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stevetx Feb 15th, 2016 02:12 PM

Returning to London...British Pie Week
 
I'm visiting London March 6-11 and just noticed an event called British Pie Week during the same dates. I've already been to many of the popular tourist attractions and planning some different things for this trip. Some highlights include:
Staying at the Rosewood London
Garden tours...I wanted to visit Highgrove House gardens but it isn't open yet in early March.
Sir John Soane's ( I just realized it's very near the hotel)
Mansion House and Spencer House tour
St Martin-in-the-Fields (looking at performance options)
Happy hour and dinner at Cliveden House

It would be fun to include British Pie Week too. What is your favorite pie or favorite pub to order a pie? I've only had the traditional mince pie in the past but love trying new things. I found good reviews for these pubs near the hotel.
Ship Tavern
Cittie of Yorke
Ye Olde Mitre

MmePerdu Feb 15th, 2016 02:29 PM

I had a game pie once, can't tell you exactly where, I was walking the Cotswold Way and stopped for lunch. It sounded interesting but I suspect the game in question had been hung a bit too long as queasy set in by evening. But as in all adventures, one must remember, it could have been worse. In any case, I doubt it will tempt me again.

Lexma90 Feb 15th, 2016 03:21 PM

I love pies, of any type, despite their "healthful" reputation. We have gotten pies several times at the Battersea Pie Station, in Covent Garden. They have some lovely vegetarian options (and meat pies too); I think I had one with sweet potatoes.

Sir John Soane's house / museum, my entire family finds very interesting.

Weekender Feb 15th, 2016 05:25 PM

I stayed at the Rosewood last year and it is a great choice.. Scarfes Bar is a beauty!

I am going on March 3 for a couple of days and will be at the Ham Yard hotel. Check it out if you have time. A mini village in Soho.

janisj Feb 15th, 2016 05:58 PM

Ooh -- weekender, Have you stayed at the Ham Yard before? I'm trying to squeeze in a short trip in late May and was thinking of staying there.

northie Feb 15th, 2016 09:10 PM

Mince pie is sweet - not sure if you realze the pies will be meat usually and or vegetables .
I find John Soames house so overcrowded I didn't enjoy it but I am still glad I went to see what it's all about.
Many pubs have a pie of the night special .- fish pie, steak and kidney are 2 of my favs .
I recommend concert ar St Martin in the field - aside from the music the candle lit interior gave an amazing atmosphere .

northie Feb 15th, 2016 09:13 PM

Plus Chelsea Physic garden is small but lovely to see - free tours , easy to get to as well .

Weekender Feb 16th, 2016 02:47 AM

janisj:

Yes and it is fab. I am a huge fan of Firmdale hotels with Charlotte Street being another favorite of mine.

Jay_G Feb 16th, 2016 03:48 AM

A few recommendations for pies for you; for a quick lunchtime or early evening nosh, the Newman Arms on Rathbone St. is always good for pies and not too far from your hotel. The menu changes regularly and they have a good selection on an ever changing menu.

If your luck is in, St. John around the corner from Smithfield Market does amazing pies but usually only as a special as their "pie of the day". It's on more often than not, but if you do wend your way out there, anything else you eat there will have been worth the trip.

And also, a classic for when you want an absolutely sure thing, is the steak and kidney pie at Rules. Really can't go wrong with that one.

I've succeeded in making myself hungry thinking about that little lot...

stevetx Feb 16th, 2016 06:37 AM

Thanks for all the replies...it has been very helpful! I'm definitely looking forward to trying some pies soon. : )

Lexma90 - I just looked at the Battersea Pie menu. Looks perfect!

Weekender - I'm very excited about the hotel and looking forward to Scarfes Bar. The cabaret performance sounds fun. I found a map of Ham Yard Village on the hotel website and will definitely stop by.

Northie - Thx for the recommendation! I saw a brief video of Chelsea Physic on the website and I've added it to the itinerary. I wanted to visit the Garden Museum too but noticed it's closed until 2017. Next time!

Jay_G - Thank you for all the great info. I just saw Newman Arms featured on the Fodors '5 Outstanding Food Experiences in London' article. St. John looks good...Hix nearby looks like a good dinner option too.

Jay_G Feb 16th, 2016 08:34 AM

stevtx - I'd disagree that the Newman Arms is 'outstanding' but it's still a good place to grab a pie and a pint.

Any of the Hix restaurants would be a good place for dinner. The Tramshed with its Damian Hirst pickled cow as decoration is good, but if you don't fancy the schlep out east, he also has restaurants in Soho and Mayfair which are very good too.

My favourite (for whatever that's worth) is the Soho outpost where I've eaten a few times and seen Mark Hix himself eating lunch, always with a large group. The bar downstairs is also not to be sniffed at, not overpriced and has a really good atmosphere.

