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Tdiddy12 Jun 7th, 2025 11:31 AM

Stow-on-the-Wold
We are staying for two nights at Stow-on-the-Wold at the Sheep on Sheep hotel. A very charming town and a charming hotel. Tomorrow we got to explore more of the Cotswolds. Stow is famous for being the sight of one of the last Royalist defeats in 1646, apparently King Charles 1st stayed at the Kings Arms. Latest invasion, according to my sources, a guy who works at a furniture shop here, is Ellen DeGeneres! The word is that she bought an extremely expensive house here.

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The Queen's Head Inn, a nice little pub.
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The cross in the center of the Square
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The Porch House, claiming to be the oldest pub in England, something like 972. I asked the bartender what was the oldest part of the pub and she said that beam right above your head. See said beam
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Interesting saying in someone's window
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St. Edward's Church
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The doors into St. Edward's church flanked by two yew trees. Some say that when Tolkien was here, he used these trees as inspiration for the Doors of Durin

Tdiddy12 Jun 7th, 2025 01:12 PM

Stanway Manor
One of the things we have liked about Rick Steves tours is that you generally spend two nights in one location and then do a day trip. So from Bath we went to Avebury and Oxford and then to Stow-on-the-Wold for two nights. Today we went to Stanway Manor house. It's only about 10 minutes away, then we drove through the Cotswolds and got back into Stow with the afternoon on our own. Our guide at Stanway was named Paul and he was a hoot. Gave us a nice tour of the manor, about 4 rooms that we saw and then we saw the mill. The Estate of Stanway goes back to 715 and it belonged to an abbey. In 1533 it was leased to Richard Tracy and the descendents have lived here ever since.The current owner is James Charteris, 13th Earl of Weymss. He is usually is around but not today. It was a really different thing to do and I don't think a lot of tours stop here.

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Looking back at the main gate of Stanway house.
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Side shot from the yard.
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Ya gotta have a pond!
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He has a water fountain that I believe is run by natural pressure unlike the Bellagio is pumped out, according to Paul.
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Scene inside the mill. It has been rebuilt and is producing a lot of flour that goes to local restaurants.

Tdiddy12 Jun 8th, 2025 08:57 PM

On To Wales
Today we are finishing up our stay in the Cotswolds and heading to Wales, but first we have two stops. The first is Stokesay Castle. This is one of the few surviving fortified manor houses run by the English Heritage. It dates back to 1317 by Laurence of Ludlow who got the blessing of the King to add fortifications. It's been through a number of private owners over the years, and it was finally given to the English Heritage in 1992. It's been restored and there are some nice "mock-up" posters that show how it might have looked back then. Also there is a good audio guide. Next we had a pit stop to see the River Dee in Llangollen.

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Castle from the outside
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Entry through the Gate House
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The Grand Hall where the feasting might have taken place
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Main hang out place for the family. I don't know if they had cable
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Detail over the fireplace
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Another big room
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This is the large south tower and you can wall all the the way to the top. Did I say walk? Climb is more like it
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Some baby swallows in a nest in one of the rooms. I was told the Castle is kept open to let the swallows come in
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Another outside view from the moat
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Falls at Llangollen
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Hoping to see a steam train, but no luck

Tdiddy12 Jun 9th, 2025 04:04 AM

Conwy, Wales
We have entered a new country, Wales! There has been, historically some discrepancy if it was a principality or a country. I can say it is a country. Wales, along with Scotland and England make up Great Britain. Add in Northern Ireland and you have the United Kingdom. Add in the Isle of Man, Isla of Dogs and Isle of Parakeets and you have the British Isles. Some may think that this explanation is unnecessary, however, before I got here I thought England was where muffins came from, ( they don't) and 60 years ago today, Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play. Conwy is bigger than Stow, has a wall around it and a castle, and appears to be kind of a party place. Lot's of restaurants and little shops. We are staying at the Castle Hotel feels very upscale. Had a group dinner at the hotel then on our own.


