It's any 4 days, midnight to midnight unlimited travel over a two-month period. France and Swiss are one country for pass purposes - only one day on a pass to go from say, Paris to Lausanne. You may consider just a Swiss Pass and then do the very cheap advance purchase discounted Paris-Geneva fares, which i think Raileurope (or BETS) has for around $45 book early can be hard to get- or on ww.sncf.com French rail site - Swiss pass much more valuable once in Switzerland than France-Switzerland, which is treated like a Eurailpass in Switzerland - not valid on trains in Jungfrau area, Glacier Express, etc. Or the two-country pass may be good if you're just take Swiss Federal train lines, the bulk of them as it would cover them all. You may get more travel days at less cost with point-point and Swiss Pass - and Swiss Pass also gives you 50% off everything that moves in Switzerland - all trains, boats, buses, trams, gondolas, etc. in the overall one-month validity period of a flexipass and you need not use a day of travel to get them - thus a 3-day Swiss Flexi out of a one-month period could be great for you, along with the discounted PREM fare Paris-Geneva. The Swiss pass would be well over $100 cheaper than the Swiss-France pass and you can buy it in 2nd class whereas France-Switz pass only comes in first class.

Thank you for your info PalQ. I will look into a point to point ticket when I get closer to the date (July), as it appears you cannot book outside of 2 months ahead. When I checked, a 4 day 1st class Fr/Swiss pass is going to cost around $280 US per person but does give some of the discounts that the Swiss pass has. So, before I buy the passes I will look into both options. It is a lot to figure out since I have never before used the trains and have been searching everything so that when I book the passes I will be well-informed of all my options. What is the difference between SNCF and TGV? The SNCF is in french only and I am not too good at reading French...The SNCF will direct me to the TGV in English though. All these rail routes take studying to figure out! Thanks for your help.

Hi. Has anyone mentioned that twice a day there's a direct TGV from Paris to Lausanne in just under 4 hours? You'd still have the pretty lakeside ride when you change to the local to Montreux. Sign me Green w/Envy, J.

Oh, I see that that's the one that goes through Vallorbe. Still Gw/E, J.

Hi again --

Just a note about my camera, which is a 5 megapixel Canon. I think it's the A95 or something. If I were buying a digital today, I think I would buy one that's simpler to use!

BTW, SNCF is simply the French rail company, while TGV is the fast train run by SNCF.

You're going to have a lot of fun!

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