Fort William without rushing the trip??
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Originally Posted by ronaldmaurice
(Post 17595266)
How long does it take to drive from Fionnphort on Mull up to Calgary on to Tobermory and down to Craignure for the ferry and from Oban to Fort William without rushing the trip??
That would be a very (very) long drive and you would have absolutely no time to walk on Calgary sands or explore Tobermory or see anything other than through the windscreen. JUST the drive from Fionnphort to Tobermory along the west coast of the Isle is a 3+ hour drive. Fionnphort to Ft William via Calgary Bay and Tobermory is a 7 hour drive if you are lucky. There is absolutely no rushing/quick drives on Mull - none. I personally would NOT try to do the Jacobite train. Sure the scenery is great and sure there is the old train vibe and all . . . BUT it takes about 6 hours round trip. The 'romance' pretty much disappears on the return trip. |
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thanks Janis If we omitted the Jacobite train and went from Fionnphort on Mull to fort William and stayed overnight there how long would it take including the ferry?
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Originally Posted by ronaldmaurice
(Post 17595274)
thanks Janis If we omitted the Jacobite train and went from Fionnphort on Mull to fort William and stayed overnight there how long would it take including the ferry?
With or without visiting Tobermory? Do you mean JUST driving straight from Fionnphort to Ft William?? If so, that is about a 4 hour drive assuming your timing is right for the ferry (again - without any stops). The drive could take longer especially on weekends. I am curious why Ft William figures so prominently in your plans? It really isn't a 'destination'. |
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Thanks Janis.We would only stay in Fort William for the train but that is off the initerary now.
2 questions can we drive to Mull in one day from Glasgow or should we overnight in Oban?We will stay at Seaview in Fionnphort. We are thinking of taking the ferry from tobermory to Ardamurchan so we dont have to drive from seaview to tobermory to craignure for the ferry.Then drive up to Mallaig and take the ferry to Armadale.how long would this take?We will stay in either Portree or Broadford.Any suggestions/ |
Originally Posted by ronaldmaurice
(Post 17595281)
Thanks Janis.We would only stay in Fort William for the train but that is off the initerary now.
2 questions can we drive to Mull in one day from Glasgow or should we overnight in Oban?We will stay at Seaview in Fionnphort. We are thinking of taking the ferry from tobermory to Ardamurchan so we dont have to drive from seaview to tobermory to craignure for the ferry.Then drive up to Mallaig and take the ferry to Armadale.how long would this take?We will stay in either Portree or Broadford.Any suggestions/ You can certainly drive from Glasgow (you'd want to collect the car out at the airport) to Oban to Mull . . . its about a 3 to 4 hour drive. BUT if you want to do any sightseeing like Invereray or Kilmaryin or Oban itself - then you'd want to stay over night in Oban. If Portree or Broadford are the only two places you are considering -- make it Portree for sure. You might also consider Sligachan. No town there but it is in the best location on the island for touring because it is sort of on the main crossroad so it is easy yo get to any part of Skye. I definitely think the ferry from Tobermory to Kilchoan and driving across to Mallaig/Skye is a great option -- bearing in mind that would eliminate Ft William and the train (which I'd eliminate myself in any case) |
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Is it possible to drive Glasgow to Mull in one day or should we overnight in Oban?
secondly is it possible to get from Mull to Skye without overnighting on the way?That is one days travel or are we rushing? |
Originally Posted by ronaldmaurice
(Post 17595332)
Is it possible to drive Glasgow to Mull in one day or should we overnight in Oban?
secondly is it possible to get from Mull to Skye without overnighting on the way?That is one days travel or are we rushing? there is no reason one would need to stop over night between Mull and Skye no matter which route you took |
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Thanks Janis.I dont know if i want to start out my driving holiday with a 4 hour trip from glasgow to Mull without a break along the way.Secondly driving Mull to Skye in one day while doable am I rushing it?
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Originally Posted by ronaldmaurice
(Post 17595342)
Thanks Janis.I dont know if i want to start out my driving holiday with a 4 hour trip from glasgow to Mull without a break along the way.Secondly driving Mull to Skye in one day while doable am I rushing it?
You asked if you could drive Glasgow to Mull in one day -- I tried to explain that it is totally doable, but depends on your plans. From post #75 above "You can certainly drive from Glasgow (you'd want to collect the car out at the airport) to Oban to Mull . . . its about a 3 to 4 hour drive. BUT if you want to do any sightseeing like Invereray or Kilmartin or Oban itself - then you'd want to stay over night in Oban." Mull to Skye in one day without a break is not rushing things. |
Originally Posted by ronaldmaurice
(Post 17595259)
What about staying in Gairloch close to beautiful loch maree ? the loch maree hotel??
Re driving from Glasgow to Mull - don't do it in one day, as already advised. We always give ourselves 3 hours to get from the city to Oban - that's WITHOUT stops.There is SO much to enjoy on that route once you get to Loch Lomond so I'd definitely take a day for the drive and either stay in Oban overnight especially for an early ferry or somewhere like Inveraray for the shorter drive next day. On route to Oban - Luss or Duck Bay Marina for coffee and a look at the loch; possibly a short boat trip on the loch at Tarbet; the drive over the Rest and Be Thankful Pass is beautiful.Then Inveraray itself with its handsome castle and lovely setting on Loch Fyne. Kilchurn Castle and St Conan's Kirk at Lochawe are well worth a stop. Don't rush on and off Mull.I know the island well, have driven its various roads many many times but trying to get to Fionnphort then Tobermory via the west/north coast, then off again and up to Fort William would have even me, VERY weary. I'd also be weary going to Fionnphort, spending a half day on Iona and having that big drive up the west/north coast to do after that. The single track road driving is tiring and slow but of course is made up for by continually passing through glorious landscapes.But you need the time to enjoy them and appreciate them without being on the clock.Hence I suggested overnighting(your second overnight) in Tobermory which is a delightful and buzzy wee place with good places to choose re eating out. If you do Tobermory to Kilchoan and drive on Ardnamurchan, that is the most direct way to Mallaig and Skye from the town.A couple of hours on paper without stops but likely a bit more than that.Again, plenty to see on route too. BUT - you will also be driving what I would call the King of the Single Track roads on that beautiful peninsula - VERY winding, mostly very short sight-lines re oncoming traffic as far as Salen. Roads are overall quiet but there is still regular traffic/vans.It is a stunning drive throughout - but they pretty much all are, in and near the west coast of Scotland.The roads get much easier from Acharacle to Mallaig. |
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