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i am watching the wedding. i liked the use of a bus to take guests to the guildhall. better financial management and better for the environment.

i was surprised that the bit where
"We acknowledge and bewail our manifold sins and wickedness" was not recited by the couple in front in the church.it was simply read by all present.

Thanks for the link - watching the ceremony now on TV. The music is lovely. :)

Who among us is not without sin? Let HIM cast the first stone. . . .

Good luck to them. Everyone deserves to be happy! The young Princes certainly look relaxed and happy.

Lots of beautiful hats, too. Although I would not like to have to sit behind some of them. :)

Well, of course the 'manifold wickedness' bit was said by everybody. It's the standard 'General Confession' that used to be a regular part of every CofE Sunday matins in the 1662 prayer book. Of course, I won't speculate as to how and why the tabloids came to assume this was meant to be some special sort of personal apology.....

We have the same one here in the US Episcopal Church, too...the tabs didn't understand because they obviously never go to church!

Anyone know the hymn sung by the woman during the blessing, and what language?

It was a Russian Chant.

Here's a link to the Order of Service for the ceremony: <b>http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/news/2005/04.apr/press_pack.php</b>

Thanks KB!

Could someone explain to me why there were 3 events? What were they? I thought the Queen wasn't attending, and that Prince Philip would be in Germany... But there they were! And wasn't there a portion to which only 30 people were invited?

Camilla looked so nervous. I was wondering if she had any more empathy for what they put Diana through in public, after she had to perform in front of all the scrutiny. I couldn't help but feel so sorry for what that child bride had gone through, knowing she had to suck it up and pretend all was well, all the while realizing her fiance/new husband was cavorting with another woman.

The whole issue would never have happened could Charles have married the woman he wanted 30 years ago. How ridiculous that he couldn't marry a divorcee! Was it because of the church, or because the heir could only be born of someone &quot;virginal?&quot; So many people were hurt because of that craziness...

dreamer2, 30 yrs ago she wasnt a divorcee. its just that she had more boyfriends in he youth than the queen thought proper for a white gowned princess bride.

Dreamer, the actual marriage ceremony (a civil service) was the small, private ceremony that took place in the Guildhall. The religious blessing was the ceremony that took place in St. George's Chapel (where the queen and Prince Philip were in attendance.) After both ceremonies, the queen hosted a reception for the couple (and 800 guests) inside the castle.

Charles didn't even ask the Queen thirty year ago. He decided that he was too young at age 22 to get married and he was about to begin a stint in the Royal Navy. By the time he was returned, Camilla had married Andrew Parker Bowles.

In addition &quot;having experience&quot;, she is also not of royal blood. That doesn't matter now, but it holds more importance where the mother of the heirs is concerned. Additionally, she is a little over a year older than Charles. Thirty plus years ago, those were all a bigger deal than they might be now.

i saw the screening of the blessing.

i thought the singing of &quot;god save the queen&quot; had particular meaning at the end of the mass.

camilla &amp; the queen didnt speak to each other for the whole time they were on camera and lined up for the photo.

quesiton: if through some advance in medicine charles &amp; camilla have a child, what chances would this little one have for the throne?

It would be fourth in line behind Charles, William and Harry.

right behind william &amp; harry? i didnt know that.

did you know this:if king charles abdicated (like kind edward did) Camilla would become Queen.

Did you notice Tony Blair seated with the choire boys? he &amp; cheri had good front seats but they seemed a bit lonely there.

No, she would not. William would become King.

UK minister: Camilla can be queen
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe...in.wedding.ap/

Camilla might still become Queen
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...483550,00.html

Both those articles are addressing the issue of Camilla becoming queen upon the death of the current queen. Whether or not she will be queen when Charles becomes king, William will become king upon Charles's death.

If, indeed, Camilla is titled queen one day, she will only be queen while her husband lives.