Once again, I've made myself hungry...

latedaytraveler Feb 16th, 2016 02:00 PM

Hi STEVETX,

You mentioned "Mansion House and Spencer House tour."
You know that Mansion House tours start at 2 PM on Tuesdays only. I would suggest getting there a bit early. The queue is on the side street door not the elaborate front portico. Really enjoyed it.

I didn't make it to Spencer House (only open of Sundays) - maybe next time .... sigh...

Two other suggestions if time permits - drop in at the Supreme Court building in Parliament Square and a tour of the British Library - well worth it.

janisj Feb 16th, 2016 02:08 PM

If you are arriving on the 6th - that is the only day Spencer House is open. Tickets are timed and only available on the day first come/first serve. If you are flying in you may not be able to get there before all the day's tickets are gone.

stevetx Feb 16th, 2016 03:05 PM

Latedaytraveler/janisj - I did see the times for Spencer House on Sunday and realize it might be missed on our arrival date. They also host group tours on Monday. I've sent an email inquiry to see if there's a private group we could join as a plan B if we can't make it Sunday. I did something similar on my last trip and was allowed to join a private group to see Marlborough House. I loved the Marlborough tour and the history was very interesting. The Queen was attending a reception the same day but we missed seeing her arrival. Fingers crossed we Spencer House Sunday or Monday.

I just looked at the Supreme Court website and the tour does look interesting. Thank you! : )

stevetx Feb 16th, 2016 03:52 PM

Jay_G - I can see why you're getting hungry talking about the restaurants. I didn't realize there were so many Hix locations until I looked at the list on the website. I wish I could visit each one! I'm trying to figure out when to scamper over to Mark's Bar...Leather chesterfields, ambient lighting, and a list full of historical curiosities. It sounds gorgeous. : )

stevelyon Feb 16th, 2016 10:04 PM

Just an aside - sorry. The best pies are from the north of England. Wigan is the pie capital although Baxenden home to Hollands pies may disagree. In Wigan the vans have signs saying: "No pies kept in this van overnight". The village of Denby Dale produce the worlds biggest pie on an annual basis but that's in Yorkshire so I cant vouch for its quality.

welltraveledbrit Feb 16th, 2016 11:23 PM

If you can't get to Spencer House I'd suggest the nearby Apsley House.
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/v.../apsley-house/

I had no trouble getting into Spencer House on a rainy Sunday in May but it was quite cold and clearly everyone was staying home. My impression is that they open to the public only for tax purposes and to fulfill the agreement made when the Queen lent them several artworks. This is a corporate finance headquarters and today (as in the 18th century) it's designed to awe you with an ostentatious display of wealth and power.

You might enjoy a visit to the old Astor home at Two Temple Place, unusually they're only open in the winter and the current exhibition is on Beauty in Egyptian art. I enjoyed seeing the building and it's not far from the Soane on the Embankment.
http://www.twotempleplace.org

I blogged about it here
http://www.somuchmoretosee.com/2015/...ce-london.html

18 Stafford Terrace is a gem for anyone interested in domestic interiors from the 19th century and I highly recommend it as another alternative. Personally I enjoyed it far more than Spencer House which is almost entirely a recreation. Aastonishingly, 18 Stafford Terace is almost exactly as it was in the late 19th century. It combines wonderfully with the nearby Leighton House the extraordinary Orientalist home of Frederick, Lord Leighton for a great day out in Kensington.

http://www.somuchmoretosee.com/2015/...sambourne.html

The Soane is perhaps my favorite museum in London, they now have an extra tour of his bedroom and siting room at the top of the house where you can see Soane's collection of architectural models. When we went last spring the only offered it on certain days and you needed to book in advance.

Lots more London ideas on my blog, we spent three months in London last spring and I did a lot of running around....
http://www.somuchmoretosee.com/search/label/London

Have fun, we're just back from Vancouver and I have to say we were very impressed with the Rosewood there, the service was excellent.
We loved Highgrove which will be fun for another trip.

Morgana Feb 16th, 2016 11:27 PM

Mince pies are indeed sweet - and usually only eaten around Christmas.
However I suspect the OP means he's only had a pie made of minced beef? Could be wrong here.
Pies tend to have a puff pastry or mashed potato topping. However, if you see one with a suet pastry topping then you've struck oil. I know the old Cheshire Cheese does good pies, but I'm afraid I don't know if this is near you. It's a lovely old building too.
http://www.cheshirecheeselondon.co.uk/
I'd say a beef and ale pie is probably the most popular 'meat' pie found in pubs - very typical pub fare. In this case the beef will be cubed rather than minced and will have had long, slow cooking before encased in pastry. It will often be listed as a 'steak and ale' pie. The gravy will be dark brown. This sort of pie is often served with a pile of chips and some plain veg.
Chicken pies are also popular - usually made of chicken breast and often including leeks or mushrooms. Usually in a creamy sauce - and white wine is also involved.
You are also bound to spot fish pies. These generally tend to be made with white fish but often have prawns in them too, or possibly some chunks of salmon. These generally have mashed potato on top.
Needless to say there are numerous other types - I've just listed the most popular.
And I completely agree with Stevelyon that the best pies are from the north of England.
If ever you are in Whitby (North Yorkshire) then don't miss Humble Pie and Mash where you get a full pie dinner for £5.99. The pictures on the link below will show you what you are missing!
http://humblepie.tccdev.com/menu.html

stevelyon Feb 16th, 2016 11:39 PM

Humble pie looks lovely - although in Whitby it would take a lot to tempt me away from the chippy - and I am rather tempted by the haggis and neeps ... do they put a pie crust around it?

