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Responded favorably to a pass?
Wondering if anyone has ever responded favorably to a pass made at them? I know that most women talk about getting Italian men to leave them alone, but is it safe to accept an offer of an escort, drinks or dinner? Not interested in having casual sex, just someone to walk around and have dinner with.
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By all means, but use your common sense like you would (hopefully) at home too.
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when traveling alone in England and France had many encounters without an unpleasant experience. But being a city girl and hep, I think they can sense that you can take care of yourself.
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"Wondering if anyone has ever responded favorably to a pass made at them?"<BR><BR>Yes, by a cute woman at a restaurant in Paris. My wife's swift kick under the table into my ankle quickly jolted me back to reality. It was a great three seconds, though.
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A friend of mine met a man this way, and come to find out he was a Romanian refugee, so try to decipher the accent first, lol, if you want a genuine Italian.
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I've sure respond favorably if someone offered me a Cote d'Azur museum pass. :)
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In answer to the first question, yes, but not casually. Of course, it was thinly disguised as a dinner offer, which is a common approach.<BR>If you are not interested in "casual sex", and someone makes a pass at you, it's a safe bet that they are probably not too interested in just walking around and having dinner", so I think it's helpful to have a clear understanding of this fact before you respond. seaurchin gave good advice.<BR>
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It sounds like you are talking about Italy -- in general, I think men making passes at tourists are not interested in being an unpaid tour guide. What kind of men in your hometown spend their time making passes as tourists?
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Christina, there are alot of men in Los Angeles area who are all too willing to show the sights to attractive foreign (or local) females.<BR><BR>From my experience there are alot of men in Italy who will do the same.....
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i may get yelled at for the following politically incorrectness but i thought i would toss in my two cents:<BR><BR>1. i would agree with what the above posters have said re: a potential date's real intentions.<BR>2. there are lots of non-italians who prey on foreign women by pretending to be italian. i am not suggesting that italian men are somehow superior to non-italian men; i just want to point out that someone pretending to be what he is not probably does not have good intentions.<BR>3. italian women do not often respond favorably to "passes." as their behavior would constitute the standard of behavior to the average italian man, a woman who does respond favorably MAY be considered, shall we say, loose.<BR>4. the liklihood of number three has been increased by the unfortunate behavior of many american students using italy as a playground.<BR><BR>having said all that, there is always an exception to any rule and the bottom line is that you should go with your gut. public places and daytime meetings are usually pretty safe. or bring a friend.
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Although I do not live in L.A., but do live in Southern California, I would have to disagree with the following comment " there are a LOT of men that live in the L.A. area who are only too willing to show the sights to an attractive female." Most men here have jobs, families, are jogging or hurrying to get somewhere. I don't think most normal men are just dying to be unpaid tour guides for anyone, attractive or not.
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I agree with you lynlor, the married or attached one's are too busy (or hopefully true-blue), but there are plenty of single men out there too. I don't mean that they are hanging out on corners asking to be tour guides ;^)
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LYNLOR, I like your naivete, it is refreshing.
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"I would have to disagree with the following comment " there are a LOT of men that live in the L.A. area who are only too willing to show the sights to an attractive female."<BR><BR>Believe during my single years, my job would have come way behind showing "the sights to an attractive female." I believe there are a lot of single guys who wish they had the opportunity, and I do not believe their jobs would preclude them from the company of a beautiful woman. And I have never met a man who said, "My God young lady, you are so beautiful. I wish I didn't have to go jogging now."
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Oh yeah. I'm an L.A. native.
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With this phrase in the news so much recently, how about a pre-emptive strike? <BR><BR>Ask a Italian guy out for drinks or dinner, but warn him that just because you're paying, he shouldn't assume it means you want to have sex with him. :) <BR>
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Actually, Capo, my friend and I (both women) did invite our daytour guide (man) out for drinks after the tour, we ended up all going to dinner and having a great time. We met him again the next day and spent the day together (off the books).
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Well there ya go. Let's hear it for pre-emptive social strikes!
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I had a drink with my bus driver in Avignon when he was early and a while w for the bus to go. He was very nice, invited me for dinner that night but I declined. Not out of prudishness. I have had drinks sent to me by strangers when younger, and nothing expected, only at a stop by my table to say goodnight. My first time in paris, the most gorgeous guy stopped me but knowing not a word of French, my female <BR>friend translated that I looked so much like his deceased fiance. And so we had drinks. In London, I dined with an Indian waiter. My friend and I played darts in a pub with two salesmen in a chic shop on Sloane Square. We went to a disco with two Nato guys. Never were we intimate with any on these guys. We were young and wanted fun company. confidence is a safety factor in all encounters and listen to your first impression. SAFETY rules.
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maitaitom - that was really funny. I have to agree!
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This is in response to lizzyinflorence.<BR>After reading you post yesterday, I must say that I think that on point #3,regarding italian women, and point #4, about "american students using Italy as a playground" are extremely stereotypical.<BR>I think this is a very individual thing.For example, a few years ago I had a series of Italian roommates, and can say from first hand experience that several of the young female Italian students that stayed in my apartment during their vacations in NYC were very much the same as young americans vacationing in italy, if not even MORE so. They were "out" every night with different guys they met here!! <BR>So I think it is the result of being young and on vacation. I'm sure these same girls probably would be more careful when at home!!!!<BR><BR>You're only young once!!!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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signotrice, you are so right. Another point I want to make. Some woman might go to greece and have an affair with a local fisherman thinking it a romantic thing but back in the states, she wouldn't give the local fisherman a first glance.
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to Cigalechanta- I (blushingly) agree! <BR><BR>And for those who missed these 2 wonderful films the first time around, try to see both! <BR><BR>"Shirley Valentine" A British housewife rediscovers herself in the Greek Islands)<BR><BR>"Swept Away" -NOT the Madonna version, but the FIRST one (1974) directed by Lina Wertmuller (these things can also happen between Italians!) <BR><BR>
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I once accepted an invitation for drinks by a Spaniard while spending a semester abroad. <BR>I was aghast to find out that women in Spain were expected to pay their own way.
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<BR><BR>Apparently I need to move to L A. I make a really great tour guide!
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"Apparently I need to move to L A. I make a really great tour guide!"<BR><BR>Jack, if you do that, may I live vicariously through you? Actually, with a lot of the women in this town, being a great tour guide isn't really the most important aspect of the job. Or at least, that's how I remember it. As my wife tries to remind me, "the grass is always greener..."
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