Rome to Amsterdam by Train

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Jan 11th, 2018, 03:45 AM
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Could be better at CT then Milan but would prefer to avoid Paris at this stage, have been there twice before
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Jan 11th, 2018, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassafrass View Post
Where else have you traveled in Italy?
What kinds of places do you most enjoy seeing?
Is Switzerland one of your most desired places to visit?
Have you been to other places near Amsterdam or Belgium?
Are you most interested in coastal areas like CT?

Another unsolicited opinion. Frankfurt has some nice things, but is not a place to base for five weeks for travel.

Five weeks for travel is wonderful!
Been to Venice, Rome, Pisa, Florence so looking at the west coast of Italy then up and on towards Amsterdam via Bern or Zurich? We want also to experience an overnight train (why? cos we can) lol
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Jan 11th, 2018, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Man_in_seat_61 View Post
Civitavecchia to Milan Acquista il biglietto con le nostre offerte - Trenitalia then overnight in Milan.

Bernina Express through the Alps to Chur, https://www.seat61.com/BerninaExpress.htm

Chur-Zurich-Koblenz from €39.90 at German Railways www.bahn.de/en - great views along the Rhine Valley. Though are you doing this on a boat on the way back south?

Koblenz-Cologne-Amsterdam from €29.90 www.bahn.de/en
Bernina Express sounds good, although we return down the Rhine, Main & Danube rivers to Budapest on river cruise. Maybe a slightly different route after Zurich?
We have found a place to base ourselves in Zell, not far from Koblenz, to spend a couple of weeks and spread out for 1 or 2 day trips. Do you think this is a good location and option ?
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Jan 11th, 2018, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PalenQ View Post
Man Seat 61's route also gives you the Glacier Express type experience as Bernina Express trains just the same. Of course there are regular trains as well over the route with the same scenery but the official BEX has though spiffy panoramic observation nearly all-glass cars with commemntary, etc. Bernina Express is to many much more scenic than Glacier Express trains - to me Bernina Pass Railways most awesomely scenic in Europe!
Thanks so much - seems that may be the way to go. You have all been so helpful, awesome. Great forum
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Jan 12th, 2018, 10:37 PM
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Your advice and website are awesome. We have now booked Tirano to Singen as per your advice, on the Bernina Express, @ Euro 39.90 ea. Great value. Is it worth staying overnight at Chur or Zurich on this leg? Seems like it gets to Zurich later in the evening.
Then it is onwards to Amsterdam over 3 days. Maybe Zurich, Frankfurt, Colgne, Amsterdam route.
Are there any overnight trains on this route?
Thanks so much for your input, also PalenQ, Sassafras and all the others. All your comments and suggestions have been welcomed and have had some influence in planning our trip. Very, very much appreciated.
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Jan 17th, 2018, 08:01 PM
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There aren't any night trains on the Zurich - Amsterdam route. High speed trains (ICE) are better.
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Jan 18th, 2018, 01:39 AM
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There aren't any night trains on the Zurich - Amsterdam route. High speed trains (ICE) are better.
Thanks for that welcome advice - we will have to do that another time, maybe.
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Jan 18th, 2018, 08:34 AM
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OVERNIGHT CONNECTION SINGEN - AMSTERDAM:
Singen dp 19.57 - Augsburg ar 22.53, change at Ulm (Regional Express-Intercity Express)
Augsburg dp 23.30 - Düsseldorf ar 8.42 (overnight train with sleeping cars)
Düsseldorf dp 9.13 - Amsterdam ar 11.58 (Intercity Express)

MORE SCENIC ITINERARY:
Singen dp 14.07 - Schwarzwaldbahn (Black Forest railway) - Offenburg 15.59/15.05 - Strasbourg 15.34/16.01 - Luxemburg 17.32/ 1810 - Brussels ar 21.27
Brussels dp 8.52 - Amsterdam ar 10.42
Stopovers at Triberg, Strasbourg, Luxemburg,or Brussels are highly recommended

TIMETABLE TIRANO - SINGEN:
Tirano dp 14.25 - Bernina Express - Chur 18.20/19.09 - Zurich 20.23/20.35 - Singen ar 21.30
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Jan 18th, 2018, 10:22 AM
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Yes no night trains from those German cities to Amsterdam butn high-speed trains do it in a few hours each leg. I'd forget Frankfurt and instead maybe do a smaller cuter more intimate town like Heidelberg or something on the Rhine near Koblenz.
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