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Suspension Bridge coming into town
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Towers at Conwy Castle
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More Castle
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Statue of Llywelyn the Great, not to be confused with Llywelyn the So-So. Lived here from 1173 and 1240
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Down at the Harbor, actually on an estuary which really drains down at low tide.
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Smallest house in Britain. No one around so I don't know the details.
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You can climb up and walk around the city walls. Parts of it were closed but we still got pretty far up.
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Front of Plas Mawr which was built during Elizabeth the 1st's reign.
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The Mussel Statue, I'm going on a limb here and saying that mussels are found here although it is not a month with an R.

Tdiddy12 Jun 10th, 2025 01:28 PM

Llanfairfechen
Today started out with rain and we are going to be outside. We are visiting a sheep farm and having a shearing demonstration and to learn about being a sheep farmer. Llanfairfechan is a little town about 10 minutes from Conwy. We are met at the bottom of the hill by Gareth Wyn Jones, who has built a covered trailer to take us up the hill to his farm. It was a great morning, even with the rain. Gareth is a bigger than life character and his wife Rhian is lovely. He picked a couple of people off the tour to "help" him wrangle up some sheep. Actually it's part of the show and actually Max the dog did most of the work. So after driving the sheep into a pen, our "team" picked out a yearling for it's first shearing. It was very interesting how the lamb just laid back into the V of his legs and let itself be shorn.
Disclaimer: None of us know who Gareth Wyn Jones is. Once we got back we Googled him and found out he has 2 million followers on Youtube, is on the BBC quite often and has more money than we think. Is he a bombastic person and controversial, I guess. Is he as rich as it says on Google, I doubt it. Does he speak for the farming community, yes. Is a very entertaining individual, Hell yes.

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Loading up on the trailer, a lot of hunched shoulders
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There go the volunteers!
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Bringing back contestant #1
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Let the shearing begin
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Giving us a lesson about sheep farming. I don't think you can see it well but there is a big poster for Snowdonia 1890, which was a show he was on

Tdiddy12 Jun 10th, 2025 01:41 PM

Caernarfon Castle and Snowdonia National Park
After our sheep herdin' we headed to Caernarfon for a guided tour of the castle. One of the cons of any structured trip is that you don't get to spend enough time in places you would like to linger. We only had about a half hour after our tour to rage through the castle and repel bad guys. The drive through Snowdonia or Eryri National Park was breath taking. I'm used to most of the US National Parks but this is right up there with them.

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One of the side streets of Caernarfon. The town is very popular and it was filled, although this street looks kind of empty, it got busier later.
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Shot from outside the Castle just before entering
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Another outside shot
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Welcoming scuplture
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Inside the walls
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I guess they had more than enough stones to build this wall
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These shots really don't do it justice, taken from the bus.
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Long waterfall cascading down the mountain

ANUJ Jun 10th, 2025 07:18 PM

Enjoying your report. We spent a few nights in Betws-y-Coed few years ago, and wished we had more time for Wales.

Tdiddy12 Jun 11th, 2025 10:58 AM

Conwy to Keswick
Today we are leaving Wales. No rain and not sunny but cloudy. Our first stop is Bodnant Gardens, 80 acres of a large variety of terrains. These are the gardens of Bodnant Hall which have been donated to the National Trust by the Aberconway family who still live in the house. I think it might be one of my favorite stops on the trip. Man can make a lot of really cool buildings but they can still pale against nature. Did the terraces, then into the forest to the old mill and back up this hill to the house. Could have spent all day. We met an older couple who come every two weeks. Good on 'em.

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Walking up to the start of the gardens past Bodnant Hall
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Working our way along the Terraces
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Add some more color, please
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A pond just off the Terraces
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Looking at the pond in front of the Pin Mill
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Please let me into the gardens...well, OK.
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Shot of the Pin Mill at the end of the long narrow pond
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In the forest over by the Old Mill
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Water falls at the Old Mill
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On the way back to Bodnant Hall

Tdiddy12 Jun 12th, 2025 10:20 AM

The Lake District - Castlerigg Stone Circle
Just before you get into Keswick, there is a stone circle which is about a 10 minute walk off the road. The circle has 38 stones and is believed to be about 5,000 years old. It's free, you do have to walk and then have to climb a couple of cantilevered pavers to get into the field. It was a pretty nice setting, although after we had walked 10 minutes, you could see a road right behind the circle that was two minutes away! Probably no parking for the bus.

