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redwoodcitymom Mar 15th, 2007 08:04 PM

Scary travel in Germany
 
I'm struggling to figure out weather to rent a car or travel by train. I'm taking a train from Bruges to Nuremberg on July 11. (Eu ail?) I have family in Nuremberg, so I'll spend 2 days with them.

I want to see Rothenburg, Colmberg, Dinkelsbuel, Oberaamagau, Fuessen, the castles, Dachau, and Munich, then fly home from Munich on the 18th. (I'd love to go to Regensburg too because I studied there, but the time is too short.)

Option 1: Ask family to drive us to Schloss Colmberg, and take public transportation to the Romantic towns, and then down to Fuessen.

Option 2: Rent a car. Yikes! If I can avoid this it would be great. I get so stressed when I drive (even at home when I don't know where I'm going) and I'll be driving w/ a teenager.

The train from Colmberg to Fuessen is 9 hours!

Any bus or couch suggestions; or should I just bite the bullet and rent a car?

Most thankfully yours,

RedwoodCityMom

enzian Mar 15th, 2007 08:48 PM

Scary? No. According to the DB site, the travel from Colmberg to Füssen can take as little as 4 1/2 hours, via Ansbach, treuchtlingen, und Augsburg. Each journey begins with a bus trip from Colmberg Rathaus to Ansbach, where you catch the train for the onward journey to Füssen.

traveller1959 Mar 16th, 2007 03:58 AM

It will be much easier and faster to see the Romantic Towns if you have a car.

You can drive very relaxed at a leisurly pace, than no need to be scared. Driving in Germany is just the same as driving in North America, except that you won't find streets with four or five lanes in each direction.

batraveler Mar 16th, 2007 05:59 AM

Definitely not scary. Sure, vehicles travel at a higher pace, but if you do as well you will be fine. In fact, we have found Germany one of the very easiest countries in which to drive - very efficient and well done. It is unnerving the first couple of days to be going 160 km/hour and have cars whiz past you but you truly do get used to it. Then you return home and the 100 km/hour speed limit feels so draggy!

L84SKY Mar 16th, 2007 06:40 AM

"Driving in Germany is just the same as driving in North America, except..."
In Germany everyone seems to know the rules and how to drive. You don't find people coasting along in the fast lane drinking coffee and talking on their cells. IMO, Germans tend to take driving seriously which makes driving there a delight. Here's a website to help:

gettingaroundgermany.home.att.net/regeln.htm
gettingaroundgermany.home.att.net/parken.htm

Kristinelaine Mar 16th, 2007 06:59 AM

When the OP writes: "I get so stressed when I drive (even at home when I don't know where I'm going) and I'll be driving w/ a teenager." -- I would think it not very wise to say, Oh, sure, no problem, you can drive in Germany where they generally drive about 160 km/hour! JMHO


LN Mar 16th, 2007 07:07 AM

Sure - they drive pretty fast in the far left lane of the autobahn. On all their regular roads German drivers do not speed as there are speed limits.

They are, however, very courteous drivers. No one hogs the outside lane - people pass and then move to the right lane.

We drove in Germany for a month and, quite honestly, I would prefer to drive there than on any interstate or beltway around a city.

The road to Fuessen is a suburban road and not at all like the autobahn. My recommendation would be to rent a car - see as much of the country as you can - I know you'll love it!!

Viajero2 Mar 16th, 2007 07:12 AM

Conquer your fears, don't sucumb to them, specially when it involves the potential to enjoy yourself so much more. I think you should drive, just take a deep breath and drive to the right.

bobludlow Mar 16th, 2007 07:20 AM

They only drive that fast in the far left lane. Stay in the right lane and you will be fine. They actually have better and safer driving manners over there.

But if driving makes you that nervous you should seriously consider traveling with a friend who can do the driving or using public transit to visit a shorter, more manageable list of German towns. If you don't enjoy yourself, what would be the point of the vacation?

AisleSeat Mar 16th, 2007 07:28 AM

Time to turn that teenager (how old?)into a navigator. Buy a good map at one of the service stations in Germany and enjoy the adventure. If you get lost it just means you get to see something you hadn't planned on seeing.

We enjoy traveling by car in Germany but my wife has the navigator role and she takes it seriously. If you really want to simplify things get a GPS unit and it will give you turn by turn instructions.

redwoodcitymom Mar 16th, 2007 07:32 AM

First of all, Thank you to all who responded!

