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wrenwood Sep 10th, 2010 11:31 AM

Rough Itinerary for 5 days in Rome, please suggest more
 
I just finished making reservations for our last tour. I don't want to overschedule, but I'm looking for some suggestions as to how to best see additional things based around what I already have scheduled.

DAY 1 ~ ARRIVE ROME
arrive and settle in, do some shopping @ Campo dei Fiori and locally to stock up for breakfast, and cheese and wine, take a nap, go out and walk around and eat dinner. (Maybe up towards Piazza Navona?) Must find Gelato places.

DAY 2
9:00 Tour with Context (4hrs) ~ Colosseum, Forum, Palatine Hill
Do what afterwards?

DAY 3
9:15 Scavi Tour ~ afterwards go up St Peters Basilca for view, check out Old Bridge Gelato and get a bite to eat.
2PM ~ Vatican Tour w/Bruno Eternal City Tours (3-3.5 hrs)

DAY 4
2:30 Tour with Context ~ Galleria Borghese (2.5 hrs)
Do what before? We do want to spend time walking around Villa Borghese Gardens. Pantheon? Tevi Fountain & Spanish Steps?

DAY 5 (a Monday so I realize some things may be closed)
do whatever didn’t get done

We're staying about a 7 minute walk from Campo de' Fiori, and about 10 minutes from Piazza Navone, so any great recommendations for places for dinner in those areas appreciated!

suec1 Sep 10th, 2010 11:52 AM

I like La Carbonara in Campo di'Fiore - excellent antipasto table. Also I'd suggest walking over to Trastevere at least one evening and just go for a place that looks like there are some locals eating there.

As far as your itinerary I'd be inclined to spend the empty times just wandering or cafe sitting (but thats my slow travel style). Stop in at any open churches - many have great art. A trip to the Catacombs outside the city might be a nice addition too.

justbronwyn Sep 10th, 2010 12:01 PM

The old Jewish Ghetto is interesting and not too far from the Colosseum/Forum.

annhig Sep 10th, 2010 12:26 PM

hi wrenwood,

based entirely on our own likes and dislikes,

DAY 2 - after the context tour, head up towards san pietro in vincoli [St. Peter in Chains], and on the way, have lunch at one of the nice neighbourhood restaurants in that area. [sorry, no idea what the one we ate at was called, but it was very good]. from there you could wander up into the monti area [cross over via cavor and head towads the via nazionale] exploring the little shops and workshops of the via dei serpenti and the surrounding streets.

from via nazionale, you can catch a no 40 or 64 bus back to corso vittor emanuale.

Day 4 - if you can bear any more culture after the Borghese, i suggest the galleria doria-pamphilji. so many beautiful pictures, so few people! [not sure if it's open mondays, but if it is, it might be a good choice for that day too].

Restaurants. a couple of times we ate at the antica taverna [have a look at my trip report on our Rome trip last feb for more details] and another restaurant just opposite in the same street. both very good. we also liked via coronari very much. you can't go wrong in that area, really.

franco Sep 10th, 2010 04:43 PM

One possible problem is on day 1: "shopping @ Campo dei Fiori" - the market is open mornings only: will you arrive early enough?
As far as gelato, one of Rome's best & most famous is not far from where you stay: Giolitti; and as far as restaurants, you MUST check whether Ada (of Alfredo e Ada) is still in business (it's very unlikely, unfortunately). See http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...estaurants.cfm for addresses and details!

nytraveler Sep 10th, 2010 04:50 PM

Other places you might want to see -

Church of San Clemente is fascinating - since you can descend through the levels representing the history of the church to the earliest Christian church and below it the Temple to the God Mithras. (There is even a British mystery novel set in church modeled after this.)

And if you're interested in Etruscan antiquities have a look at the Vill Giulia - I eps liked the household goods and the make-up items that are 2000 plus years old.

Lexma90 Sep 10th, 2010 07:13 PM

In addition to just wandering around, which is always good (especially if cafe stops are included), what do you like?

- If Michelangelo's works, several churches have pieces
- If paintings, there are superb pieces in several churches, as well as the Palazzo Barberini, which has Raphael's "La Fornarina." The Palazzo itself is beautiful, especially the view from the womens' bathroom
- I particularly liked wandering around Trastevere; there are several very interesting churches, including St. Cecilia and the beautiful sculpture of her - so unlike anything else.

I would also suggest St. Clemente. And that's near the Colosseum, so you could visit that after your Context tour of the Colosseum, Forum, etc. (that is, after lunch).

Dayle Sep 11th, 2010 06:19 AM

wrenwood,

I think you plan sounds great and I also would recommend researching what churches are in the area of your already planned destinations. One of my favorites ws Santa Maria Sopra Minerva, right next to the Pantheon, with the elephant oblisque in front. Beautiful blue ceilings with gold stars and a Michelangelo you can walk right up to. Very dark, pay to light!