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Climbing on the cantilevered rocks to see the Stone Circle
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Long shot with people in the middle
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Up close, it was fun to walk around. There was a little girl, 5 or 6 jumping from stone to stone.
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Couple of old Druids. Notice the dark clouds, this doesn't bode well.
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We just got back from playing paintball, it was a blast
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More stones
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All lined up in a row

Tdiddy12 Jun 13th, 2025 08:28 AM

Keswick - Pronounced Kezick
This past January we met two wonderful people, Andy and Barbara, from England and we told them we would be in England in June and visiting a Lake District town called Keswick. They corrected us that it is pronounced Kezick. Well we caught up with them and had a wonderful dinner. It was our misfortune to have pretty rainy weather in Keswick. We did get in a lake hike and a boat ride around Derwentwater Lake before the heavens opened up. So we didn't get to walk around the town much, only to get our laundry actually and then walked in the rain to a group fish and chips dinner.

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Things were looking good when we first got into town
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Boats for 3 or 4 people moored on the beach on Derwentwater
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Hope Park just down from our hotel
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Shot of a meadow with trees
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This is the boat we took out on the lake
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Island with a big house on it and a dock
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The Lake District is very beautiful with mountains and lot's of forest around the lakes.
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Several small islands in Derwentwater Lake

bilboburgler Jun 13th, 2025 09:39 AM

It is Derwentwater, not Derwentwater Lake. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derwentwater

Fra_Diavolo Jun 13th, 2025 11:39 AM

Thanks for the shots of Keswick. In NYC there's a shop called Myers of Keswick featuring British foods. We've gone to it since it opened back in the Seventies or Eighties -- can't remember. It's the best place to buy bangers, Cumberland sausage, pork and stilton pies, etc.

Enjoying your report.

Tdiddy12 Jun 13th, 2025 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by bilboburgler (Post 17660134)
It is Derwentwater, not Derwentwater Lake. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derwentwater

Got it! I'm looking at the map now, I guess saying Derwentwater LAKE is like saying Derwentwaterwater!

Tdiddy12 Jun 13th, 2025 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Fra_Diavolo (Post 17660158)
Thanks for the shots of Keswick. In NYC there's a shop called Myers of Keswick featuring British foods. We've gone to it since it opened back in the Seventies or Eighties -- can't remember. It's the best place to buy bangers, Cumberland sausage, pork and stilton pies, etc.

Enjoying your report.

My one slight bummer on this trip is that I didn't get to spend more time walking around Keswick because of the rain.

JohnEW2912 Jun 13th, 2025 01:25 PM

It’s often quoted that there is only one lake in the Lake District - Bassenthwaite Lake, just north of you in Keswick. All the others are either waters or meres.

Tdiddy12 Jun 13th, 2025 01:37 PM

Friends, Romans, Countrymen
Heading to York but the first part is all about the Romans. First stop is Vindolanda, and old Roman colony and fort. It was under Roman occupation from around 85AD until 370 AD. Although there were some historical accounts of being aware of the site in the 1600's and 1800's, it seems like excavation really started when a guy, Eric Birley bought the farm that the ruins are on, and started digging n the 1930's! A lot of stuff was found, tons of stone artifacts and on the day we were there a woman found a roman coin! Other really interesting things were these wooden ink tablets that scientists have been able to retrieve writing. One was an invitation to birthday party. There are dozens of shoes and a pair of boxing gloves, I bet they belonged to Cassius Clayus.