My fear of driving isn't so much about speed, as it is about not knowing where I'm going. I'm imaging being in Dinkelsbuel and not being able to find the hotel, or a parking space.

Also, do you think the itinerary is too much?


basingstoke2 Mar 16th, 2007 07:36 AM

Germany seems to make much better use of road signs than we do in the States, not only on roads but within towns and cities too. I rarely get lost there, but tend to need a GPS to find my way around Washington D.C.

L84SKY Mar 16th, 2007 07:50 AM

There is plenty of public transpo in Germany so anyone who is afraid to drive shouldn't be on the road. Get a rail pass and you'll truly be on vacation.


I think one of the problems with driving in So.California is that there are few options for the scared and clueless. So you find people who refuse to speed up when entering a freeway or who haven't figured out what the fast lane is for.

traveller1959 Mar 16th, 2007 08:40 AM

First, the Romantic towns are so small that it is impossible to get lost.

Secondly, you can buy a very detailed map. Maps in Germany are much more detailed than those you can buy in the US.

Thirdly, rent a car with a GPS system and then you can completely relax and enjoy the landscape.

CarolJean Mar 16th, 2007 08:50 AM

There is another aspect to this. Attitude! Get in the mindset that you will get lost and that is part of the adventure. You won't get very lost - those are small towns. But getting lost and figuring it out with your teenager will make for wonderful memories and stories. And you will both feel so good when you find the hotel or whatever. Don't deprive yourself and child of this great opportunity to really bond. It is a great adventure but you need to program yourself to enjoy it. Have a great time. CJ

ira Mar 16th, 2007 09:14 AM

Hi Mom,

Ditto AisleSeat.

Having your teenager be the navigator will make him/her an important part of the journey rather than just a sullen lump sitting in the back seat with earphones on.

>I want to see Rothenburg, Colmberg, Dinkelsbuel, Oberaamagau, Fuessen, the castles, Dachau, and Munich,

Plot the routes from

Nuremburg to Rothenburg ob der tauber

Rothenburg to Oberammergau via Wies

Oberammergau to Fuessen via Linderhof

Fuessen to Munich via Garmisch

at www.viamichelin.com

The scenic routes are outlined in green.

Mark your route on a decent map (Michelin No. 546- Bayern and No. 730- Osterreich are good).

Use the zoom function at www.viamichelin.com and/or www.mappy.com to follow the road through the towns to see where the route jogs.

Usually the roads are well marked.

Use the hybrid function at www.map.google.com to get an aerial view of the countryside.

Better yet, let your teen do this for you.

You won't need the car in Munich, and you can visit Dachau by bus.

Also see www.romanticroad.com/default.htm#index

Enjoy your visit.

((I))

J_Correa Mar 16th, 2007 09:17 AM

We found driving in Germany to be really easy - but if driving in strange places stresses you out, then take the train. You wont have the same freedom as you would with a car, but everything is a trade off, right? Do what you are comfortable with. And if the train means that you can't easily get to one or two of your planned destinations, then substitute others. There are so many great things to see in Germany.

Rothenberg is an easy train ride from Nuremberg - we did that as a day trip. There are 2 train changes, which I thought would be confusing, but it wasn't. Very easy. We also took the train between Munich and Nuremberg, which was also easy - this was a direct train, not changes. Just sit back and enjoy the scenery.

Since you only have 7 days, you might consider this:

Spend time in Nuremberg, taking day trips to Rothenberg and Colmberg. Then take the train to Munich, basing yourself there for the rest of your trip. From Munich, you can take a day trip by train to Fussen. I think you can get a bus from Fussen to Oberamergau and take a train back to Munich from near there. This will allow you to see everything except Dinklesbuhl, you will be able to do everything without a car, and not end up spending a bunch of time on trains and buses with your luggage.

Mimar Mar 16th, 2007 09:38 AM

Another alternative is the bus. I know there's a bus that goes up the Romantik Road. But that's about all I know.

I think if driving is such a problem, it wouldn't be much of a vacation for you. Unless having GPS navigation to direct you would calm your nerves.

logos999 Mar 16th, 2007 09:51 AM

Just out of curiosity! Did you find Germans that actually used the words "Romantik Road" when refering to "Romantic Road". In German it would be "Romatisch", so where does the "k" come from? :-)

CarolJean Mar 16th, 2007 09:52 AM

The bus is called Europabus. Google it. CJ


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