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Betty Jan 19th, 2003 10:49 AM

Reserving at Hotel des Grandes Ecoles in Paris
 
Hello, all. I am going to Paris in June with seven other people and we want to stay at the Grandes Ecoles. According to their website they will not take reservations for June until Feb. 15. Does anyone know how strict they are about that? Anyone managed to get a reservation before the designated reserve date or, conversely, been told there was no availablilty shortly after the permitted date for reservations? It is my natural tendency to play by the rules and I don't want to irritate the management by trying to skirt them, but I don't want to lose out by waiting too long either, particularly since we will need four rooms and I know this is a very popular place. Would appreciate hearing from anyone who has experience with this matter. Thanks.

elle Jan 19th, 2003 11:02 AM

Betty, I think they hold fast to their rules.<BR><BR>When I found out that we were going to be in Paris in May, I immediately contacted them--I didn't even think to look at the web site to see when they would begin taking reservations for May.<BR><BR>This was around January 10. They responded, saying that I would have to wait until Jan. 15.<BR><BR>Well, I waited until late in the day on January 14, knowing that it was already January 15 in France, and submitted another request. They confirmed almost immediately. <BR><BR>I've been trying to book a room there for the past three years, but we usually don't have enough lead time and they are already booked. The last time we were in Paris, we stayed around the corner at the Hotel Monge and I went over to the Grandes Ecoles to check it out. It looks lovely, but you know how it is when you've built something up in your mind for so long--now I worry about it being a let down.<BR><BR>Other posters here have assured me that it is as lovely as it sounds.<BR><BR>Best of luck in getting the spaces that you need!<BR>v

ita Jan 19th, 2003 01:02 PM

They stick to their rules. It is a very lovely place if you get one of their best rooms.Book the exact day allowed The breakfast is overpriced and very ordinary. I keep fruit, yoghurt and cereal in my room (don't know if that would work in June) and then have coffee and croissant when I leave. Lot of good spots nearby-excellent location you can walk most anywhere, but there is a big hil on the street-no air conditioning.

Betty Jan 19th, 2003 02:10 PM

OK, looks like I'll be e-mailing them at 6:01 pm on Feb. 14 (12:01 am in Paris)! I thank you both, elle and ita, for sharing your experience. Elle, you and I did exactly the same thing. I stayed at the Hotel Monge for a couple of nights last August and checked out the Grandes Ecoles while I was there. Mme. Floch even let me see some of the rooms and I talked with some guests in the courtyard who were very happy with the hotel. I don't think we will be disappointed. Any chance you will still be there in June?

Jan Jan 19th, 2003 03:47 PM

Jan, while tne Hotel des Grandes Ecoles is great, are you sure you want to stay there without air in June? We also stayed at the Hotel Monge in late June and wouldn't have wanted to stay anywhere without air. Just thinking outloud....

elle Jan 19th, 2003 05:28 PM

&quot;Any chance you will still be there in June?&quot;<BR><BR>Don't I wish! <BR><BR>No, we'll just be there for two days before heading south. When we come back to Paris we're staying at Hotel de Banville in the 17e (I like to check out different neighborhoods).<BR><BR>I did notice that you can book up to four rooms at a time on the Grandes Ecoles reservation form---hope that works out for you.

Betty Jan 19th, 2003 06:34 PM

Sorry I will miss you, elle. We, too, will be heading south after a few days in Paris. Hope you have a wonderful trip. Thanks again for the advice.<BR><BR>Jan, I know I am taking a bit of a chance going without A/C but we'll be there in early June. I've been to Paris about a dozen times in the summer and can only remember a couple of occasions when it was uncomfortably hot, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one.

Howard Jan 20th, 2003 12:49 PM

Betty, I'll endorse both the Grandes Ecoles as well as you plan to email them on the evening of the 14th. That's exactly what we did last year four months before our trip. They will confirm within a week. Ask for a room that is NOT in the main building (i.e., the building where the reception area and breakfast room are located. Those are the smallest rooms.<BR>We stayed there two weeks a loved it. The staff is wonderfully helpful, charming and efficient.<BR>

Betty1 Feb 18th, 2003 04:13 AM

Well, folks, I followed my plan and e-mailed the GE just after 6:00 pm last Friday. Got my answer this morning - &quot;sorry, we are full for June 4-7&quot;!! How can that be!? <BR><BR>My back-up hotel is the Hotel Residence Monge but it is not nearly as charming as the GE. Anyone have any other suggestions for the 5th or 6th that would approach the GE in charm and comfort for 115 euros or less? (I am weeping in my morning coffee here!)

Ursula Feb 18th, 2003 04:22 AM

Betty,<BR>Sorry to hear about that bad experience. But, it's always good to have a back-up hotel. <BR>You could try the Hotel du College de France** in the 5th arr. Very quiet location and quite charming. Should be within your price range too and isn't that popular here and there. No A/C though. Bonne chance.<BR><BR>www.hotel-collegedefrance.com

HowardR Feb 18th, 2003 06:01 AM

Betty, I am truly sorry that you couldn't get in, especially after following the &quot;can't miss&quot; advice of emailing on the 14th! I guess a lot of others thought of the same strategy! Or perhaps, a large group booked for those dates.<BR>All I can say is that obviously the Grandes Ecoles is getting very popular. It was just recommended in National Geographic Traveler for the second time in two years!<BR>I can't help with another hotel, but I would recommend the same area, as we found the Latin Quarter to be most convenient for many reasons.