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Sculpture at the entrance to the site. Not sure if this was found there.
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You can get an idea how big the site was. It had a fort and a vicus, a town which would grow around the soldiers
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Walls of a bath
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Some tiles that would be used to heat the floor or make a sweat lodge.
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Statue at entrance to the museum
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Old Roman stone thingy, yes I think that's the technical name
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Lot's of shoes. They were pressed down into mud and then had layers of dirt on top helping to keep them intact.
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One of the ink tablets. i won't attempt to describe the process of retrieving the letters. This one was an invitation to a party and its says, "Please don't bring your famous deviled eggs, they give Claudius gas."

Tdiddy12 Jun 13th, 2025 11:10 PM

Hadrian's Wall
Just down the road a piece from Vindolanda is Homesteads Roman Fort. This will be our access to take a look at Hadrian's Wall. I won't go into a lot of detail about Hadrian's wall, Google it, it's quite a story. I will say that I was surprised to learn that it stretches from Coast to Coast in England, which is only 73 miles, or about the length of Los Angeles.. Building began in 122AD during Hadrian's reign. There was system of milecastles, every mile? We hiked up to one. It's not believed to be too terribly defensive, although there were large ditches in front of the wall our milecastle had a small gate and a small bottle of hand sanitizer! (put joke here) It was quite a trek up the hill to see the wall. We didn't go into Homesteads but it is another fort like Vindolanda.


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Parking lot at Homesteads. Not quite full but more than a few cars and some coaches
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Us, starting up the hill. We are headed to the trees in the top middle of the picture. Sure glad I'm not a Roman in armour.
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A pretty good view of the wall stretching out before me.
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I'm actually walking on the wall. There is a little bit here to walk on. People hike the entire wall and we saw a number of people with trekking bags.
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Another shot
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Still another shot off into the horizon
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And here is the milecastle. There was an outline of a few rooms or maybe guardhouse. Given it's name I'm lead to believe that there was one of these every Roman mile.

elydah Jun 13th, 2025 11:37 PM

Thanks Tdiddy12. I am really enjoying your photos and commentary.

bilboburgler Jun 13th, 2025 11:49 PM

hard to imagine what this was like with mainly trees in all directions which is a more likely landscape

In terms of multiple names there are seven rivers called Avon or Afon in the UK.

Avon and Afon means river.

Tdiddy12 Jun 14th, 2025 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by elydah (Post 17660249)
Thanks Tdiddy12. I am really enjoying your photos and commentary.

Thanks elydah! Sadly, I'm sitting on my bed at the Kensington Radisson trying to get the last few days of our trip into my Trip Report.

Tdiddy12 Jun 14th, 2025 01:51 AM

York - Day One
After mingling with the Roman ruins we have landed in York. We took a brief overview walk in the evening and I am downloading some pictures from the walk with our guide Alfred. I really am liking York, all the history of London, throw in a little Harry Potter and I found a jazz nite! This place has it all.

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We are staying in the Radisson Blu on the west bank of the river Ouse. Some of the buildings right across the river.
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Some of those same buildings from Mickelgate Bridge later in the evening
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Walking from Exhibition Square to Bootham Bar. A gate is called a Bar and a road is called a Gate. Hey I didn't make this up, blame the Vikings.
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Walking down Bootham gate or sometimes Row. Man this is getting confusing
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York Minster, we will see more of that tomorrow
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Statue of Constantine the Great. Apparently he was crowned Emperor here when his dad, Constantine the Not So Great died. All of this history is second hand.
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Clifford's Tower by the Castle Museum
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Just a random street scene with umbrellas
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Had to add this, real old insignia and a real new insignia
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Tudor house somewhere in the middle of the city

Tdiddy12 Jun 14th, 2025 02:05 AM

York - Day Two Morning
Started off with another walk, this time with our Rick Steves guide Jamie. York really is a very fun city to walk around. Here are some more pictures.