I don't know when you are going, but the line to climb up the dome at St. Peter's might be long at that time of day. I went after my Vatican museum tour with Context, late - about 4:15pm. No line, uncrowded and caught a gorgeous sunset with the view!

Buon viaggio!

wrenwood Sep 13th, 2010 01:12 PM

hmmmmmm how late does Campo stay open? Driver is picking us up at FCO @ 10, so by the time we get to our apartment and talk with the owners I bet we couldn't get to Campo before 1:00. As far as shopping for food, it's probably no big deal as I understand there's lots of wonderful stores around. We won't be cooking dinners, just having breakfast at the apartment and maybe packing some snacks.

Santa Maria Sopra Minerva sounds wonderful, what other churches have Michelangelo's works?

It looks like we could go to San Pietro in Vincoli and Santa Maria Sopra Minerva after our Context Tour. We'd then be halfway back to our apartment which is on Via dei Banchi Vecchi. Anything else on that route?

I have thought about the Catacombs, Appian Way for Sunday morning or Monday. I read somewhere it's nice on Sundays as there is no traffic?

Villa Giula is open (according to website) until 7:30, so we could even do that after Galleria Borghese.

Thanks Ann, Antica Taverna looks like it's close enough to our apartment. Franco, finally found Da Alfredo e Ada", via dei Banchi Nuovi, 14 ~ this is the restaurant you were talking about? TA had a 2009 review, so I will hope it's still there, sounds wonderful. Will we have a problem there since we speak no Italian?

Great suggestions!

Anyone have any experiences eating at Roscioli Restaurant, The Library, Ditirambo, or Pierluigi, all of which are close to our apartment?

annhig Sep 13th, 2010 01:55 PM

wrenwood,

Driver is picking us up at FCO @ 10, so by the time we get to our apartment and talk with the owners I bet we couldn't get to Campo before 1:00.>>

do you want to post the reference to your apartment so we can see exactly where it is? probably you will be at the apartment by 11 am, then 30 mins "handover" so you could be ou and about by noon if all goes to plan. use google maps to see where the nearest supermatket is, in case the market is over by the time you get there, but be warned that they often close in the afternoons and don't usually re-open til about 4pm.

we had the problem that we arrived at about 9pm, and we knew that in the morning, we would be desperate for a cup of tea. so after going out for a drink and walk round, we tried to find somewhere to buy some milk but failed miserably, until we asked, and were directed to a bar which was fortunately on the way back to our apartment. yes - they sold milk by the litre, as well as coffee, beer, wine, brandy, etc. just saying that you may need to be flexible!

Dayle Sep 13th, 2010 02:10 PM

wrenwood,

I just love my Streetwise Roma map. Besides being very detailed and laminated, it has a list of sights and churches cross referenced with the map coordinates. Wonderful for impromptu sightseeing! Highly recommend.

annabelle2 Sep 13th, 2010 02:50 PM

Another vote for a visit to atmospheric San Clemente (and if you've ever seen "Roman Holiday" and have a goofy desire to get a photo w/ your hand being swallowed by the Mouth of Truth, la Bocca della Verita, it's not far away).

nytraveler, not to get off topic, but could you post the name of the Brit. mystery set in a similar church? Sounds interesting.

wrenwood, your location will be perfect for evening strolls through Rome to catch the lit-up monuments and fountains. Rick Steves has a decent night walk itinerary outlined in his Italy guidebook; you can do it however you want, but he includes Trastevere as well as the historic center spots.

We enjoyed some potent and delicious absinthe concoctions at a bar in Campo dei Fiore; don't know the name, but just keep an eye out for people with flaming cocktails!

I like the popular but very tasty gelato at il Gelato di San Crispino near the Trevi fountain. Honey pear was memorable.

My favorite thing in Rome: soaking up the vibe in a cafe. Can't get enough!
Have a great trip.

franco Sep 13th, 2010 02:59 PM

wrenwood, the market will be over as soon as you'll get to Campo dei Fiori. Just move that visit to another day, the market is worth it.

Difficult to imagine that anyone speaks English at Alfredo e Ada... you'll be able to say and understand at least a few words in Italian, won't you? You need that elsewhere, too!!! Btw, what do you mean you "finally" found it? I gave you the link to the thread with all the necessary addresses!

<what other churches have Michelangelo's works?>
Well, S. Pietro in Vincoli of course, that's why you want to go there, no? S. Pietro in Vaticano, obviously, and the Sistine Chapel. And the church of S. Maria degli Angeli doesn't HAVE works by Michelangelo but IS a work by Michelangelo (not his very best, perhaps).

On Via Appia, there's never any traffic except for the first stretch - the rest is pedestrianized.

