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May 4th, 2006, 07:04 AM
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------exactly morgan.. forgot to put the U.S country code ( 1) in there.! so sorry.

i answer to the french chip question.
one does not pay incoming calls when using a mobile phone in europe in the country the mobile chip is from.-----

No biggie! Is easy to forget You are right that incoming calls are free in France. However there is a nuance to that. It only applies to calls coming from within France. If a call comes from the US you are charged by the minute. I found that out the hardway when I got my bill. I think its about 1 euro / min but I am not sure. Its not cheap. Am talking about French Sim cards btw , dont know anything about german ones.
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May 4th, 2006, 07:07 AM
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well.. that doesn't measure up to what happens in spain.
you are not charged to receive calls from ANYWHERE if you are in spain, having bought the sims card in spain.

(unless this has changed recently).

i am going to look into this right now because that just takes away the only GOOD thing aobut european mobiles.

hmmmmmmmm

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May 4th, 2006, 07:07 AM
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Frech mobile phone companies don't charge for incoming calls, no matter where in the world the call originates
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May 4th, 2006, 07:09 AM
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on the own network that is.
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May 4th, 2006, 09:45 AM
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oh my aching head.

Trying my best to follow along. To get a free incoming call on a French SIM, you have to be in France. Seems easy now.I am going to suggest her family call her instead of her calling out once she gets to France and buys her SIM. They will dial O11 33 6 XX XX XX XX. Of course she will need to give them the number.

I don't think topping that German SIM will do her any good, as incoming AND outgoing calls were very pricey. She will be able to use her SIM to make a few minutes of calls if needed, but at least incoming is free.


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May 4th, 2006, 09:51 AM
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Good decision!
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May 4th, 2006, 10:11 AM
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Just to clarify this once and for all...

When you buy a prepaid country specific sim package throughout most of the world (USA and Canada excepted) basically you do not pay on your minutes to receive calls from anywhere whether in country or not....however if you check long distance rates closely you will find that calls to mobile lines have a surcharge...example long distance company x may advertise calls from the US to France are 8/minute but either on a separate line or in fine print it will note that calls to French mobile lines are 34/minute...part of that surcharge goes to the mobile carrier, how the accounting works I haven't the foggiest idea. When you leave the country where the sim carrier is located, you are roaming and will pay to receive as well as make calls except in limited circumstances as we tried to explain with vodafone passport.

There are also international sims such as united mobile which consider all of Europe west of Russia to be non roaming turf...that is in any of these locations you get the free reception of calls but the caller has to pay for a call from wherever to a Liechtenstein mobile (doesn't matter where you are it is still to a Liechtenstein mobile) and with the success of united mobile, many telehone cmopanies to protect their roaming revenue have either been trying to block calls to Liechtenstein mobiles or have made the price for calls ridiculously high (do I hear anti trust?)..

As far as France is concerned, I have found for the most part their prices for mobile phone service are very high, even for local calls. Virgin Mobile France has begun a new service that has moderated the charges for calls somewhat and is probably the most hassle free carrier in France; although French mobile have limited shelf lifes and they take away your credit after 60 days or 90 days depending on the size of your top up. You can retain the number for receiving calls for an additional 6 months and a recharge anytime within that period extends the validity of the card...also calls on French mobiles to North America are very expensive up around €1/minute...however the way around this is to buy a long distance card from a tabac with local French access numbers....you then pay to access the ld network at French domestic rates and then pay the ld charge on the ld card which are incredibly cheap. Of course, the French networks are trying to block access to these numbers on their mobile networks (surprise surprise surprise)..

Then there's callback services such as callbackworld which was described earlier...you make a triggering call which is not completed, you get a call back which means you are receiving and don't pay the local carrier and you dial the number and pay pretty cheap rates. Surprise, surprise, the local networks are trying to block access to this also.

Lots of choices and you can read about the specific networks by going to the web site www.prepaidgsm.net

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May 4th, 2006, 10:13 AM
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If are you in France you may only receive inbound calls from within france for free. Calls originating from other countries are NOT free. I know this for a fact. I live in Paris and have Orange cell service. I am charged for called that I receive from the US.
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May 4th, 2006, 10:39 AM
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You shouldn't use you UK or Swiss orange card in France, bad idea. Incoming calls on French Orange cards are free no matter where the call originates.

http://www.orange.fr/images/ge/high/..._tarifaire.pdf
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May 4th, 2006, 12:27 PM
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MorganB...

I will say this to you as gently as possible...

You are not correct....I have never been charged for a call on Orange FR which I have received in France whether it originated from within or outside of France.

In this case, period, end of discussion.
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May 5th, 2006, 05:15 AM
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Sounds good to me. I must have misread my bill. Thanks for the info.
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