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Ruins from the Abbey
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Bridge and reflection shot
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The Shambles, a nice relaxed market with all kinds of things
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Front entrance of the Merchant Adventurers Hall. Definitely worth a visit
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Inside the Merchant and Adventurers Hall
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Chapel in same Hall
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Back entrance, which is actually the main ticket entrance today

Tdiddy12 Jun 14th, 2025 05:52 AM

York - Day Two Afternoon
We had been scheduled to go to York Minster, but then it was off for some reason. While we were taking our initial tour of York I saw Jamie, our Rick Steves guide, talking with someone at the front of the Minster. All of a sudden, it was on again! We had a great lunch at a North African restaurant and then we were in to the Minster. Unfortunately I took a ton of pictures with my camera, but not that many with my phone, which is what I download from. Either way it was quite magnificent, I would highly recommend going. We went back to the York Minster for Evensong and that was also a great experience. I got my jazz fix at Museum Pub, but caught a descending sun on our last day in York. I have to say I loved York the most of all our towns that we visited. I want to come back.

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York Minster was spared some of the destruction of the Cromwell era because someone on the inside was from York and he told the Reformists, lay off York.
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This is the Charter House attached to the Minster. Another great ceiling. There's also a nice museum detailing the Gothic cathedral that was originally here.
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This is the top of the entrance to the King's Manor. A number of Kings visited this site, Henry the 8th being one of the them. We were told this is where he found out that his, 5th wife, Catherine Howard. was cheating on him. Given Henry's disposition I'm guessing that she wasn't the smarted head in the basket. She was executed after 18 months of marriage.
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Station Road bridge.
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Great detail of the bridge.
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Some nice jazz, vibes, bass piano and drums. Lot's of Charlie Parker which was kind of funny with no horn, but the still cooked.
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Goodnight York, hope to see you again

Tdiddy12 Jun 14th, 2025 06:01 AM

Travel Day
We are taking the train to London. As a tour guide myself, doing a two hour Art Deco tour in Los Angeles, I am giving our tour guide, Jamie, huge kudos for wrangling all us kittens on the train!
Last night at Jazz night, I met three young boppers from the University here, into Jazz, God Bless them. I said I heard that the train station here was in Harry Potter and they all said no that's in Kings Cross. The young lady of the three whipped out her phone and said well it says here they used the York station. Probably both locations. Shout out if you know the truth.

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Look at that Roof!
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The detail in York is everywhere and all of these bright colors.
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Oh, oh, gotta go, my ride is here.

Tdiddy12 Jun 15th, 2025 07:17 AM

London - Will the Circle Be Unbroken
Apparently in this case the Circle is not Unbroken, although plotting it out on a Google map it is more like a long oblong around England. London, Salisbury, Bath, Stow-on-the Wold, detour to Conwy, Wales, Keswick, York and back to London. We have a nice easy train ride from York, although I have to say, London trains have nothing on long haul Mexican buses for comfort! Pull into Kings Cross and load up on another bus for our tour of St. Paul's Cathedral at 2:00PM. Rick's tours are pretty active. We have had a number of cancellations this trip with the Cathedrals, Wells was closed, York Minster, off and then on. Our original itinerary was for Westminster Abbey, but it's closed, so we are going to St. Paul's instead. I've never been inside Westminster Abbey, I've stood outside it and for my money, St. Paul's wins, so I'm Ok with the exchange. A lot of us did want to go to Westminster Abbey because I think it's more famous in the US. After the tour we head to Kensington and our last stay on the tour.

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St. Paul's is so big that you can't see the dome if you are walking around the park next to the Cathedral. I'm across the street here.
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We were on our own for lunch, lot's of places to choose from and then we are to meet at the statue of Queen Anne, there she is!
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Britain is celebrating VE day and there is an outside display about the volunteers that helped save the church during the Blitz, this is a famous photo of St. Paul's standing!
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Inside, it's very beautiful, we had a nice tour with Isabel.
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Lot's of bling in here.
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The font is very different from the modern one in Salisbury, it's there on the right.
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We are in the crypt now, there's Florence Nightengale
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What's a crypt without Wellington
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Hey don't forget Nelson!

