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annhig Jun 1st, 2007 09:54 AM

hi,

just to join in, I've never had salad nicoise without tomatoes [fresh] in it.

regards, ann

socialworker Jun 1st, 2007 09:55 AM

I now realize that my post above looks like I was insulting an innocent person. When I posted previously, someone had just made a gratuitous insult to the French....the editors are definitely on top of things today!! :)

CAPH52 Jun 1st, 2007 10:14 AM

Thank you, socialworker! I read through the posts trying to figure out to what you were referring. Now I know what I missed!

You guys are making me so hungry for salad Nicoise! I was going to make some sort of salmon salad for supper. Maybe I'm just going to have to see how Nicoise would be with salmon!;)

socialworker Jun 1st, 2007 10:31 AM

I think it would be yummy w/salmon! I have a recipe for nicoise dressing that is from a party in Cambridge, MA from the 70s written in pencil on a note card. Even back then in my very "naif" days, I could recognize something that tasted so great and was new to my limited experience. I asked the hostess for the recipe and I smile everytime I pull out the card and use the recipe.

SeaUrchin Jun 1st, 2007 10:49 AM

the tuna canned with water is bitter in my opinion. I only buy the Italian tuna in oil. The flavor is deep and rich. I use this in my Nicoise Salad and it is so good. But I would like to see your recipe, socialworker, I am always looking for better dressings. (If you would like to share)


Underhill Jun 1st, 2007 10:50 AM

The first salade niçoise that I had was one I made from Julia Childs's first cookbook. So far nothing I've had in a restaurant compares. As for the tuna, I remember Julia saying that a true salade niçoise was meant to be made with canned tuna, and she never developed a liking for the version with fresh. D'accord.

SeaUrchin Jun 1st, 2007 10:51 AM

Oh, and my old favorite for salad nicoise in paris is Le Castiglione at 235 rue Saint Honore. With a cool glass of white wine it is perfecto.

socialworker Jun 1st, 2007 11:08 AM

Happy to share, but the caveat is that everytime I make it, I become a naive 23 year old tasting it for the first time, and so it may only be ordinary to the world at large, but was a revelation to me!! (I think it may be from an old NYT cookbook, the attribution is not included on the card)

Dressing--Salade Nicoise
2 Tbsp mustard--Dijon or Dusseldorf
2 Tbsp wine vinegar
1 1/2 tsp salt
1-2 cloves garlic finely minced
6 Tbsp vegetable oil
6 Tbsp olive oil
Freshly ground black pepper
1/2 tsp dried thyme

There are no mixing directions, but I always whisk together all the mustard, vinegar, garlic and seasonings and then drizzle in the oil, stirring it well. I can't remember if last time I made it, I just skipped using veg oil and used all olive oil....

SeaUrchin Jun 1st, 2007 11:17 AM

Great! Thank you so much.

CarolJean Jun 1st, 2007 11:22 AM

My favorite recipe is from Cook's Illustrated July-Aug. 2002.They also did a tuna tasting report. 1st place went to Ortiz bonito del norte "ventresca." 2nd place to Ortiz bonito del norte (oval tin) which is the one I always use. I'm having it for dinner since the temp. is in the high 80's today. CJ

cigalechanta Jun 1st, 2007 11:24 AM

that sounds good socialworker :)
Here's Julia Child's:

Julia Child's Salade Niçoise
- serves 6 -

Ingredients
1 large head Boston-lettuce leaves, washed and dried

1 pound green beans, cooked and refreshed

1-1/2 tablespoons minced shallots

1/2 to 2/3 cup basic vinaigrette

Salt and freshly ground pepper

3 or 4 ripe red tomatoes, cut into wedges (or 10 to 12 cherry tomatoes, halved)

3 or 4 "boiling" potatoes, peeled, sliced, and cooked

Two 3-ounce cans chunk tuna, preferably oil-packed

6 hard-boiled eggs, peeled and halved

1 freshly opened can of flat anchovy fillets

1/3 cup small black Niçoise-type olives

2 to 3 tablespoons capers

3 tablespoons minced fresh parsley


Procedure
Arrange the lettuce leaves on a large platter or in a shallow bowl. Shortly before serving, toss the beans with the shallots, spoonfuls of vinaigrette, and salt and pepper. Baste the tomatoes with a spoonful of vinaigrette. Place the potatoes in the center of the platter and arrange a mound of beans at either end, with tomatoes and small mounds of tuna at strategic intervals. Ring the platter with halves of hard-boiled eggs, sunny side up, and curl an anchovy on top of each. Spoon more vinaigrette over all; scatter on olives, capers, and parsley, and serve.


Tango Jun 1st, 2007 11:30 AM

I am American and in addition to loving salade nicoise (of any sort)I love a good tuna salad with celery, onion and mayo. And, one of my favorites in the UK is their tuna made with sweet corn! I was wondering as I read this thread, do the French make tuna salad?

kerouac Jun 1st, 2007 12:17 PM

Do these recipes mean that Cimbrone can cancel the trip?

No, the French do not make American tuna salad. They use tuna in different ways. You can find a tuna-mayonnaise combination in certain sandwiches, but you'll never find the celery. When I use celery in any kind of salad in France, it creates raves and questions. "Is that fennel?" No it isn't. (But fennel is a fabulous replacement for celery in certain recipes.)

beaupeep Jun 1st, 2007 12:17 PM

Sweet corn and tuna - I adore it! I just ate a roll-up tortilla sandwich with tuna, corn and red beans. It was great. Unfortunately it was made by the restaurant where I work but on Nantucket at Cook's there is an excellent tortilla roll up sandwich called the Napoleon with tuna, corn and a special dressing that I crave!

cigalechanta Jun 1st, 2007 12:19 PM

Is there a recipe for the tuna and corn? My husband loves corn.

kerouac Jun 1st, 2007 12:21 PM

Can't you figure it out for yourself, cigalechanta? I think it sounds pretty good myself (never had it) and I certainly don't need a recipe to figure out how to put corn in a tuna salad.

cigalechanta Jun 1st, 2007 12:26 PM

Wise Ane! I want to know the dressing

Hausmann Jun 1st, 2007 12:40 PM

Salade Nicoise:
Fresh tuna--baked until done, not rare
fresh cooked haricots, left whole
new (red) potatoes, cooked & sliced
tomato wedges
boiled eggs, quartered
capers, anchovies, Nicoise olives
red onion slices(thin sliced)

Other optional items may be added if you like. Arrange on a large platter with ingredients in groups with the capers, anchovies, olives scattered on top. Tuna can be sliced or cut into bite size chunks.

viniagrette:
good olive oil
white balsamic vinegar
Dijon mustard--tsp or so
chopped chives--handful
fresh ground black pepper
Exact amounts are not important--use your own proportions making the dressing. Makes a great picnic dish and this recipe will not disappoint. On occasion I have used canned tuna which makes a somewhat lighter salad.



stanleys Jun 1st, 2007 12:45 PM

No one mentioned my favorite "pain bagnat". Another wonderful warm weather beach kind of food found mostly on the Riviera.

Cimbrone Jun 1st, 2007 01:23 PM

No chance of my canceling the trip, kerouac. In addition to Salad Nicoise, I can't wait for an egg, mayonnaise and tomato baguette; pissaladier; a chocolate crepe; and Berthillon ice cream. I'm counting the minutes!

Something else the English do with their sandwiches is put cole slaw on them. When I was a little boy, I'd sneak my cole slaw on to my sandwiches, so I was thrilled when I got to England and saw this is considered normal there:)


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