And since you're staying near Campo dei Fiori, don't miss S. Girolamo della Carità, one of Rome's best "minor" churches. A plain baroque church with two anything-but-plain side chapels, one by Borromini (stunning marble imitations of precious textiles), one by Filippo Juvarra (one of Torino's two great baroque architects, and this is his only preserved Roman work as far as I know). Baroque at its very best!!

wrenwood Sep 14th, 2010 09:12 AM

Is the Market open on Sunday and Monday mornings? Those are the 2 days I have nothing scheduled in the morning.

And sorry Franco, yesterday when I tried to google Alfredo e Ada it kept coming up with chippy.com or something bizarre. I then found the address on your thread. And no, we don't speak any Italian, we'll know the barest of tourist words. We had never really thought about going to Italy until my sister-in-law who sometimes travels with us said that Italy was one place she had always wanted to go. Now we are very excited about it!

Put S. Girolamo della Carità on one of my Google Map, thanks. And I think maybe we could squeeze in San Clemente on Day 2. If not, maybe on our unscheduled day, or if we do the Appian way.

I did order the Streetwise Roma Map. Had it on my wishlist at Amazon and had forgotten about it, so thanks for the reminder!

I'm using a Frommers Book "Rome Day by Day". It has some nice walks in it which I'm using to make my own walks on Google Maps, adding suggestions from Fodorites! I even have a "Gelato Map" and San Crispino and Giolitti are both on it. Honey pear sounds wonderful! However I think we'll skip the flaming cocktails!

Question on closing and opening hours. We can be flexible, but it would be a shame to miss something if it can be avoided. We'll be in the more touristy areas, but maybe not at high season (October) I know there's no real answer to the question of how many shops close for a few hours in the afternoon, just wondering about other's experiences.

Delaine Sep 14th, 2010 09:29 AM

I'm trying to mention only things no one else has mentioned; sorry if I repeat.

On Day 2 you could exit the Forum by climbing up the back way to the Capitoline Museums. From the terrace there is a great view of the Forum. I enjoyed visiting the museums too -- lots of sculpture. You could also climb up to the top of the monument to Victor Emmanuel II for an even better view of the Forum and Piazza Venezia.

At the end of Day 3 you might be able to squeeze in a visit to Castel Sant'Angelo if you're not too tired. It has wonderful views from the top too of the Vatican and Ponte Sant'Angelo -- and you can see the angel close-up.

If you like art, when you visit Santa Maria Sopra Minerva, the Pantheon and Piazza Navona, you could visit San Luigi Francesi, which is nearby and has magnificent Caravaggio paintings.

On Day 4 after you visit Galleria Borghese, you could walk through the gardens to the belvedere overlooking Piazza Popolo. The view is great, then you can go down the steps to Santa Maria del Popolo, another church with great Caravaggio paintings.

You might also might wish to visit San Giovanni Laterano, the cathedral of Rome. It is a beautiful church, in my opinion actually prettier inside than St. Peter's.

annhig Sep 14th, 2010 10:01 AM

wrenwood,

the "famous" fruit and veg market is weekdays and sats only; on sunday there is a "flea" market.

ekc Sep 14th, 2010 12:21 PM

2 additional sightseeing suggestions (if you have not previously been there);
(1) he Keyhole of Malta on Aventine Hill (Ron in Rome has a good post on it and how to get there);
(2)Museo Dell’Ara Pacis - one of my favorite sights in Rome.

We had both lunch and dinner at Roscioli on Via dei Giubbonari we loved it so much. Next time I am in Rome I am going to stop there to get supplies for lunch and/or dinner for 1 night - their dried tomatoes are out of this world!

Vttraveler Sep 14th, 2010 01:26 PM

There is no traffic on even the upper part of the Appian Way on Sundays so that is a good time to visit there and the Catacombs. But other days are fine, too, as long as you don't try to walk the upper part.

Other places to go for good views of Rome: Piazzale Garibaldi on the Janiculum and the Pincio Gardens above Piazza del Popolo. Santa Maria del Popolo has some outstanding art.

If you go to the Janiculum you can walk downhill to Trastevere, another good neighborhood to explore. It can be combined with the Jewish ghetto neighborhood across the Tiber mentioned in another thread. Both have good restaurants and are not far from the area where you are staying.

In general be sure to check the hours that churches are open. Most close at midday for several hours.

jaimepom Sep 14th, 2010 04:09 PM

Hello! This itenerary looks great!
I am going to Rome very soon as well and excited to see I am doing some similar stops as you.
Can I ask what hotel you are staying at?

kybourbon Sep 14th, 2010 04:51 PM

Keep in mind that many churches (only 263 Catholic ones in Rome) will close in the afternoon. The Rome tourism website has hours listed. Click on the church you are interested in and the next page will have the hours. Hours can and do change so take this as a rough guide.
http://www.060608.it/en/cultura-e-sv...tico/cattolici

If you are interested in non-Catholic churches:
http://www.060608.it/en/cultura-e-sv...rico-artistico


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