Ruins of Pompeii and Pasteum

Old Jan 30th, 2018, 03:27 PM
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Paqngo............Thank you so much, we will have to look into Nello. We will be taking ferries from Sorrento to Capri, then Capri to Amalfi. Schedules are not posted yet though. Did you see any particular sights that stood out in the Amalfi, Positano area but are not mentioned in the guide books?
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Old Jan 30th, 2018, 05:57 PM
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BarbaraAllison7911- Guide books do give you some great ideas about the sights to see and things to explore. We tend to get lost and find interesting things to see. Some of these are in guide books but we did really enjoy the following. Capri, we walked all over and all of us enoyed the giardini de Augustus as well as the Certosa of San Giacomo. We did not get to do the Monte Solaro Chairlift (my cousin is afraid of heights). We all loved Ravello and enjoyed Villa Rufolo and Villa Cimbrone. We just happened to be in Positano the night they were having thier Festa de Pesce. I am not sure if Nello is doing tours, if you do want to do a small tour check out Tripadvisor for some recomendations.
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Old Jan 30th, 2018, 07:16 PM
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Yes, I took the bus from Amalfi to Ravello, where I treasured the gardens of both the Villa Rufolo and Villa Cimbrone, not to mention the extraordinary ambos of the cathedral in Ravello and a delightful stroll through itís beautiful medieval streets. But I stayed in Ravello, so I had time for those delightful moments. If planning a day trip there AND a hike to Amalfi, Iím not sure if you would have time for it all, so plan accordingly Ė or go twice.

I thoroughly enjoyed the hike from Ravello to Amalfi, but would encourage you to look carefully before making a turn Ė there were at least two occasions when I turned just a bit too soon. Had I gone just a bit further, I would have seen clearer trail markings. Maybe things are better marked now, but given what I learned on that hike, I would take the time to walk just a few minutes on the FLAT surfaces by any turn downhill to make sure there isnít another trail marker to one or the other side of what seems, at first, to be the path.

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Did you see any particular sights that stood out in the Amalfi, Positano area but are not mentioned in the guide books?
IME, guidebooks to the area differ dramatically in what they cover, with some providing only nominal coverage. FWIW, I found the Rough Guide the most comprehensive of the half dozen or so that I consulted.
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Old Feb 1st, 2018, 10:31 AM
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For Pompeii and Herculaneum I think you need a guide if you aren't willing/able to do research ahead of time. If you just show up and wander around you won't get half the experience. It's just that there IS a lot of information on line (and in books) so even if you are willing to just spend a couple hours, and/or download a few things you can get the full experience (perhaps even better than some guides) without being herded around at someone else's pace (and for free).

The official website has a lot of information - Home Page - Parco Archeologico di Pompei - click on Pompeii, then 'visiting the site', brings you a map plus a list of all the individual sites, click on any of them and it gives a good description and history.

There are also numerous blogs and sites out there that basically give you a self guided tour (many with photos)
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Old Feb 1st, 2018, 06:06 PM
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I believe you can rent audio guides at these sites; I found the ones I rented to be quite informative. And when I visited Pompeii, there were docents who were happy to help -- and were completely ignored by all the guided tours rushing through. They seemed so delighted to actually be able to tell me more about what I was seeing! But I believe that funding for Pompeii has varied over the years, and so maybe they are there, or aren't as plentiful, as when I visited. Even so, I agree with isabel that advanced research -- even a little -- will go a long way. (And I did a LOT of reading before going.)
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>>>I believe you can rent audio guides at these sites<<<

I don't know if Paestum has audio guides, but Pompeii does (you must leave your ID with them - passport or DL). There is also an app you can d/l instead. They have it listed two different ways in their info so I'm not sure which is correct (or if there is an android version). i-MiBAC-Top 40 i-MiBAC-Tpo 40
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Old Feb 2nd, 2018, 11:18 AM
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If you only have three days in Naples I wouldn't use one of them for a day trip to Paestum. How does this sound for a day:

1. Bus Atrani to Salerno (one hour)
2. Train Salerno to Paestum (30 minutes) (I've done this, it's easy)
3. Explore Paestum. Eat Mozarella di Buffa. Realize that you've never actually had real mozarella before. Train back to Salerno.
4. Spend the rest of the afternoon in Salerno. It's a nice town, and the Giardino della Minerva is a special place.
5. Bus back to Atrani for dinner.