Tdiddy12 Jun 15th, 2025 08:07 AM

London - Last Full Day
We are up and out early for a Tube ride to the London Tower. For many in our group this is the first time riding the Tube, but we are old hands, knowing for instance, that it is the Tube and not the Metro or Subway! Jamie is determined to get in front of the line to see the The Crown Jewels as soon as it opens and he succeeds. I was really impressed with how the Royal Jewels are displayed, they are all in cases of course but there is an ongoing film on the walls around with historical context. You get to see footage of the investiture of Prince Charles as Prince Wales and there is the crown he wore in the case. So many crowns, one for when you are made the king or queen, one for daily use when doing light housework around the castle etc. I thought it was very interesting, Royalist or not. The. Tower stands in the middle of a big palace. Something most of us were surprised to see. We thought the Tower was like the jail in Mayberry with Floyd and Andy chewing the fat. No, it's surrounded by grounds and a lot of other towers outside of the Tower itself. So some prisoners were able to wander around the complex until curfew.



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We were greeted by this guy when we crossed under the walkway to the Tower. There is a large part of the original Roman wall that is still preserved from when this was Londonium.
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We tourists were delighted to see this sign, in earlier times it was probably not as popular, if you were going to lose your head for instance.
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The White Tower, which we think of as Thee Tower, but there is actually a Bloody Tower and a Torturer Tower. I think I saw a Taco Tuesday Tower, but I digress.
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Currently there are all of these flowers everywhere on the grounds. This may be for VE day not sure.
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Chapel inside the White Tower
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There is a big display of horses with armor of the kings. At one time there was a display of each king on a horse?
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This is King Henry the 8th on a horse with armor.
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Here is a picture of Henry's armor in his "fat" Elvis stage
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Not much to say, a. big row of Breast Plates, not sure of there historical significance, but I'm pretty sure they are not from Old Navy
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One guy who wasn't happy to see the Welcome to the London Tower sign, Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex. He was a favorite of Queen Elizabeth the 1st, until he wasn't. Last person to be beheaded in the Tower, February 25, 1601.

Tdiddy12 Jun 15th, 2025 04:12 PM

Rollin' on the River
Our last group activity was to get on a boat at Tower Millennium Pier and motor down the Thames to the Westminster Pier. Taking a boat is a great way to see the City and a nice finish to our tour...although, the Missus and I are not done.

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Our fearless leader Jamie. He did a great job, always knowledgeable but entertaining as well. A lot of respect for moving us around the country, bus, train, boat and Tube.
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Tower Bridge. Didn't get a chance to see it up close, will have to come back
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The Old London City Hall. This is what Google calls it. It looks pretty modern to me, but maybe they've moved to a new City Hall.
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People walking over the Millienium Bridge
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Cleopatra's Needle with Sphinx. This is an ancient Egyptian obelisk, given to the British people for kicking Napoleon in the pants...and out of Egypt. Having been to the British Museum, it looks like a lot of other stuff may have "fallen off the truck" and landed in London
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Here's the money shot, Westminster Bridge, the Houses of Parliment and the Elizabeth Tower ( Big Ben for us Americans), and a little bit of Westminster Abbey

Tdiddy12 Jun 15th, 2025 04:35 PM

Don't Forget the V&A
We have one more stop. When we were in Paddington, like a month ago we didn't get a chance to go to the Victoria and Albert Museum so we head there before our final group dinner. It's really incredible that London has so many fantastic museums. The V&A though differently themed than the British Museum, is chock full of great things. We took a quick one hour tour of Britain 1500 - 1700 with one of the docents. We saw the Music Room of the Duke of York, early bibles and the most intriguing, embroidered panels by Mary Queen of Scots. Something about that really caught my imagination. So that was the last of our sight seeing in London, we are just down Cromwell Road at the Radisson, so now we have to pack.

