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eileenferrier Sep 16th, 2005 04:52 PM

Question for well-traveled Italy lovers:
 
I have a few questions:

1) Is Sienna worth staying over night?

2) Is Livorno worth the trip at all?

3) should I go to Venice or Milan?

I like architecture and just walking around, if that is a deciding factor between swaying one way instead of the other.

Thanks!

artlover Sep 16th, 2005 04:57 PM

1) Siena is worth staying for much more than just overnight. My daughter has been there for 6 months and was crying on the phone 'cause she has to leave next week!

2) Never been there, so can't say.

3) Easy--Venice in a heartbeat.


cls2paris Sep 16th, 2005 04:57 PM

I can help with the first one - YES! I think there is enough to see to take up more than one day. Plus it is fun to sit outside on the il Campo sipping a glass of wine at the end of the day and watching the people go by.

Simone1 Sep 16th, 2005 05:31 PM

I agree. Siena is worth at least a day or two if you are in a rush.

I have never been to Livorno.

Another vote for Venice, hands down. I would stretch my stay in Venice to several days. Milan is interesting for a day or so, but I wouldn’t do it if I were in a rush.

Grinisa Sep 16th, 2005 06:09 PM

Yes, stay a night or two in Siena. I've been to Livorno a few times, but mainly to eat. There isn't a lot to see and if time is short, I'd skip it. Venice most definitely.

LoveItaly Sep 16th, 2005 08:44 PM

Hi eileenferrier, if you click on your name you will see your other post and the answer Fabio gave you regarding Livorno.

tuscanlifeedit Sep 16th, 2005 08:57 PM

Hi Eileen

I searched for Fabio's response, out of curiousity, but could not find it.

Siena is fun and interesting. An overnight stay would not leave you feeling you had spent too much time there. Or so I think.

I would not make a special trip to Livorno. Just my opinion.

And I would choose Venice over Milan.

LoveItaly Sep 16th, 2005 09:03 PM

Hi Tuscanlifeedit. eileen has another thread posted entitled "First Timer Here, Where Do I Start". Fabio gave her information regarding Livorno on that thread. If you click on eileenferrier's name you will see the other thread and Fabio's information.

isabel Sep 17th, 2005 03:58 AM

1) Siena would be great to spend the night in, but if for some reason doing it as a day trip made more sense for you, than that would be fine too. I would have liked to spend the night, but didn't feel rushed or like I didn't really see it, and I was there as a day trip from Florence.

2) Don't know

3) Venice, Venice, Venice

eileenferrier Sep 17th, 2005 05:21 AM

Thank you all for your replies. I did get some advice from one person (Fabio, I think his/her name was), but I wanted the persepective of the masses instead of just going off of one person. If I were to go from the advice of the first person whom I told I was traveling to Italy, I would have cancelled my plans because she said the people were rude and that it was overpriced. So much for her advice! :)

I see now that Livorno doesn't have much to offer, but at the time I was researching it all that stuck in my mind was that it was near the water and I thought it would be gorgeous.

Thanks for your time!

Byrd Sep 17th, 2005 05:22 AM

We love Siena. We found it not only an interesting city for sightseeing, shopping, and eating, but also a convenient base for daytrips.

And, of course, Venice!

Byrd

metellus Sep 17th, 2005 05:42 AM

"3) should I go to Venice or Milan?"

I doubbt that even 1 person 500 would pick Milan over Venice, which not only the best place in Italy but possibly all of Europe.

eileenferrier Sep 17th, 2005 05:51 AM

You really think Venice is the best place to visit in all of Europe? I think I"m drastically underestimating it b/c we had all but wiped it off our itineraries. Hmm, worth another thought.

Eloise Sep 17th, 2005 05:56 AM

I would not go so far as to say that Venice is "the best place in all of Europe," but it is a unique and uniquely beautiful city with a great tradition of art and architecture. I would definitely not strike it from a trip to Italy. Venice is also, it must be said in all honesty, heavily touristed.

suec1 Sep 17th, 2005 06:09 AM

"heavily touristed"?! maybe because it could possibly be "the best place in Europe"! If you stay in a hotel away from the main part of the city you can enjoy the pleasures of Venice without the tourist throngs tho you will have to put up with them to visit St. Marks, Doges Palace etc. But to me Venice is so much more than the big sites - for someone who enjoys architecture and just walking around, by all means put several days in Venice on your trip.

DejaVu Sep 17th, 2005 06:53 AM

I agree, Venice has a lot of tourists, but they tend to congregate in the same places. You don't have to wander far to get away from them.

Absolutely Venice over Milan. Venice is one of those places that you think you know all about from movies, tv, etc, and you think you know how you'll react to it, but when you actually walk out of the train station and see for yourself, all those preconceived notions just fly away. You can't help but be dazzled.

Fabio Sep 17th, 2005 02:15 PM



Hi ! I am here !!

LoveItaly: nice to meet you over here after your support to me on the Alaska forum !!

Livorno is nicely located on the coast but has no tourist attractions therefore it is not worth. I thoght you had some friends or relatives to visit, otherwise I would not go there.

Having much more time, Isola d'Elba (Livorno province)is really worth in summer but also expensive !

LoveItaly Sep 17th, 2005 02:24 PM

Hello Fabio!!! I have a good friend named Frabrizio, but we often call him Fabio for short. I think you are a wealth of information for people visiting Italy.

You are from Italy I presume? Do you live in Italy now or do you live in the US?

Fabio, do you know why the English and also until recently the Americans called Livorno "Leghorn"? I have always wondered about that. Best wishes to you.

Catbert Sep 17th, 2005 02:26 PM

OK, I'll pick Milano. It's Italy in all its glory. Everyone should see Venice in their lifetime, but you can't know Italy without exploring all the faces of Milano. And Siena? Absolutely!

Fabio Sep 17th, 2005 02:26 PM


eileenferrier

I skipped your other 2 points but I totally agree with the others:

1) well worth more than one night

3)Venice, no doubts !! It is unique in the world !! Do the walk from train station Santa Lucia to Piazza San Marco (arrows directions are marked on the walls) and then come back by ferry (vaporetto).
I would do it 10 times a day !! It is fantastic !!

Go to Murano to see how they work the famous glass artworks !!


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