ON your Pompeii day, if you're feeling energetic, you can also visit Villa Oplontis (aka Villa Poppaea), one town over in Torre Annunziata. It's a beautiful Roman villa, mostly intact, whose walls are covered in their original frescoes. It's a spectacular site, and strangely under visited.
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Old Feb 2nd, 2018, 11:42 AM
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Another vote for the Villa Oplontis. It gives you a much better feel for life in those houses than Pompeii or even Herculaneum (which to me was a better site than Pompeii).
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Old Feb 3rd, 2018, 08:17 AM
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My friends and I did a day trip just on our own from the island of Ischia to Pompeii. It worked out fine, and we had plenty of hours to explore. We had used audio tours in Rome at the Forum and were quite happy with them, so we did the same at Pompeii and that worked out perfectly for us. We also read up quite a bit beforehand-and after.
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Old Feb 4th, 2018, 09:40 AM
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Hi
Pompei is a must when travelling to the South Italy.
From Sorrento you have 2 options:
By public transportation and no guide inside site ( Sorrento to Naples then the overground to Pompeii town)
Private Tour from Rome if you decide to visit Rome

I booked through www.anytoursitaly.com and I think I paid about 100 Ä with lunch included...11 hours but I loved it
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Old Feb 4th, 2018, 03:24 PM
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Thanks Michael Cain and thursdaysd. We will probably do Herculaneum and Villa Oplontis as you both seem to prefer to Pompeii! We also will be visiting Pasteum from Atrani as that seems to make more sense now I know it’s not that difficult to get to as originally thought! Thanks for advice. Hopefully we will get to see the park in Salerno also......I have looked it up and it has very good reviews.
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Old Feb 4th, 2018, 07:04 PM
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Before you make a decision, please note that Pompeii and Herculaneum were very different places before their destruction, and they were destroyed by different mechanisms, so they aren't directly comparable. As I understand it, Pompeii was a work-a-day city, while Herculaneum was an abode of wealthier people. Pompeii's destruction (by flash heating and superheated ash, I believe) guaranteed the destruction of almost all (if not all) of it's wood, but some wood remained in Herculaneum (which was destroyed by a type of pyroclastic flow), so Herculaneum has more 2-story buildings. Too, there are buildings at Pompeii that retain all their murals, the most notable of which may be the Villa of the Mysteries. I'm not saying which to see; I'm just suggesting that you might want to do a bit more research before committing.
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Old Feb 5th, 2018, 09:01 AM
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kJA, lots to consider and study up on. We need to get some literature before making any decisions. Thanks for advise and good paraphrasing of the sites. Next on my list is a guide book, although I have a couple, I need to get something more related to,the ruins.
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Maybe you'll find my report on the sites helpful.

https://mytimetotravel.wordpress.com...bs-roman-life/
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Whatever you choose will be amazing ... it's hard to go wrong! But to clarify my earlier post, I don't recommend skipping Pompeii! It's one of the more amazing places in the world. That should be your focus. The other two sites are add-ons if you have the energy.

One tip for Pompeii: almost all of the crowds are clustered in the western quarter of the ruins. I prefer entering at the eastern gate, near the amphitheater. There were maybe a couple dozen people who took this back entrance when I was there, versus the hundreds & hundreds of people we saw when we reached the main gate.
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Old Feb 5th, 2018, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BarbaraAllison7911 View Post
kJA, lots to consider and study up on. We need to get some literature before making any decisions. Thanks for advise and good paraphrasing of the sites. Next on my list is a guide book, although I have a couple, I need to get something more related to,the ruins.
Good decision!
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I've been to Pompeii several times, Herculaneum twice and Paestum once, none with guides. In some cases I wandered, in some I used a guidebook. I would not recommend trying to see both Pompeii and Herculaneum in a single day. That is a recipe for exhaustion, especially on a hot day.

Perhaps some of my blog posts might help you make up your mind where to focus your energy.

This post covers both Pompeii and Herculaneum:
Pompeii and Herculaneum; Photos and Some Tips For Visiting the Ruins ? wired2theworld

This is a previous trip to Herculaneum (from Naples) with more detail on that site:
Day trip to Herculaneum ? wired2theworld

This is our visit to Paestum which we reached from Naples.
A Visit to Paestum?s Temples and Archaeological Museum ? wired2theworld
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Old Feb 6th, 2018, 04:58 PM
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I would not recommend trying to see both Pompeii and Herculaneum in a single day.
I visited both in a single day from Naples, and while I'm glad I got to see both sites, that was one long, exhausting day!

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