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Entrance into the V & A. Victoria must have really loved this guy is all I can say.
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A large hanging Dale Chilhuly in the Rotunda. The V & A is big on decorative arts
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They actually call it the Plaster Court.
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This is the fig leaf that was applied to the plaster cast of the statue of David by Michelangelo. This was necessary because in Victorian times, the ladies had a hard time looking at David in the eye! Hey eyes up here! This is very funny, I mean Victoria had 9 children so at least someone knew what was behind the fig leaf
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This is a staircase from a three story building. They have crazy stuff in here.

Tdiddy12 Jun 15th, 2025 04:47 PM

28 Glorious Days in England
If someone said in one word describe England, I would say sheep. We saw so many sheep, walking on hikes, through Roman ruins, Stone Circles, they were everywhere. I was so impressed with England, I can not believe it took me 71 years to get there. The people were just the friendliest people, always asking how we were, how did we like it there. The food was really good, even though I had fish and chips a lot, I could eat it all the time, one big long plank of white fish not the two or three little pieces we get in the States. One thing that was unexpected, you can't spend cash there, everything is card only. I brought 300 pounds and ended up with 50 still in my pocket. Another thing that made the trip enjoyable was they all speak English! I know, this should be understood, but after traveling in many countries, trying to communicate in a different language, it was so easy to be able to communicate in...well, English! The history is amazing, the countryside is absolutely gorgeous, and the cities are a treat. Hands down my favorite was York, I wish we had more time. London was fun don't get me wrong, but York was more laid back. I can't wait to go back again!


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We took the Picadilly line right to the airport. Are you listening Los Angeles?
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Virgin Atlantic, only 10 hours until we are home!

bilboburgler Jun 15th, 2025 11:11 PM

Glad you liked it.

JohnEW2912 Jun 16th, 2025 01:38 AM

You're right that the Old City Hall isn't very old. It was opened in 2021 to house the Greater London Authority, which was created two years earlier. The Authority covers all of Greater London, which is very roughly the area inside the M25 and has a population of around 9m. It however only has limited powers as most local power is held by the local boroughs (e.g. Southwark, Westminster etc). Its most important role for visitors is probably transport as it manages Transport for London and your tube ride to Heathrow. The building was only ever leased and the current mayor decided to move to a building the Authority owned further east to save money. I remember once attending a reception on the top floor of the building many years ago.

If you enjoyed the V&A be aware that the V&A Storehouse has just opened in Stratford - a huge treasure trove of a building where you can actually ask to see specific items in the V&A collection but not on display. By next Spring a V&A East Museum will open next door to the Storehouse as well.

bilboburgler Jun 16th, 2025 01:48 AM

I like your comment about V&A liking decorative art. You are getting the hang of British understatement

Tdiddy12 Jun 16th, 2025 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by JohnEW2912 (Post 17660702)
You're right that the Old City Hall isn't very old. It was opened in 2021 to house the Greater London Authority, which was created two years earlier. The Authority covers all of Greater London, which is very roughly the area inside the M25 and has a population of around 9m. It however only has limited powers as most local power is held by the local boroughs (e.g. Southwark, Westminster etc). Its most important role for visitors is probably transport as it manages Transport for London and your tube ride to Heathrow. The building was only ever leased and the current mayor decided to move to a building the Authority owned further east to save money. I remember once attending a reception on the top floor of the building many years ago.

If you enjoyed the V&A be aware that the V&A Storehouse has just opened in Stratford - a huge treasure trove of a building where you can actually ask to see specific items in the V&A collection but not on display. By next Spring a V&A East Museum will open next door to the Storehouse as well.

Our Docent told us about this and I thought it was really amazing that you could request and then get to see something not on display. It seems like an interesting process, I wonder if there is any limit to the size of an item you can request? Who pays for all of this? Is the V&A a foundation or a national organization?

PatrickLondon Jun 16th, 2025 06:15 AM

A national body based (like the other South Kensington museums) on the foundations provided by the profits from the Great Exhibition of 1851, and run by trustees, but largely funded by government as well as what it makes by commercial operations.

https://www.vam.ac.uk/east/storehouse/visit

Tdiddy12 Jun 16th, 2025 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by bilboburgler (Post 17660703)
I like your comment about V&A liking decorative art. You are getting the hang of British understatement

LOL, Indeed, if you can call a 20ft Chihuly and an entire music room, decorative!

