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I am curious, elina, do you have a US passport? I live in Europe, with a US passport, and mine is stamped every time (except CH). A friend with a Swiss passport never has it stamped. They will not stamp it even if she requests it. |
No, Queenie, no US passport, I am Finnish.
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My last trip to Europe was in 2000, so things may have chnaged - but I have tons of stamps on my passport - yes if you travel by tarin between two countries - they do not stamp the passport, however you can go to the police station and get a stamp - which we did out of sheer paranoia.
Agree with flannerUK better to be safe than sorry. You can get a one year multiple entry visa- and if you son does change his mind and decide to stay longer he can do so without worrying. |
I did call the Netherlands Consulate in Los Angeles for more info. Once I got past the voice mail, the man I spoke with was very helpful, friendly, and spoke impecabble english. So that was a good start!
-- son may spend a grand total of 90 days in Schengen countries in a 6 month period, and no visas will be required (knew that). -- Schengen countries (for visa purposes) should be considered like the states in the USA. One could spend all 90 days in France, or 6 days apiece in each of the 15 Schengen countries. But the grand total cannot exceed 90 days. -- to be granted tourist visa for more than 90 days requires one of these 3 conditions: 1) student in a schengen country university. Eg, an official "student abroad" program. 2) visiting family members. 3) forgot the 3rd categeory, but *think* it had to do with your spouse being a schengen country citizen. #1-3 have quite high burdens of proof and documentation. -- none of #1-3 apply to my son: he just wanted to be a tourist for 4-5 month period. -- Since #1-3 don't apply, son would require a "residence permit" (!) which would be very difficult to acquire and probably not worth the enormous hassle. Based on this, what I'm going to advise my son to do is: -- UK allows US citizens up to 6 months without visas (I confirmed at UK embassy web site). Spend a month or so there, which I think he's especially keen on, anyway. -- spend a month in the non-Schengen eastern european countries he wants to visit (Hungary, Czech republic, Macedonia). -- That leaves up to 90 days in the Schngen countries he wanted to visit, mainly France, Spain, Italy, possibly Belgium and/or Netherlands. -- Switzerland, should he decide to visit, is NOT schengen country. US citizens may stay up to 90 days without visa, and it is completely separate of Schengen country rules. -- Ireland, if he visits, is also completely separate from UK and schengen rules, so that's another 90 days. So with some minor adjustments in itinerary, my son can skip all this visa stuff. |
Thanks for taking the time to report back!
It's probably important to prepare some documentation for the immigration authorities in case he's questioned -- at the very minimum, get a return ticket and some documentation that he doesn't intend to stay in Schengen regions for more than 90 days. That's what I'd do, anyway. I'm sure that he'll have a great trip! |
By the way, this doesn't relate to your son's situation, but though Switzerland isn't a Schengen state, there're cases when it will take a Schengen visa for short stays depending on the nationality of the passport holder. In other words, in certain cases, someone who has a Schengen visa can go to Switzerland without the need for a Swiss visa.
But it's completely irrelevant here for your son. |
this has been one of the most informative threads.. thanks to your perseverance, and a very helpful consulate employee.
hope he has a great trip. sounds wonderful. |
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