Sher Feb 18th, 2003 06:06 AM

Could you take a chance and call them? Ask them to put you on a cancellation list if they have such a thing.<BR>Maybe speaking with them directly rather than email will get you better results.<BR>If you really would like to stay there, it might be worth a shot.<BR>I don't think you will irritate them if you are polite about your inquiry.<BR>

Ursula Feb 18th, 2003 06:09 AM

<BR>Well, just thinking of this:<BR>1) The French Open is on during that period (May 27-June 9)<BR>2) Your date coincides more or less with the long weekend over here (Whitsuntide)<BR><BR>They might give longer stays a priority. Just an idea. Not correct, but might be a fact.<BR>

HowardR Feb 18th, 2003 06:31 AM

Ursala may have hit on to the cause of your disappointment. Sher has made a good suggestion. A further suggestion: The manager/concierge's name is Marie. Ask for her. She's a sweetheart. She works Monday thru Friday.

elle Feb 18th, 2003 12:54 PM

Betty, I am so disappointed for you!<BR><BR>In addition to the other reasons suggested, perhaps it was because you needed quite a few rooms?<BR><BR>Just a thought.

kismetchimera Feb 18th, 2003 01:28 PM

I have also tried to make a reservation for july, but they told me that I need to wait until march 15.. which is still a long way to go for someting that is not certain.. therefore I have changed my mind and made a reservation for the Bonaparte, according to fodors it has air, large rooms, small frigidaire,safe and close to a Monoprix to buy wine, cheese, fruits etc..also the location is walking distance to my favourite's sites ...maybe someday I will try the Grandes Ecoles...

Christina Feb 18th, 2003 01:46 PM

That's too bad, I always wonder about that kind of thing myself, also, as similar things have happened to me. It may be because you want so many rooms, also, I imagine that's part of it, but still doesn't make sense. <BR><BR>I think College de France is a good idea. A few others in the Latin Quarter that I believe are you budget (often lower, actually) and might have a little more charm than the Monge are Hotel l'Esperance on rue Pascal and Hotel Saint Jacques (on rue des Ecoles). They are both 2 stars but not too basic for that level. I know the Esperance is also recommended often in guidebooks, articles, etc as being charming.<BR><BR>www.hotel-saintjacques.com<BR>www.hoteldelesperance.fr<BR><B R>The St-Jacques is the one in that Cary Grant/Hepburn movie, Charade, so that might be kind of fun. It is also on www.france-hotel-guide.com with a nice presentation. It is near the Maubert metro whereas l'Esperance is down in the bottom of the quarter. I think you can sometimes get rooms in the Hotel Claude Bernard for around that rate, but it's a 3* and often more than the others (sure it would be in June, although it does have AC now, from what I've read). It's right near the Saint-Jacques. <BR><BR>

HowardR Feb 18th, 2003 02:47 PM

To: Kismetchimera<BR>I might suggest you follow our actions in booking a hotel. The Grandes Ecoles was our first choice, and we did the same as you and tried to book early. When I found out its policy (i.e., 3 or 4 months ahead), I then booked our second choice to make sure we had something. When the booking date for the Grandes Ecoles rolled around, I emailed out reservation. When I got the confirmation, simply cancelled the other one.

Betty1 Feb 18th, 2003 06:34 PM

Thanks to all of you for your sympathy and your suggestions. The more I think about this, the more I don't like it. As I see it there are four possibilities: 1) They received dozens of requests on Feb. 15 and rather than assigning rooms on a first come first served basis, they chose certain ones, perhaps based, as someone suggested above, on length of stay.(Understandable, perhaps.) 2) They accepted a bunch of reservations before Feb. 15 contrary to their own rules. 3) Lots of people made reservations in Jan. for stays beginning in May but carrying over into my dates in June. (I sorta doubt this one.) or 4) They didn't want to take a &quot;group&quot; reservation. (I only asked for 4 rooms.)If that is the case, they should have said so. I ran into this at a few other places last August when I was asking about places to stay this June.<BR><BR>I am going to go ahead and make reservations somewhere else (hope I'm not too late). I think I will try the Hotel du College de France, the Hotel St. Jacques, the Hotel Monge and maybe Regent's Hotel in the 6th. But I am also tempted to try an experiment to test theory # 4, that is, to have each couple in my group try to make a reservation at HGE seperately and see if they are also turned down. If they are accepted I could just deduct that amount from what they owe. But we could end up with 2-6 of us in one hotel (HGE) and the rest somewhere else. Do you think it's worth a try? Or should I just forget it and go with another hotel? This has put such a bad taste in my mouth I'm not even sure I want to stay there anymore.

francophile03 Feb 18th, 2003 07:12 PM

Choice #2 is highly unlikely. I tried to make reservations way in advance and could not do so and they sent an apologetic email; they have a strict schedule that they follow. When the time opened up for me they emailed me again to ask if I was still interested in making a reservation. I think they go by a first come, first served basis. <BR>It's best to reserve at another hotel. You can try again but it's no guarantee. There are other hotels that are very nice and not too expensive. Have you heard of Hotel Select near the Sorbonne or the Abbatial St. Germain? They're both in the 5th district also.


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