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Fra_Diavolo Jul 25th, 2019 07:51 AM

I think he has the made the required amends. I also agree with maitai that this site can be mighty rough on the boy.

janisj Jul 25th, 2019 08:53 AM

Decent statement and does what it is designed to do.

But a tad disingenuous IMO when he says >> But I completely goofed up on this one. In the UK, the middle lane is for passing, not cruising — and now I know that . . .<< since he has been traveling to the UK/driving there for more than 25 years.

MmePerdu Jul 25th, 2019 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 16959329)
. . . a tad disingenuous IMO . . . since he has been traveling to the UK/driving there for more than 25 years.

Or as I suspect, it may be that he's traveled on UK roads with someone else driving and never paid much attention to the details. A case of an expert who doesn't know what he doesn't know.

Cowboy1968 Jul 25th, 2019 09:55 AM

Hugging the center lane is not allowed and a nuisance.
Using the "slow" lane to pass someone hugging the center lane is the worse offense, though. Just like those drivers in the video.
Anyone clear in his mind would use the "fast" lane to pass, as it is mandatory unless traffic was just crawling on all lanes.

MmePerdu Jul 25th, 2019 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Cowboy1968 (Post 16959391)
Hugging the center lane is not allowed and a nuisance. . .

Precisely the same in the US in reverse, nothing new and he would have realized if he'd given it any thought or was actually the all-around expert he thinks he is. It was simple arrogance, apology or no apology.


phillyboy Jul 25th, 2019 12:08 PM

A proper and sincere apology. As many others have pointed out, he is not to everyone's taste … I quite like some of his stuff, and don't care for some of his other stuff. But I think he is a well-meaning, honest guy with integrity. This thread is a classic example of piling on.

OReilly64 Jul 25th, 2019 12:18 PM

He would have lost 6 points off his UK licence if he had been caught on the phone -that is how serious thgis is. Aand a few hundred pounds fine for both that and straddling the middle lane.


Would he be forgiven if he had had a few pints in a pub and then driven? Same thing. We have had horrific accidents recently due to people being on their phones. His disingenuous 'cute' response does not address the severity of the crime.

suze Jul 25th, 2019 12:50 PM

I do not find his statement either "disingenuous" or "cute".

There is nothing the man could say or do (even before this particular incident) that would please 80% of the people on Fodor's. Their minds are closed to him.

MmePerdu Jul 25th, 2019 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by phillyboy (Post 16959469)
A proper and sincere apology. As many others have pointed out, he is not to everyone's taste … I quite like some of his stuff, and don't care for some of his other stuff. But I think he is a well-meaning, honest guy with integrity. This thread is a classic example of piling on.

I see no innate conflict between our statements. I also like some of his programs, not the style so much as to see places I don't know about and might like information. He's understandably popular and, so, successful. That, I believe, can lead to an arrogance that resulted in this incident. Not dishonest and yes, well-meaning, but nonetheless making false assumptions about his own knowledge, then acting on it. I don't see it as "piling on" but going deeper than the obviously likeable guy. That isn't all he is and now he's given us a glimpse of the inner Rick. And I suspect it's had an impact on his thinking. He'll be a bit smarter likeable guy.

OReilly64 Jul 25th, 2019 12:57 PM

It has nothing to do with him 'pleasing' people on Fodor's. That is completely irrelevant. It has to do with recognizing and abiding by the laws of the UK (and most other European countries) re use of phones and driving) and simple common sense.

maitaitom Jul 25th, 2019 01:10 PM

When I was a kid (and sometimes an adult) if I made a mistake (which was often). my dad and I would chat, and I would (usually) say, "I'm sorry." Many times he'd put his hand in my shoulder and say, "OK, let's move on." Steves had a traffic violation and mispronounced a couple of names. It's not an international crisis. As my dad would say, "OK, let's move on."

suze Jul 25th, 2019 01:28 PM

That is completely irrelevant.

Well it's gotten 92 comments then that are "completely irrelevant".

PatrickLondon Jul 25th, 2019 01:42 PM

I do trust his future advice is going to refer prospective drivers in the UK to the source for what they need to be doing and not doing:

The Highway Code

OReilly64 Jul 25th, 2019 01:48 PM

Thank you Patrick! :)

MmePerdu Jul 25th, 2019 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by maitaitom (Post 16959498)
. . . As my dad would say, "OK, let's move on."

As I would say, "Feel free."


maitaitom Jul 25th, 2019 02:30 PM

"As my dad would say, "OK, let's move on."

"As I would say, "Feel free."

Oh, so sorry, I forgot you guys were beating a dead horse.

((H))

MmePerdu Jul 25th, 2019 02:59 PM

I'm always fascinated, well not exactly fascinated, when 1 participant tires of a thread and declares it ended.

phillyboy Jul 25th, 2019 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by maitaitom (Post 16959536)
"as my dad would say, "ok, let's move on."

"as i would say, "feel free."

oh, so sorry, i forgot you guys were beating a dead horse.

((h))

👍 👍


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