Morgana Feb 17th, 2016 12:01 AM

I've not dared go for the haggis and neeps! And I agree about the local fish and chips.
Lincoln has a wonderful pie shop too called Browns. Even serves rabbit pie. That's something I very rarely see on a menu these days.
http://www.brownspieshop.co.uk/

PatrickLondon Feb 17th, 2016 12:03 AM

>> haggis and neeps ... do they put a pie crust around it?<<

That would be overkill, though no doubt somebody would if you asked them...

And let's not forget hot-water crust "raised pies" that you can eat cold, like pork pies, or veal-and-ham pies.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/ra..._and_ham_63537

Morgana Feb 17th, 2016 12:33 AM

Pork pies are eaten hot up here in Yorkshire!

stevetx Feb 17th, 2016 08:19 AM

Welltraveledbrit - Thank you for all the info! I've been to Apsley and loved it. Two Temple Place has been on my to-do list and I definitely want to visit. This could be a convenient time since it's so close to the Rosewood hotel. I didn't know about 18 Stafford Terrace or Leighton House. It's on my list now in case we have time to fit it in. : ) I've just started reading your blog. The Duck & Waffle has been on my list but haven't been yet. Now I know the best time to go. haha. I just read about the Sky Garden earlier this week and was thinking about it. I enjoyed reading your thoughts on the interior and gardens. I just decided to skip it. : ) I added Kenwood House to my list though. I'm loving your blog!

Morgana - I have a good friend from England that lives in the US (Texas) now. His mother was visiting for Christmas and she made us the traditional mince pies. They were incredibly delicious but I'm anxious to try others (meat, veg, fish, etc.) during this trip. I hope our hotel has a good gym...I'm planning to do my part during British Pie Week and try as many as possible. : )
I had to google haggis and neeps. I'm usually fairly adventurous with food but I might save the haggis for another time. : ) I'll take a double portion of the neeps and tatties though!

annhig Feb 17th, 2016 08:25 AM

Two Temple Place has been on my to-do list and I definitely want to visit>>

Steve, if you're going to be near the Temple, you surely must visit it and the lovely gardens:

https://www.innertemple.org.uk/index...-temple-garden

and as others here have done, you might enjoy lunch in Middle Temple:

http://www.middletemple.org.uk/venue-hire/lunch-in-hall

finish your trip with a tour around the Temple Church:

http://www.templechurch.com

Morgana Feb 17th, 2016 08:53 AM

<<I had to google haggis and neeps>>
Every day's a school day on Fodors!
I don't mean to sound patronising but I think it is great that you are so willing to try typical British food that goes beyond fish and chips.
Pie week is a lot of fun and I really hope you enjoy it!
Do please report back.

PatrickLondon Feb 17th, 2016 09:14 AM

>> I'm usually fairly adventurous with food but I might save the haggis for another time. : )<<

If you're squeamish about offal, don't worry, it's not that much in evidence and is all minced finely anyway (can you be sure what's in every sausage and burger.....?); with all the oatmeal as well, it's more like a peppery stuffing mix.

stevetx Feb 17th, 2016 09:50 AM

Morgana - I love experiencing different cultures and I'm a huge foodie too. I try my best to experience as much as possible when I travel. I always have the best time in London though and I'm sure I'll enjoy my Pie Week adventure. : )

Patrick - The veal and ham pie you mentioned definitely sounds delicious. You also make a good point regarding the offal, sausage and burger. One never knows! : ) Your description certainly sounds better than google...You've almost talked me into trying it. haha.

welltraveledbrit Feb 17th, 2016 10:32 AM

Stevetx- so glad the suggestions were useful and you liked the blog. I was about to add Kenwood House but thought perhaps I was going on too much! I agree one of the nice things about the Soane is walking through the law courts and perhaps taking in Temple church too.

Glad to hear 18 Stafford Terrace and Leighton House were something new. One of the Time Out walking guides has a great walk right around that part of Kensington, or you could take in the nearby Holland Park which is always interesting. I don't know when the Design Museum opens (in the old Commonwealth House but that's in the same area too.

Sounds like you'll have a great trip what even you pick, do let us know what you think of the hotel, I'm quite curious.


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