Another question, though... Upon Charles' death, what would Camilla's title be? Surely not Queen Mother. Dowager Queen?

got1tiel,

You are misunderstanding the meaning of these articles. They refer only to the title Camilla will use when Charles accedes to the throne. Once Charles becomes King, there is every possibility that Camilla will be known as &quot;Queen Camilla&quot;. She would have this title only because she would be the wife of the reigning King. In the highly unlikely event that Charles was to abdicate after acceding to the throne, William would become King and Camilla would have some other title. There is absolutely no chance that Camilla would ever be queen in her own right.

Kayb95,

I was wondering that as I was typing my last response. I agree, not &quot;Queen Mother, because she's not. I really don't know.

Camilla looked very lovely....had poise and warmth. She loves the outdoors , as does he,....and it looks like she will do her royal duties at functions just fine.
Too bad about the critisism she has recieved.

I think she would revert back to 'The Dutchess of Cornwall'
That is her title

I enjoyed watching all the festivities, and loved the hats! I thought Camilla loved lovely. Of course, she's no Diana (but who is?), and I wish the British media would lay off of her now. For me, it was nice to see this couple who obviously love each other, finally having this wonderful day. After all, you know the saying, &quot;Love conquers all&quot;!

The Russian Orthodox part of the service was The Nicene Creed.

Sorry, Babs, but Diana Spencer was not of royal blood. She was a commoner, just like Camilla, although she was an aristocrat.

Camilla most certainly would not become the monarch of Great Britain if Charles died. That title will go to William. Angela Bowes-Lyon, the Queen Mother, did NOT become reigning monarch when her husband, King George VI, died.

It was only Angela Bowes-Lyon who styled herself &quot;The Queen Mother.&quot; No other dowager queen used that title, not even Queen Mary.

Thin, I though Diana was &quot;of the blood royal&quot;(!). In any case, I think it wouldn't be a bad thing to let them marry whoever they want, barring actual axe murderers, of course. The royal gene pool could use a little help.

The Queen Mother's name was Angela?

Thin, it was Elizabeth.

Thanks again, Kay, for clearing that up.
Dowager Queen??? Yuk!!!
(Although, that sort of suits her! )
Duchess of Cornwall sounds much better.

Hey, did anyone see the girl standing near Harry and William outside on the church steps? I thought she looked a lot like Fergie and was wondering if that was one of her daughters. Anybody know? And were Charles's brothers and sister there?

Yes, they certainly are a dysfunctional group. I wonder if Camilla had any remorse if/when she had any flashbacks to the sham wedding.

Hey, do you think near 60-year olds feel they have to consumate the wedding that night, even though they are exhausted, and have basically been living together for years??? :) Yes, a bizarre, random thought. But I'm bored as heck tonight!

Yes, the &quot;Queen Mother&quot; was born Lady Elizabeth Angela Bowes-Lyon, daughter of the Earl of Strathmore. She also was a commoner.

I've never really thought of the sons and daughters of Earls and Dukes as being &quot;commoners&quot; - I don't think they can really be described as such.

What a nuts country we live in when you think about it!

and yes that was Fergie's daughters Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie (with the heeeouge hat)

Well, Glitterball, even though I was born in England, I have lived in the US for 26 years now. So I really don't know if England is a &quot;nuts country.&quot; I do remember my English history, however. It also helps that my mother also lives in the US to help remind of things that I have forgotten.

You can be the offspring of a duke or earl and still be royal, depending on whether or not the duke or earl has an &quot;HRH&quot; in his title. It is all very confusing. Maybe you are right about a &quot;nuts country.&quot;

Well speaking as a Scot I think England is definitely a nuts country ;-) (dodging English partner who is getting ready to slap me).

&gt;Princess Eugenie (with the heeeouge hat)&lt;

Yes, it looked like something out of Dr. Seuss!

Actually ThinGorgus, Princess Diana was of more royal British blood than Charles. She was a descendant of James I of Scotland who became king after the death of Elizabeth I. Also, she and Charles were very distant cousins.

I read somewhere that after James' accession a popular joke was that &quot;King Elizabeth has been succeeded by Queen James.&quot;

Glitterball, LOL!

Thin, yes, the Queen Mother was a commoner, but when she married, her husband was not the heir to the throne and it was not though likely that he would ever become king. The modern equivalent would be Sarah Ferguson.