Morgana Jun 16th, 2025 06:40 AM

Many thanks for a very entertaining trip report. You certainly packed a lot in.
Great that you enjoyed York. I am fortunate enough to live in North Yorkshire, in a tiny village with a field of sheep immediately behind my house!
Some of the most beautiful medieval churches in England are known as Wool Churches as they were built many hundreds of years ago on the proceeds of the very lucrative wool trade. Suffolk has some particularly stunning examples, especially in Long Melford and Lavenham. I think you would like Suffolk and you definitely need to explore more of North Yorkshire - I think you would like Whitby too!
I'd love to know more about your thoughts on English food. Fish and chips clearly went down well, but anything else you particularly liked or indeed disliked?
Hope you had a smooth, uneventful trip home.

SusanP Jun 16th, 2025 11:27 AM

Have been enjoying your report. Full of good information and great pictures! Glad you had such a nice time.

Tdiddy12 Jun 16th, 2025 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Morgana (Post 17660758)
Many thanks for a very entertaining trip report. You certainly packed a lot in.
Great that you enjoyed York. I am fortunate enough to live in North Yorkshire, in a tiny village with a field of sheep immediately behind my house!
Some of the most beautiful medieval churches in England are known as Wool Churches as they were built many hundreds of years ago on the proceeds of the very lucrative wool trade. Suffolk has some particularly stunning examples, especially in Long Melford and Lavenham. I think you would like Suffolk and you definitely need to explore more of North Yorkshire - I think you would like Whitby too!
I'd love to know more about your thoughts on English food. Fish and chips clearly went down well, but anything else you particularly liked or indeed disliked?
Hope you had a smooth, uneventful trip home.

We definitely would like to come back to York and the area around and explore at a normal pace. I looked up Whitby and the Abbey reminds me of Ireland. Maybe Cashel. Thoughts on English food? That is a very interesting question. There is an old stereo type that English food is boring, but we found the food to be very good. That being said, of what you might call English food, I'm not sure how much we ate. Full English breakfast, yes, not too sure about the blood pudding. I had excellent bangers and mash in Keswick with that Cumberland sausage, delicious. Sticky toffee pudding, more please! Had a couple of fish pies and a Sunday Roast, both very good. One of the things that surprised us was the cleverly disguised chains in England. For example, we had really nice meals in Salisbury at Cote and Cosy Club. Thought they were both unique in their own way. Nope, both are in Bath and saw a Cote in London and I think York. Zizzi which made a very good pizza, they are all around. We had excellent fish in England, not just fish and chips, also salmon, haddock and sea bass. One thing that is interesting is that the fish we had was served skin side up, usually on a bed of rice or potatoes. In the States it's usually served skin side down. It doesn't matter really but we both noticed that. As for other food, we had Egyptian/ Mediterranean at Hayat in Paddington, North African in York, also I had a very tasty steak at Rafael's in Bath. Biggest surprise, I only had one hamburger the whole trip. Looking back after two days home, we ate really well in England and I have the belly to prove it!


Morgana Jun 17th, 2025 01:47 AM

Glad you enjoyed the food here. I eat almost anything but I can’t face blood (normally known as black) pudding.
Interesting about how your fish was served. When it comes to fish and chips it tends to be served skin on down south and skin off up north. This is a very general rule though.
My dad (a southerner) always maintained that the skin was the best part!
Whitby has many attractions. The Abbey and its setting is spectacular, the town has Dracula links but it’s also the unofficial fish and chips capital of the country.
It has some superb fish and chips shops and causes endless discussion of which is the best!

PJTravels Jun 17th, 2025 08:12 PM

Such a fun report! I'd love to take another trip to England - perhaps a walking trip. Your experience with a tour intrigued me as we are beginning to look at tours. Don't know if I could handle being part of a 30 person pack, though. Off to read more of your trip reports. Thanks!


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