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Sant Antimo..Gregorian chants in Tuscany?

Sant Antimo..Gregorian chants in Tuscany?

Dec 12th, 2005, 09:43 AM
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Sant Antimo..Gregorian chants in Tuscany?

We will have two nights and almost two days in Montepulciano next month (January). I have read about the singing monks in this abbey near Montalcino (twice a day; what time?) Has anyone experienced this and if so, do you think it merits a trip? I would love to hear about it. Thanks!
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Dec 12th, 2005, 09:48 AM
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In my opinion, Sant'Antimo definitely warrants a trip - with or without Gregorian chant. It's a lovely little jewel.

I haven't heard the monks chant, but I understand that the community is not very large.

There is a Web site with the hours of the services (more than two a day, I think):

http://www.antimo.it/
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Dec 12th, 2005, 09:52 AM
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Yes, the chanting is very lovely, and so is the setting for the monastery.
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Dec 12th, 2005, 09:54 AM
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I think this is a must-see, loved it. It is such a gorgeous setting. We were there for the chants at 2:45 pm. It's really nice to hear the chants, but go anyway if you can't be there for them.
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Dec 12th, 2005, 10:27 AM
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Thanks so much! I did look at the web site but could not find the times for the chants. Does anyone have more information for January 2006?
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Dec 12th, 2005, 10:49 AM
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It's all in Italian, but here is the schedule for the feast days in early January (a time followed by a name means that it is a service in Gregorian chant - except the ones that say that there are also polyphonic hymns):

Domenica 1 gennaio 2006: MARIA MADRE DI DIO
7.30 Lodi
9.00 Terza
11.00 Messa con canti gregoriani e polifonici.
12.45 Sesta
14.45 Nona
18.30 Vespro con Benedizione Eucaristica
20.30 Compieta


2-5 gennaio 2006
5.45 Mattutino
7.00 Lodi
9.00 Terza - Messa
19.00 Vespro
20.30 Compieta

Venerdì 6 gennaio 2006: EPIFANIA
24.00 Vigilia
7.30 Lodi
9.00 Terza
11.00 Messa con canti gregoriani e polifonici
12.45 Sesta
14.45 Nona
18.30 Vespro con Benedizione Eucaristica
20.30 Compieta


Sabato 7 gennaio 2006
5.45 Mattutino
7.00 Lodi
9.00 Terza - Messa
19.00 Vespro
20.30 Compieta

Domenica 8 gennaio 2006: BATTESIMO DI CRISTO
7.30 Lodi
9.00 Terza
11.00 Messa con canti gregoriani e polifonici.
12.45 Sesta
14.45 Nona
18.30 Vespro con Benedizione Eucaristica
20.30 Compieta

And this is the regular schedule:

Week days:
Mattutino 5.45
Lodi 7.00
Terza 9.00
Messa 9.15
Orario di visita della chiesa 10.15 - 12.30
Sesta 12.45
Nona 14.45
Orario di visita della chiesa 15.00 - 18.30
Vespro 19.00
Compieta 20.30

Sundays and feast days:
Vigilie 0.00
Lodi 7.30
Terza 9.00
Orario di visita della chiesa 9.15 - 10.45
Messa 11.00
Sesta 12.45
Nona 14.45
Orario di visita della chiesa 15.00 - 18.00
Vespro 18.30 segue la benedizione eucaristica
Compieta 20.30

"Orario di visita" are the times when you can wander around freely in the church. During services, you are asked not to walk around or photograph.
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Dec 12th, 2005, 10:57 AM
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Check Slowtrav web site for schedule, and other info on Saint Antimo:

http://www.slowtrav.com/italy/tuscany/sant_antimo.htm
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Dec 12th, 2005, 12:05 PM
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I heartily second going to Sant Antimo with or without the chanting.

As for chanting, not far away is Monte Oliveto Maggiore--sorta between Buonconvento and Asciano. This is a fairly large (compared to the small community at Antimo) community and there are daily services with chant. [There is also a nice simple restaurant on the grounds run by the church ladies.)
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Dec 12th, 2005, 12:46 PM
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Thanks again! But Eloise, I do not see where it mentions the chants on the regular schedule; we will be there on the 16th and 17th of January, if that helps. I can make out the Italian, just did not see the canti mentioned on the regular schedule for after the feast days early in the month.
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Dec 12th, 2005, 02:06 PM
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The same thing applies for ordinary days as for feast days. Where you see a time and a name beside it, it means that it is a service with Gregorian chant.

The only reason why they mention the "canti" for the Masses on feast days is because they want to make it clear that, at those Masses, both Gregorian chant and polyphonic hymns are sung. Where there is no special indication of "canti", it means that it's a service with only Gregorian chant.
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Dec 12th, 2005, 02:24 PM
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Eloise, I am sorry to be so dense. But do you mean that under the "regular weekday" schedule, there are 8 times when the chants are sung? 5:45, 7, 9, 9:15, 12:45, 14:45, 19:00 and 20:30? Thanks again.
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Dec 12th, 2005, 02:37 PM
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That's what the Web site says.

Translated roughly, "The community gathers seven times a day to raise hymns and spiritual chants to God. In the schedule (which was in my earlier message) all the times of the liturgical prayers and for visits are indicated. The church is open from 6:45 a.m. to 9:00 p.m."

And then there's a trailer that crosses below the schedule and says in large letters: "All the functions are sung in Gregorian chant."

I assume the good monks are serious about what they put on their Web site...
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Dec 12th, 2005, 02:40 PM
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P.S. The Terza at 9:00 and the Messa at 9:15 count as one, since one follows immediately upon the other. Since visiting hours start at 10:15, I assume that the Mass is over by 10:15 at the latest.
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Dec 12th, 2005, 03:34 PM
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Thanks so much, Eloise. I was surprised since the book I have (Access Florence) states that there are chants sung only twice a day. You have been most helpful.
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Dec 12th, 2005, 03:39 PM
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You're very welcome. I do, of course, very much hope that the information on the Web site is reliable. I would assume that it is.
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Dec 12th, 2005, 03:50 PM
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Definitely go! Before or after the chants, wander around and look at the abbey. Go down the steps underneath (more or less) the altar; there is a tiny sanctuary there, with some faded frescoes. On the lefthand side was a fresco of the sweetest cherub I have ever seen.
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Dec 12th, 2005, 05:49 PM
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Hi E,

Yes, go! It was one of the highlights of my trip in Sept. I went for the 9am and there were only about 15 people there. The church is ancient, simple and beautiful! Kind of a nice change after all the heavily decorated churches in Rome. At 10 am, the church is open for "visiting hours", meaning the tour buses roll in.

Go early. Buon viaggio!
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Dec 13th, 2005, 06:34 AM
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Thanks! We will put Sant Antimo on our list for early one morning. It sounds wonderful.
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